| City % | Hwy % | EB AWD | Tremor | % diff | MPG diff | $/yr (@15K $4) | $/yr (@10K $3.50) | 5 yr est |
100 | 0 | 22 | 20 | -9% | -2 | $ (273) | $ (159) | $ (1,080) |
90 | 10 | 22.7 | 20.4 | -10% | -2.3 | $ (298) | $ (174) | $ (1,180) |
80 | 20 | 23.4 | 20.8 | -11% | -2.6 | $ (321) | $ (187) | $ (1,269) |
70 | 30 | 24.1 | 21.2 | -12% | -2.9 | $ (341) | $ (199) | $ (1,348) |
60 | 40 | 24.8 | 21.6 | -13% | -3.2 | $ (358) | $ (209) | $ (1,419) |
55 | 45 | 25.2 | 21.80 | -13% | -3.35 | $ (367) | $ (214) | $ (1,451) |
50 | 50 | 25.5 | 22 | -14% | -3.5 | $ (374) | $ (218) | $ (1,482) |
40 | 60 | 26.2 | 22.4 | -15% | -3.8 | $ (388) | $ (227) | $ (1,538) |
30 | 70 | 26.9 | 22.8 | -15% | -4.1 | $ (401) | $ (234) | $ (1,588) |
20 | 80 | 27.6 | 23.2 | -16% | -4.4 | $ (412) | $ (241) | $ (1,632) |
10 | 90 | 28.3 | 23.6 | -17% | -4.7 | $ (422) | $ (246) | $ (1,671) |
0 | 100 | 29 | 24 | -17% | -5 | $ (431) | $ (251) | $ (1,706) |
I understand your position, and appreciate the comparison, but I’d like to hear what owners are experiencing with their new trucks.
K. but you're going to be waiting for a while before a critical mass of them gets to members and they have the chance to put significant miles on them. Not to mention it's winter now and the cold weather, dense air, and winter blends are going to impact this "empirical analysis." Come back in 6 months to a year and you'll have a decent group of users who've broken in their trucks and actually have enough miles to make a decent estimate. Still, most will have completely different driving habits than you, will have made other modifications, will be filling up with different octanes, etc. Further, half of those will be citing the dashboard numbers (rather than multi-tank averages) introducing more error. In the end, you can probably take all of the inputs you get, average them, and they'll probably come out within a couple MPGs of the EPA estimates.
I’m aware it’s early and anecdotal information, but if people are eking out 22 mpg or less on the highway, I’d rather know now and make a more informed decision.K. but you're going to be waiting for a while before a critical mass of them gets to members and they have the chance to put significant miles on them. Not to mention it's winter now and the cold weather, dense air, and winter blends are going to impact this "empirical analysis." Come back in 6 months to a year and you'll have a decent group of users who've broken in their trucks and actually have enough miles to make a decent estimate. Still, most will have completely different driving habits than you, will have made other modifications, will be filling up with different octanes, etc. Further, half of those will be citing the dashboard numbers (rather than multi-tank averages) introducing more error. In the end, you can probably take all of the inputs you get, average them, and they'll probably come out within a couple MPGs of the EPA estimates.
On the other hand, you'll likely get a few early optimistic posters getting 20-30% over the rated mileage in time to make your decision, and you'll have some nice confirmation bias to tell you want you really want to hear...buy the tremor.
You're posting here with theoretical info when OP is pretty clearly asking for real world experience. I have theorized that Tremor owners will see much better highway mileage figures considering I am running tires heavier than the Wildpeaks on my AWD Maverick and I routinely get 35+ mpg on the highway. This is my most recent trip to see family and I have seen better mileage than 35.2 average on the same trip in the summer:K. but you're going to be waiting for a while before a critical mass of them gets to members and they have the chance to put significant miles on them. Not to mention it's winter now and the cold weather, dense air, and winter blends are going to impact this "empirical analysis." Come back in 6 months to a year and you'll have a decent group of users who've broken in their trucks and actually have enough miles to make a decent estimate. Still, most will have completely different driving habits than you, will have made other modifications, will be filling up with different octanes, etc. Further, half of those will be citing the dashboard numbers (rather than multi-tank averages) introducing more error. In the end, you can probably take all of the inputs you get, average them, and they'll probably come out within a couple MPGs of the EPA estimates.
On the other hand, you'll likely get a few early optimistic posters getting 20-30% over the rated mileage in time to make your decision, and you'll have some nice confirmation bias to tell you want you really want to hear...buy the tremor.
Are you sure the gearing is the same? Does the different AWD system make a difference? Is there more of a parasitic drag with beefier half shafts and the clutch diffs in the back? I seriously doubt that that Ford would screw itself and rate the MPG's lower if that wasn't the case. I'd love for that to be the case, because I'm not crazy about the new numbers either, but...You're posting here with theoretical info when OP is pretty clearly asking for real world experience. I have theorized that Tremor owners will see much better highway mileage figures considering I am running tires heavier than the Wildpeaks on my AWD Maverick and I routinely get 35+ mpg on the highway. This is my most recent trip to see family and I have seen better mileage than 35.2 average on the same trip in the summer:
The Tremor EPA figures are estimates and I have a hard time believing that anything on the Tremor is going to drastically change highway MPG figures considering that although it probably has a heavier curb weight than my XL by at least 100 pounds, the tires are lighter and rotational mass can easily add the equivalent of significantly more static weight. The tremor has the same body style, gearing and so on.
You posted data based on EPA estimates, is that really data after all or is it just an analysis of.......estimates? Also, OP asked for real world results. I posted a photo of real world results which can be authenticated by analyzing the data in my photo. Someone here already posted about their experience with their Tremor and it was more along the lines of what I see in my AWD Ecoboost non Tremor.
Seems like there would also be opportYou're posting here with theoretical info when OP is pretty clearly asking for real world experience. I have theorized that Tremor owners will see much better highway mileage figures considering I am running tires heavier than the Wildpeaks on my AWD Maverick and I routinely get 35+ mpg on the highway. This is my most recent trip to see family and I have seen better mileage than 35.2 average on the same trip in the summer:
The Tremor EPA figures are estimates and I have a hard time believing that anything on the Tremor is going to drastically change highway MPG figures considering that although it probably has a heavier curb weight than my XL by at least 100 pounds, the tires are lighter and rotational mass can easily add the equivalent of significantly more static weight. The tremor has the same body style, gearing and so on.
All good, I like to hear multiple points of view. Maybe we’ll catch the eye of a lucky Tremor owner sooner or later, though!
Gearing is exactly the same as my 4K tow and the RDU operates exactly the same, it just has an added clutch pack for locking both rear wheels.
The guys from TexasTruck youtube gave their real world MPG's during their test.Seems like there would also be opport
All good, I like to hear multiple points of view. Maybe we’ll catch the eye of a lucky Tremor owner sooner or later, though!
EPA estimates are based on five controlled and standardized fuel consumption tests. OP asked for real world tremor results even if you hypothesize there's no difference, the actual data suggests otherwise.
I fully understand how EPA ratings work, to the point that I also understand that the EPA doesn't actually test the vast majority of new vehicles (Only about 15% are actually tested by the EPA). Manufacturers test them and the EPA takes their word and sometimes winds up testing a specific vehicle and can and will challenge the manufacturer. Also, most manufacturers test pre-production units for EPA ratings and who knows why or how Ford came up with the Tremor estimates especially if it was a pre-production unit.
