Hybrids are really hard on engines - you tube video

[Mavster Mechanic]

Those wear numbers are very low for that many miles and type of driving you do (especially towing 3k on the '22 hybrid). <2 / 1000 miles is very, very good.

M1 is good oil. Like you, I used it on my wife's Prius for many years however it's lead to oil sticking up the rings and starting to cause it to burn oil. So far, Valvoline Restore & Protect has reduced the burning to almost 0, so I've switched to that for now.

Interesting. Thanks for the post.

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[Mavster Mechanic]

So you’re saying eco mode slows you down faster than “L” mode does?

Naw. Fastjeff was confused and not talking about the same thing as Heybales.

Regen energy (kWh) attainable comes from your momentum and is the same in any mode, or brake pedal, as long as you stay off the brake pads. This is how much charge you get.

Regen Strength Coasting (kW) varies based on mode, and/or how far you press the brake pedal. This is instantaneous amperage you get.

Apples and Oranges.

 

[Darryl]

"80 to 90% of engine wear come from start ups." If that's true, that stupid start/stop feature they tell us is ok, is actually damaging your engine.

Start stop has been out long enough to see that the only thing affected is starter life,. We do tend to replace a few more starters on cars equipped with start stop technology. It does no damage to the engine because the engines were designed with that feature in mind. And the PCM prevents its operation under any condition that's unsafe for the engine. Start stop is aggravating. But it's not harmful to the engine in actual practice.

 

[Darryl]

Using a world class motor oil made specifically for Hybrids - seems a smart decision. What oil do you use?

Seems smart. Does no harm. But unnecessary. I use the motorcraft oil that's recommended. . If I didn't work at Ford, I'd buy any synthetic oil that meets Ford's standards. They'll all do just fine. I find that people overstress about unnecessary stuff. Change the oil at the recommended intervals or a bit earlier. Use whatever brand of oil that meets the standards set by the manufacturer, and the engine will be fine

 

[sprubs]

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I mean, I usually use mobil1 on my oil changes but I've never bought a hybrid specific one on purpose. I just look for the best deal on full synthetic.

 

[todd92]

"80 to 90% of engine wear come from COLD start ups." If that's true, that stupid start/stop feature they tell us is ok, is actually damaging your engine.

FTFY

 

[Fastjeff]

Thanks to this posting I've been eyeballing that heat gauge more than normal. Last night, after a 10-mile trip the needle had JUST reached normal operating temperature--and it was 70 ' F day and in "Econ" mode. I'll try it again toddy in "Normal" mode and see if that speeds up the heating process. Jeff

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Seems smart. Does no harm. But unnecessary. I use the motorcraft oil that's recommended. . If I didn't work at Ford, I'd buy any synthetic oil that meets Ford's standards. They'll all do just fine. I find that people overstress about unnecessary stuff. Change the oil at the recommended intervals or a bit earlier. Use whatever brand of oil that meets the standards set by the manufacturer, and the engine will be fine

The annually change oil light came on yesterday one week into the 35th week of ownership at 4,963 miles. That pencils out to the works at about $0.07/mile. I may go in about a week early this year. I wish the backup camera had a little spray wiper to clean the dust off.

 

[Ryom]

Idling is harder on engines than warm starts are. Way less wear on an engine that doesn't run half the time.

 

[johnDeere]

I would be more worried about the hybrid engine starting when you on the freeway and it starts from 0 rpms to 2400 rpms in a couple seconds with no oil pressure yet.
I don't think the hybrid engine has a pressurized oil tank to supply oil to the engine before it starts up.
At least when you first start the engine when its cold, it starts up and runs below 1000 rpms.

 

[Timothyd]

I'm going to make a general observation that since synthetic oil sticks to metal for far longer than conventional oil, I find it entirely possible that the optimal synthetic would be different for a hybrid, which switches on and off frequently, than for a conventional ICE.

A accordingly, it seems logical that the optimal synthetic formulation for a hybrid would be different than for an ICE.

I think it actually switches on/off less than many cars. In stop and go traffic a non hybrid will run exclusively on battery while a non hybrid will turn on the ICE every time you want to move forward a few car lengths.

 

[AutobahnSHO]

I would be more worried about the hybrid engine starting when you on the freeway and it starts from 0 rpms to 2400 rpms in a couple seconds with no oil pressure yet.

Not much different at all than starting up when you're rolling 25mph and it starts up. Oil is still coating the metal surfaces. I believe it only takes a second or two for the oil pressure to get back up to "full".

The oil viscosity chosen by Ford is a result of decades of engineering and research. Priuses and other Ford hybrids have been around for a long time.

 

[Escapologist]

Heh, sure, hyrbids do a "clutch drop" start

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

I would be more worried about the hybrid engine starting when you on the freeway and it starts from 0 rpms to 2400 rpms in a couple seconds with no oil pressure yet.
I don't think the hybrid engine has a pressurized oil tank to supply oil to the engine before it starts up.
At least when you first start the engine when its cold, it starts up and runs below 1000 rpms.

The hybrid is not run (with fuel anyway) below ~1250 RPM.

Unless it's due to your foot smashing the go pedal to floor, a restart at high speed will be about the same as a start with zero speed. But I agree it is unnerving and I really don't like it either.

But collectively it's been restarted at highway speeds millions of times without issues.

 

[Darryl]

I would be more worried about the hybrid engine starting when you on the freeway and it starts from 0 rpms to 2400 rpms in a couple seconds with no oil pressure yet.
I don't think the hybrid engine has a pressurized oil tank to supply oil to the engine before it starts up.
At least when you first start the engine when its cold, it starts up and runs below 1000 rpms.

And given the fact that hybrid engines last just as long as other engines lets me know that even that worry is unfounded.

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