James

Member
First Name
James
Joined
Jun 3, 2021
Messages
17
Reaction score
9
Location
Pennsylvania , USA
Vehicle(s)
2012 Ford Escape
Is the 2.5 engine referred to as the "naturally aspirated" engine? Premium fuel burns slower than regular, is that correct? Thanks for your reply.
That may be the same engine in my 2012 Ford Escape, it's a 4 cylinder with front wheel drive.
 

kingranchero

Active member
Joined
Apr 1, 2021
Messages
38
Reaction score
85
Location
Dearborn
Website
www.ford.com
Vehicle(s)
2023 Ford Maverick
Is the 2.5 engine referred to as the "naturally aspirated" engine? Premium fuel burns slower than regular, is that correct? Thanks for your reply.
Correct, 2.5L is naturally aspirated. It does not require premium fuel. Premium has better resistance to knock, so it is recommended for high horsepower, turbocharged, and high compression engines.
 

Keynotes13

Well-known member
First Name
Mathew
Joined
Jan 31, 2021
Messages
49
Reaction score
116
Location
Massachusetts
Vehicle(s)
Toyota Matrix
1,500 payload sold it for me. Being able to load most if not all of it in the bed is a bonus. Thankfully I don’t tow anything so that number doesn’t factor for me. This truck is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. Very happy to see it come to life.
 

Wanted33

Active member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Nov 3, 2020
Messages
37
Reaction score
72
Location
Down South in Dixie
Vehicle(s)
Mustang GT, Jeep Wrangler
Being a bit more mature (re: old) than many here I remember the first CVT's that hit the market. What a disaster. But, I'm sure they have come a long way since the dark ages. I too am puzzled that you can't get the AWD with the 2.5L hybrid.
 

oljackfrost

Well-known member
First Name
Mark
Joined
Mar 9, 2021
Messages
189
Reaction score
292
Location
Minnesota
Vehicle(s)
Subaru Impreza
Is the 2.5 engine referred to as the "naturally aspirated" engine? Premium fuel burns slower than regular, is that correct? Thanks for your reply.
Naturally aspirated means that the engine does not have increased power by means of a turbocharger or a supercharger, which force air into the engine. The 2.5 is a NA engine. The Duratec series also has a timing chain , not a belt, which was a big concern for me.
 

oljackfrost

Well-known member
First Name
Mark
Joined
Mar 9, 2021
Messages
189
Reaction score
292
Location
Minnesota
Vehicle(s)
Subaru Impreza
Being a bit more mature (re: old) than many here I remember the first CVT's that hit the market. What a disaster. But, I'm sure they have come a long way since the dark ages. I too am puzzled that you can't get the AWD with the 2.5L hybrid.
The early CVTs (and some current ones) use a belt for the transmission operation. Look up info on the new eCVTs used by Ford and Toyota and you will find that they are mechanical using gears and are extremely simple. Electric motors have 100% torque at 0 rpm (instant) so that feature can be used continuously to modulate the infinite (continuous) “ratios.”
 

Old Ranchero

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 1, 2021
Messages
153
Reaction score
219
Location
CO
Vehicle(s)
2018 F-150, 2013 Grand Cherokee
Being a bit more mature (re: old) than many here I remember the first CVT's that hit the market. What a disaster. But, I'm sure they have come a long way since the dark ages. I too am puzzled that you can't get the AWD with the 2.5L hybrid.
my wife's 2014 Subaru Outback has a CVT- and I hate it. When she steps on it to get into flow of traffic its sounds like it is badly slipping all the way up to 6K RPMs. A voice in the back of my head screams SHIFT DAMMIT SHIFT the whole time! The funniest part is they have paddle shifters and a sport mode with fake "hard shifts" standard in that thing! Not sure what type CVT is used there but I would never consider buying a vehicle equipped with that. I started driving (legally anyways) in 1974 and had a Summer job working in a transmission shop and slipping transmissions are burned into my memory ever since.
 

Old Ranchero

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 1, 2021
Messages
153
Reaction score
219
Location
CO
Vehicle(s)
2018 F-150, 2013 Grand Cherokee
maybe I'm missing it on specs or looking in the wrong place, but trying to find out if the base XL with 2.0 Turbo has push button start or an actual keyed ignition? Also if it has Auto start/stop - if so is there a disable button like my F-150 has? That, and if sway control included with 4k towing package are my only questions at this point.
 

FirstOnRaceDay

Well-known member
First Name
Devin
Joined
Jun 2, 2021
Messages
190
Reaction score
175
Location
Toledo Ohio
Vehicle(s)
2000 Mercury Grand Marquis LS
my wife's 2014 Subaru Outback has a CVT- and I hate it. When she steps on it to get into flow of traffic its sounds like it is badly slipping all the way up to 6K RPMs. A voice in the back of my head screams SHIFT DAMMIT SHIFT the whole time! The funniest part is they have paddle shifters and a sport mode with fake "hard shifts" standard in that thing! Not sure what type CVT is used there but I would never consider buying a vehicle equipped with that. I started driving (legally anyways) in 1974 and had a Summer job working in a transmission shop and slipping transmissions are burned into my memory ever since.
I haven’t driven the ECVT yet. Going to try too soon. (Test drive Escape Hybrid)
but it sounds like it’s NOTHING like a normal CVT. Should be much more responsive.
 

FirstOnRaceDay

Well-known member
First Name
Devin
Joined
Jun 2, 2021
Messages
190
Reaction score
175
Location
Toledo Ohio
Vehicle(s)
2000 Mercury Grand Marquis LS
maybe I'm missing it on specs or looking in the wrong place, but trying to find out if the base XL with 2.0 Turbo has push button start or an actual keyed ignition? Also if it has Auto start/stop - if so is there a disable button like my F-150 has? That, and if sway control included with 4k towing package are my only questions at this point.
1 - looking at the interior photos on the build and price site, only the lariat has push bottom start.

2 - every ford so far does have a button to disable start stop. (Ecosport, Escape, bronco sport) typically located near the traction control button.
 

Old Ranchero

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 1, 2021
Messages
153
Reaction score
219
Location
CO
Vehicle(s)
2018 F-150, 2013 Grand Cherokee
1 - looking at the interior photos on the build and price site, only the lariat has push bottom start.

2 - every ford so far does have a button to disable start stop. (Ecosport, Escape, bronco sport) typically located near the traction control button.
push Bottom? Don't need that feature! Yeah, I saw the Lariat interior studio photos and they have the start push button blurred out. Seems like on specs though "remote keyless entry" and "key fob" could be standard across the range- unclear. thought I saw a picture somewhere of a key hanging out of side of steering column with a grey interior. A little confusing...

Also on those Lariat studio photos of interior I scrutinized them and couldn't see an obvious disable for auto start/stop. Our F-150 has it easily located on the dash next to radio. Didn't see the traction control either and assumed that photo example would be loaded with every option. Maybe I can find it on a sample window sticker someplace for confirmation...
 

kingranchero

Active member
Joined
Apr 1, 2021
Messages
38
Reaction score
85
Location
Dearborn
Website
www.ford.com
Vehicle(s)
2023 Ford Maverick
my wife's 2014 Subaru Outback has a CVT- and I hate it. When she steps on it to get into flow of traffic its sounds like it is badly slipping all the way up to 6K RPMs. A voice in the back of my head screams SHIFT DAMMIT SHIFT the whole time! The funniest part is they have paddle shifters and a sport mode with fake "hard shifts" standard in that thing! Not sure what type CVT is used there but I would never consider buying a vehicle equipped with that. I started driving (legally anyways) in 1974 and had a Summer job working in a transmission shop and slipping transmissions are burned into my memory ever since.
The Hybrid's eCVT is far, far better than the belt/chain-drive CVTs in Subarus and Nissans. At least give it a spin at a dealership. I think it drives fantastically.
 
Last edited:

oljackfrost

Well-known member
First Name
Mark
Joined
Mar 9, 2021
Messages
189
Reaction score
292
Location
Minnesota
Vehicle(s)
Subaru Impreza
my wife's 2014 Subaru Outback has a CVT- and I hate it. When she steps on it to get into flow of traffic its sounds like it is badly slipping all the way up to 6K RPMs. A voice in the back of my head screams SHIFT DAMMIT SHIFT the whole time! The funniest part is they have paddle shifters and a sport mode with fake "hard shifts" standard in that thing! Not sure what type CVT is used there but I would never consider buying a vehicle equipped with that. I started driving (legally anyways) in 1974 and had a Summer job working in a transmission shop and slipping transmissions are burned into my memory ever since.
Actually that Subaru trans isn’t slipping it’s just the trans being it’s most efficient. Subaru listened to complaints, our 2017 Impreza has computer programmed “shift points “ that you can’t tell from a regular automatic. The eCVT on the Maverick has no slipping, there are videos that show how they work.
 

ElMaverick

Well-known member
First Name
S
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Messages
206
Reaction score
387
Location
Canada
Vehicle(s)
Mazda 3
The Hybrid's eCVT is far, far better than the belt-drive CVTs in Subarus and Nissans. At least give it a spin at a dealership. I think it drives fantastically.
How would you compare it to the i3 turbo? Driving that one in a rental and I'm happy with it, but fear the hybrid will be even slower....the XLT 2.0 inches it's way out of my budget as soon as I add spray in bed, cover and copilot (just for the Blindspot)
 
Top