Manual Transmission

[Edge Haley]

I agree with most of what you say, except about stopping power-
(If you are at 80 miles an hour in a Maverick and press the brakes hard, you will find the automatic greatly contributing engine braking/ stopping power., that is not there in a manual transmission.).

I would say that anyone that has experience driving a manual would be able to utilize downshifting, breaking, and adjusting engine speeds to control vehicle speed and control that would rival just about any automatic, in fact, unless the vehicle has regenerative breaking, I would argue that an standard automatic applies almost zero breaking, as they are usually programmed to allow the vehicle to cruise/coast for the greatest fuel economy and reduced transmission wear.
Some diesel trucks (F250 ^, 2500 ^ series GM and Dodge Ram) may have tow assistance not found in common passenger vehicles. Some track racers would also disagree with your stance on the speed and accuracy of up/down shifting as desired, especially during a competitive driving situation.
Anyhow, Edge Haley, thanks for the dialogue! Have a good day.

You need to read up on Hybrid "cruise/coast" when you apply brakes (not BREAKS) the hybrid engine turns off fuel/engine and your wheel turn the ICE engine and uses engine compression as part of regenerative braking & braking to recharge the battery...I live on a steep hill and purposefully take my foot off the "brake" and the regenerative braking slows the Hybrid down recharging the Hybrid battery. The display shows the regenerative braking come on. When you slow to a stop the ICE restarts. Even Ford suggest brake disk will have a 3 to 4 times life due to Hybrid degenerative braking not using your disk brakes, unless you are pressing the brake peddle.

I'll have to try 80-0, but the Hybrid transmission is so quite doubt you will be able to feel the gear changes. But rest assured you speed control the Hybrid automatic transmission. But positively the Hybrid contributes to braking...as the engine compression occurs, though you can not hear/nor feel the Hybrid automatic transmission I'm confident it is down shifting.

In the Porsche PDK, from 120 mph, full brake, it shifts from 7th, to 6th, to 5th, to 4th, to 3rd to 2nd gear in no less than 3 or 4 seconds...and you can see the gear changes display, having a monumental effect on stopping power with use of the engine compression...can't do it that fast in any manual transmission. It is different in a Hybrid but the principle is the same, engine compression contributes to braking. You only see this in a Hybrid, not an EcoBoost, and again the display shows you the compression braking.

Regarding auto racing, I've been through all 3 of the Porsche Advance Driving Schools, and Sprint racing series....Probably 4 years ago manual transmissions pretty much disappeared in the Sprint racing series all over the country, NO ONE drives manual transmissions in competition (maybe exception of NASCAR, which I don't follow) mainly because the automatics are so much quicker at down and up shifting....for safety purposes and efficiency Porsche took all manual transmission cars off all their Race Training tracks, all cars are now the Automatic PDK's (Carson, Calif, Atlanta, etc.)

I would have been in your school of thought until driving a very high performance car for 3 hours. I too like shifting gears. But the current day performance transmissions shift to the appropriate gear quicker than you can possibly think.

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r.... based on computer calculations around RPM, odometer and Dynamic Stability control.

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[Kevin H.]

 

[JennyJoannSuebeeMcNash]

Been driving manuals since my auto trans crapped out in the '87 Mazda 323 my parents bought for my high school graduation, same year. Learned my lesson from Mazda.

Traded in/sold a manual 2014 Accord LX when I bought the Maverick. Was convinced that I'd be groping around with my left foot for the clutch. Nope. However, I sometimes still find myself doing the "ghost grope" looking for the stick shift.

 

[tonyinsd]

Seems to me that Ford should be looking at offering a manual transmission. Of course I'd also love to see a plug in hybrid version. If I had to bet on one of those, I'd bet we see the plug in hybrid drive train from the Escape and don't see a manual.

Only around one percent of all cars are sold with a manual transmission. I don't even know if they'd work with the hybrid. I don't see Ford offering one because there's just no demand for it and it would add complexity to a supply chain that's already constrained.

When they don't even have a manual offered on the top of the line Mustang, you can forget about it on the Maverick. Besides, the automatics are so much better at shifting than us these days. I'm pretty good, but I can't shift in less than a tenth of a second.

I could see a plug in hybrid at some point, though.

 

[Landric]

Only around one percent of all cars are sold with a manual transmission. I don't even know if they'd work with the hybrid. I don't see Ford offering one because there's just no demand for it and it would add complexity to a supply chain that's already constrained.

When they don't even have a manual offered on the top of the line Mustang, you can forget about it on the Maverick. Besides, the automatics are so much better at shifting than us these days. I'm pretty good, but I can't shift in less than a tenth of a second.

I could see a plug in hybrid at some point, though.

It is possible to make a hybrid with a manual, the Honda CR-Z was available that way, but I don't see Ford ever doing it.

I really enjoy driving a manual transmission. I don't care of the computer controlled automatic is better a shifting than I am, I just like the engagement involved with "rowing your own."

 

[Maverickman74]

You need to read up on Hybrid "cruise/coast" when you apply brakes (not BREAKS) the hybrid engine turns off fuel/engine and your wheel turn the ICE engine and uses engine compression as part of regenerative braking & braking to recharge the battery...I live on a steep hill and purposefully take my foot off the "brake" and the regenerative braking slows the Hybrid down recharging the Hybrid battery. The display shows the regenerative braking come on. When you slow to a stop the ICE restarts. Even Ford suggest brake disk will have a 3 to 4 times life due to Hybrid degenerative braking not using your disk brakes, unless you are pressing the brake peddle.

I'll have to try 80-0, but the Hybrid transmission is so quite doubt you will be able to feel the gear changes. But rest assured you speed control the Hybrid automatic transmission. But positively the Hybrid contributes to braking...as the engine compression occurs, though you can not hear/nor feel the Hybrid automatic transmission I'm confident it is down shifting.

In the Porsche PDK, from 120 mph, full brake, it shifts from 7th, to 6th, to 5th, to 4th, to 3rd to 2nd gear in no less than 3 or 4 seconds...and you can see the gear changes display, having a monumental effect on stopping power with use of the engine compression...can't do it that fast in any manual transmission. It is different in a Hybrid but the principle is the same, engine compression contributes to braking. You only see this in a Hybrid, not an EcoBoost, and again the display shows you the compression braking.

Regarding auto racing, I've been through all 3 of the Porsche Advance Driving Schools, and Sprint racing series....Probably 4 years ago manual transmissions pretty much disappeared in the Sprint racing series all over the country, NO ONE drives manual transmissions in competition (maybe exception of NASCAR, which I don't follow) mainly because the automatics are so much quicker at down and up shifting....for safety purposes and efficiency Porsche took all manual transmission cars off all their Race Training tracks, all cars are now the Automatic PDK's (Carson, Calif, Atlanta, etc.)

I would have been in your school of thought until driving a very high performance car for 3 hours. I too like shifting gears. But the current day performance transmissions shift to the appropriate gear quicker than you can possibly think.

https://lewisandclark.smugmug.com/Other/Porsche-Track/PorscheBackup/






r.... based on computer calculations around RPM, odometer and Dynamic Stability control.

And your point is..... LAME!!!

Manuals are fun, this is not communist china, we can drive what we want.

 

[kcamp317]

I miss having a manual transmission. So much more fun but this current generation will never know.

 

[A Dodge that drives Fords]

I don't know if someone else mentioned this but the new full size Ford bronco can be had with a manual transmission. I was considering one until I seen the gas mileage on the bronco but the manual transmission still gets better gas mileage than the automatic transmission not by much but it's something. If the Maverick came with a manual transmission I would have gotten that.

 

[MavDave]

Only around one percent of all cars are sold with a manual transmission. I don't even know if they'd work with the hybrid. I don't see Ford offering one because there's just no demand for it and it would add complexity to a supply chain that's already constrained.

When they don't even have a manual offered on the top of the line Mustang, you can forget about it on the Maverick. Besides, the automatics are so much better at shifting than us these days. I'm pretty good, but I can't shift in less than a tenth of a second.

I could see a plug in hybrid at some point, though.

The GT 500 is not offered with a manual but all other models are. "Drivers" cars like those the WRX, Civic si & R, the BRZ/86. Those will be the last ones to lose the manual and ICE.

 

[Red Ryder]

Even Ford suggest brake disk will have a 3 to 4 times life due to Hybrid degenerative braking not using your disk brakes, unless you are pressing the brake peddle.

"degenerative" eh? And you were worried about "break"

 

[tonyinsd]

The GT 500 is not offered with a manual but all other models are. "Drivers" cars like those the WRX, Civic si & R, the BRZ/86. Those will be the last ones to lose the manual and ICE.

Yes, I know. That Mustang GT convertible parked next to the Maverick has one. But even most Mustangs are sold with automatic transmissions. And you know what? I'm actually fine with that. If I get enough spare change to buy the GT500, I'll have a lot of fun driving it even though the computer is doing all the shifting.

It's 2022. Things change. I mean, the idea that we'd be driving around a hybrid truck with unibody construction would have been laughable ten years ago. But here we are.

 

[MavDave]

Most is correct but the 30% who buy GTs with the manual those are the guys that like to dirve. I'm just saying IMO... it's a lot more fun to row your own gears. This is the second automatic I've paid for in my life. The last one I paid for was when I was 16

 

[TheRef]

Ford only offers manual transmission in two vehicles, Mustang and Bronco Sport. The same Bronco Sport that is made at Maverick plant in Mexico. It would be soooo easy for Ford to offer a manual in the Maverick. I suspect it could be an upgrade option and Ford would sell more than Mustangs & Bronco Sport combined. But with everything going EV in the near future I doubt it will happen.

 

[olderbudwiser]

Sadly the new breed being hired by auto companies, if they saw 3 pedals in the vehicle would spend 3 hours googling to figure out what they were looking at.

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