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Same here: no issues, using 87 octane, but only have driven less than 3000 miles ... hope it stays issue free forever :cool:
I have used 87 octane since day 1, currently 12000 miles and see no need to go any higher! The only thing I have noticed is a slight hesitation when you punch it but this truck is amazingly quick!!
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I hate spending money. I am cheapish as hell. OK, got that out of the way right off. :ROFLMAO:

Prolly the one thing and really only thing that has bugged me about my Maverick has been the low RPM vibration we have noticed with the truck. Cruising around 30 or so there are times the RPM will drop to around 1200 or so and a slight vibration and or engine lugging will be evident. Even Consumer Reports mentioned it in one of their reviews of the 2.0 EcoBoost so not just me.

"The nonhybrid Maverick pickup trucks use an optional 250-hp turbo four-cylinder mated to an eight-speed automatic, with front- or all-wheel drive. This powertrain gives robust acceleration, can tow up to 4,000 pounds, and gets 23 mpg overall, but its tendency to lug along at low revs sends annoying vibrations into the cabin.

Someone here mentioned using a higher octane gas to help alleviate the situation, so I waited until the low fuel light came on an filled the truck with 93 octane gas. Ouch!! $1.40 more a gallon for that over 87. Expensive fill up, but will it be worth it or did I just blow 20 bucks extra for gas I do not need?

After burning through 3/4 of a tank I am very pleased with the results. The so called vibration is, I would say, 90% gone if not more. Power has increased noticeably. Still monitoring gas mileage but I would guess that will increase a bit too.

Next tankful, 91 Octane to see if I get similar results and save 40 cents a gallon as well. Given how little I drive, even the 93 octane will be worth the extra money given the results I have seen so far.
Sounds to me like it's something in the ECU tuning. I would think most modern cars would be able to detect the octane and maybe adjust the timing to adjust, but I'm pretty new to the whole Maverick scene.... My VW has a turbo and I could put anything from 87 on up in it but, not that I noticed, it apparently will make less power with lower octane as it dials back on the ignition timing.
 

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Given I am going almost a month between tanks, I might put 93 in the next one and see if there is any difference.
 

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Sport mode will solve your issue. Start truck, dial up D, press mode switch 5 times, you are golden and problem solved. Yes, you must do each time you start vehicle. If highway cruising, 2 button pushes get ya back to normal drive mode and lower rpm with better fuel economy.
Sport mode is quite peppy!
 

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Remember, you only get your full power on 91 AND WOT.

I've never been one to drive around flooring it all the time, so even when I had a 1.8T VW, I didn't see any need for more expensive octane. I don't live my life a 1/4 mile at a time.
I currently have a 2016 VW golf with the 1.8T and I've been thinking about getting a Maverick ( deciding between hybrid and EB). . I was wondering how much different the Ford 4 cylinder feels. Thanks
 

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Sounds to me like it's something in the ECU tuning. I would think most modern cars would be able to detect the octane and maybe adjust the timing to adjust, but I'm pretty new to the whole Maverick scene.... My VW has a turbo and I could put anything from 87 on up in it but, not that I noticed, it apparently will make less power with lower octane as it dials back on the ignition timing.
no, it was previously commented by @yamahaSHO - who is a tuner and would certainly know - that it's the transmission.

ecoboost owners have some options. (this exact problem isn't found in the hybrid.)
1. live with any minor lugging or drive in sport mode.

2. ask your Ford dealer to restart the transmission adaptive learning process as part of your next scheduled maintenance. if you're lucky and/or they're decent, they might not charge you for this. I believe there is a crazy multi-step procedure to initiate the re-learning without using the dealership's tools for the 10 speed, I am not sure if it also applies to the 8F35.

3. get a tune that specifically addresses the transmission shifting. not all of them do, in fact interceptors like JB4 or RaceChip can't do it. it has to be a reflash device. here are Cobb Tuning's notes on their off-the-shelf transmission tune:
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  • Shift Points
    • Upshift schedules revised for updated power band, more predictive shifting. Will hold lower gears for longer than OEM+.
    • Downshift schedules revised for updated power band, more reactive downshifts. Will downshift sooner than OEM+.
  • Torque Converter
    • Altered TCC unlock and slip schedules for more responsive power delivery
  • Shift Firmness
    • Moderately increased during high power/RPM shifts in Normal and Sport mode
  • Upshift Backout
    • upshift inhibit (zero Accelerator pedal position gear-holding) in ‘Sport’ mode following high-power acceleration and throttle backout has been disabled. Stock behavior would inhibit upshift until pedal position is re-applied above ~10%.
  • Torque Limits
    • Increased torque limits for more aggressive launches and acceleration

Full details are here: https://www.cobbtuning.com/products...-maverick-bronco-sport-badlands-2-0l-ecoboost
 

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I'm not claiming to know, but it seems to me like it's a little weird that the octane affects the transmission shifting unless the engine making less power on lower octane affects the transmission.
 

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I hate spending money. I am cheapish as hell. OK, got that out of the way right off. :ROFLMAO:

Prolly the one thing and really only thing that has bugged me about my Maverick has been the low RPM vibration we have noticed with the truck. Cruising around 30 or so there are times the RPM will drop to around 1200 or so and a slight vibration and or engine lugging will be evident. Even Consumer Reports mentioned it in one of their reviews of the 2.0 EcoBoost so not just me.

"The nonhybrid Maverick pickup trucks use an optional 250-hp turbo four-cylinder mated to an eight-speed automatic, with front- or all-wheel drive. This powertrain gives robust acceleration, can tow up to 4,000 pounds, and gets 23 mpg overall, but its tendency to lug along at low revs sends annoying vibrations into the cabin.

Someone here mentioned using a higher octane gas to help alleviate the situation, so I waited until the low fuel light came on an filled the truck with 93 octane gas. Ouch!! $1.40 more a gallon for that over 87. Expensive fill up, but will it be worth it or did I just blow 20 bucks extra for gas I do not need?

After burning through 3/4 of a tank I am very pleased with the results. The so called vibration is, I would say, 90% gone if not more. Power has increased noticeably. Still monitoring gas mileage but I would guess that will increase a bit too.

Next tankful, 91 Octane to see if I get similar results and save 40 cents a gallon as well. Given how little I drive, even the 93 octane will be worth the extra money given the results I have seen so far.
I quit reading at "prolly."
 

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no, it was previously commented by @yamahaSHO - who is a tuner and would certainly know - that it's the transmission.

ecoboost owners have some options. (this exact problem isn't found in the hybrid.)
1. live with any minor lugging or drive in sport mode.

2. ask your Ford dealer to restart the transmission adaptive learning process as part of your next scheduled maintenance. if you're lucky and/or they're decent, they might not charge you for this. I believe there is a crazy multi-step procedure to initiate the re-learning without using the dealership's tools for the 10 speed, I am not sure if it also applies to the 8F35.

3. get a tune that specifically addresses the transmission shifting. not all of them do, in fact interceptors like JB4 or RaceChip can't do it. it has to be a reflash device. here are Cobb Tuning's notes on their off-the-shelf transmission tune:



Full details are here: https://www.cobbtuning.com/products...-maverick-bronco-sport-badlands-2-0l-ecoboost
This is correct but the Octane jump and or tuning can help eliminate it. It lugs cause the trans is in low rpm add power and or trq. It can pull in that tough spot without having the feeling. Its just to low in the rpm for any power to be made with the current ecu tuning. Especially pulling timing and boost on 87.
 

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This is correct but the Octane jump and or tuning can help eliminate it. It lugs cause the trans is in low rpm add power and or trq. It can pull in that tough spot without having the feeling. Its just to low in the rpm for any power to be made with the current ecu tuning. Especially pulling timing and boost on 87.
I agree, it's all related. the knock octane monitor affects load, torque target, boost, and ignition timing.

load matters a lot to the transmission. (y)
 
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I was criticized for stating this in another thread but I'll say it again.

I don't care if you put rabbit piss, orange juice, or straight-up sugar in your truck's gas tank. I choose to use 93. You do what you guys want to do.

When I picked it up from the dealer, they graciously included a full tank of (87) gas. On the way home, it buzzed and lugged real bad around 1100-1400 RPMs and once I filled it up with 93, that all went away. It seemed to run smoother and I like the extra power that I get. You may think I'm totally crazy and insane but it's my choice. Also, even in Ford's specs sheet, it says the power claims are based on using 93. So I do.
 

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I'm not claiming to know, but it seems to me like it's a little weird that the octane affects the transmission shifting unless the engine making less power on lower octane affects the transmission.
It’s doesn’t do anything with the trans. But picture a manual and putting it in 5th gear where it’s lugging the motor. Then apply throttle. Now you can overcome that with boost and timing to some extent but that requires Oct to maximize it
 
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It’s doesn’t do anything with the trans. But picture a manual and putting it in 5th gear where it’s lugging the motor. Then apply throttle. Now you can overcome that with boost and timing to some extent but that requires Oct to maximize it
That's what I was thinking. I was replying to the other guy but I think when I hit the quote button that came out a little fuzzy. He was responding to me when I said it must affect the engine, timing and power and colini said:
"no, it was previously commented by @yamahaSHO - who is a tuner and would certainly know - that it's the transmission."
So yes my assumption was that the lower octane to fix the power which then affects the shifting. You may be able to adjust it shifting mapping in the transmission to work around it I guess. Seems to me would be simpler to just put 91 or better in it
 
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I was criticized for stating this in another thread but I'll say it again.

I don't care if you put rabbit piss, orange juice, or straight-up sugar in your truck's gas tank. I choose to use 93. You do what you guys want to do.

When I picked it up from the dealer, they graciously included a full tank of (87) gas. On the way home, it buzzed and lugged real bad around 1100-1400 RPMs and once I filled it up with 93, that all went away. It seemed to run smoother and I like the extra power that I get. You may think I'm totally crazy and insane but it's my choice. Also, even in Ford's specs sheet, it says the power claims are based on using 93. So I do.
Yep, that is something it seems some of us are experiencing and some not so much. I agree, run with what you brung. As for me, next tankful will be 91 as it seems these 2.0's are mapped for that and compare with the previous tankful of 93 and go from there. (y)
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