Fuel economy hybrid vs turbo

[HeyBales]

I went turbo, In order to save any money I would have to drive more than 15000 miles per year, keep the car for more than 4 years, Then there is the faster depreciation of the hybrid plus the fact that as they get older you will need to take it to the dealer.
No a fan of CVs. Now if we where talking about a Toyota hybrid it would be different, have two of those.

FYI so you have good info - the Maverick eCVT (if that's what you meant by CVs), is the same as the Toyota hybrids. 2 motors and planetary gear to give infinite gearing within the range.

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[Mavster Mechanic]

I went turbo, In order to save any money I would have to drive more than 15000 miles per year, keep the car for more than 4 years, Then there is the faster depreciation of the hybrid plus the fact that as they get older you will need to take it to the dealer.
No a fan of CVs. Now if we where talking about a Toyota hybrid it would be different, have two of those.

Sounds like you had some bad info.
Ask this group if you have any questions.

 

[YV1227]

I knew about the trans being a Toyota licensed one, That's going to be my daily driver, I like to go ICE and 8 speed.

 

[BlueOval1954]

Sounds like you had some bad info.
Ask this group if you have any questions.

If you ask this group, all you will hear is how wonderful their mpg is. Pipe down and just enjoy the ride.

 

[Chops]

I’m at 18 cents a mile on my Lobo. Paddle shifting away in Sport & Lobo Modes on 91 octane. This is my “weekend car” and I am enjoying every mile immensely!

Of course, being retired every day is the weekend. That said, I’ll be lucky to put 3,000 miles on my Lobo per year - so I’ll spend less on gas than most folks here on the forum.

 

[RR - All the way]

So how are we calculating cost per mile? My last fill was 15.6 gallons for 520 miles. At $2.64 a gallon that is .079 for an EB. In 30k miles I have only had two tanks when I did not get 500 or more miles. 85 percent two lane roads at about 60 mph. I might also add that with my 22 EB I have not had any "sleep" messages...

Enjoy what you have.

 

[dhaskit]

My maverick hybrid is doing .06 cents a mile.
I noticed that there are some eb’s doing more like 0.145 cents a mile.
That a huge difference!
Almost 1500 savings over every 16 thousand miles. That adds up fast and so do the miles if you drive your vehicle a lot of miles.
incredible.
That’s a lot saved over 64k miles.
I do love turbos so absolutely ZERO discredit to the EB.
it’s just amazing how much savings it is.
I love my truck

I’m glad you love your Hybrid Maverick.
I love my Ecoboost. It has everything I wanted and gets great mileage. I was not interested in the hybrid when I purchased and I’m not feeling any remorse for my decision.
I’m glad we are Both happy with the different models we chose, my friend.

 

[zorki1c]

Let’s compare when it’s -25 F for a week or two

 

[Chops]

I couldn't tell you how much per mile I am spending.

Me neither - I had to get on my calculator screen. 18 cents per mile would cause many here to faint - but I consider it a bargain for the fun.

I wonder what the cost per mile on a DisneyLand roller coaster is?

 

[tom_tucker]

Hybrid vs. Turbo. I'm at 38,000 miles and lets say I've saved a $1,000 in gas (3k vs 4k in gas). Meanwhile, I've paid for $5k in accessories, 5k in taxes and fees and about 5k in depreciation. So I've paid 18k so far for Hybrid ownership vs. 19k for the ecoboost, assuming similar deprecation. The FWD hybrid was a few grand cheaper than the AWD turbo on my 2021 order but beyond that it had not been a huge difference in total cost of ownership.

 

[r0tax]

My maverick hybrid is doing .06 cents a mile.
I noticed that there are some eb’s doing more like 0.145 cents a mile.
That a huge difference!
Almost 1500 savings over every 16 thousand miles. That adds up fast and so do the miles if you drive your vehicle a lot of miles.
incredible.
That’s a lot saved over 64k miles.
I do love turbos so absolutely ZERO discredit to the EB.
it’s just amazing how much savings it is.
I love my truck

I don't own/drive a turbo 2.0L for the $/mi.
But, smiles or joy/mi is a better method of measurement.

Heres my numbers for each fill up.

$.118 is for an estimated cost per gallon for 87 octane at $3.109/gal (the avg price for 87 oct at the time--the dealer filled the tank initially, I had to do some guesstimating). 27.5 MPG

$.161 is for 91 oct top tier at $3.799/gal. 22.5 MPG

$.175 is for 91 oct top, Non ethanol at $4.299/gal. 24.5 MPG


So, if you want to be frugal with a 2.0L EB, you could probably get close to .10/mi or a bit less if your full on hyper-miling and Eco-mode the best you can, staying OFF boost every time you drive. AC off all the time. Windows up all the time (for aero). In the Flats and lower elevations/sea level.
But, I'd rather just have the Hybrid if that were my goal/intent/need/want.

Admittedly, the fuel efficiency of the Hybrid is intriguing, especially in a pickup form factor.

 

[Darryl]

I knew about the trans being a Toyota licensed one, That's going to be my daily driver, I like to go ICE and 8 speed.

The only reason to go 8 speed is personal preference. Reliability fears are unfounded. They seem to be as reliable as the Toyota hybrids. Also. The Hybrid components are covered for 8 years/100,000 Miles. So you should have peace of mind. If you prefer the 8 speed vs the hybrid. That's perfectly ok. But reliability is a NON issue

 

[Cherokee]

I simply preferred the Ecoboost’s power and systems.
I’m not wealthy by any means but if I needed it I could afford to fuel a V-8 F250 without worry for my normal 12,000 miles a year.

Last winter the Mavbrid complaints far outnumbered the Ecoboost complaints, here in this forum.
Most everything was about a cold running vehicle and Constant complaints about lower hybrid mpg’s that were still well above the Ecoboost mpg’s.

Reading in here helped me decide I’d be happier with Ecoboost power and driving style.
I’ll never be a slow driver.
I’m a happy Idiot with my foot on the gas getting 26-31 mpg In My Ecoboost.

Vroom Vroom says the kid in me. :’P
I get good mpg’s at 80-85 mph.

Me:
I pull out in the 60 mph speed limit four lane.
Way out infront of two or three cars doing 65-70. Not causing them to even lift off the throttle.
They, them ALWAYS speed up to 75 even 80 just because I got out front. Prideful aren’t they:XD
I Ecoboost up to 85 and sure enough they , them all slow back down to 65.

I click on my CC and set it to 67 and drift away from them. So silly and childish of me and them
The other cool thing is when Billy Bob or Jed comes flying down the road in a beat up 4X4 doing 80 with the big friggin tires moaning away so loud you could hear them in the next holler. And the muffler or lack there of sends echos miles away as it skips through the mountains.

I wait till they get too close for comfort then I think, “Lightbulb” Hey it’s Italian tune up time !
I set my CC to 90-95 mph and watch the Cowboy Caddilac shrink in my rear view mirror then ease up off the throttle out of pure shame and fear of blowing a $300 big fat chunky tire as he desperately holds on the the steering wheel.

Yep I’m still a kid, I’ll never grow up.
Fugg’em
:’P

The Hybrid was just too,
Civilized, too modern for me.

If I had the time to play with it I’d have me a Cowboy Caddy with big meats and a big engine so I could make some noise.

I had to wear ear plugs when I drove a Mac truck once. The thing was a powerful beastie. Instant deafness with out ear plugs.
This old tanker truck was so much fun.
Back then the word hybrid meant mixing dog breeds.
Mutt making !

And NO sir I did not just call the Mavbrid a mutt !

 

[Master Blaster]

I went turbo, In order to save any money I would have to drive more than 15000 miles per year, keep the car for more than 4 years, Then there is the faster depreciation of the hybrid plus the fact that as they get older you will need to take it to the dealer.
No a fan of CVs. Now if we where talking about a Toyota hybrid it would be different, have two of those.

Definitely not accurate. The Hybrid is not depreciating at all. In some places it still actually has negative depreciation. The hybrid drivetrain components have an 8-year warranty and are expected to last at least 12 years and maybe even 20 for some. The difference in gas mileage for the person who does not continuously drive at 70mph is pretty stark, maybe as much as double. Finally, I hope that you realize that the Ford/Mazda-designed engine is much more reliable than Toyota drivetrains today, while the Ford/Toyota-designed hybrid transmission is almost identical to the one that Toyota currently uses in their vehicles. C/V joints are a non-issue, as they are in use on every vehicle on the road today for very good engineering reasons. Solid oxcart axles and front axle U-joints went way in the 70s. The Hyundai-sourced C/V joints are an issue primarily on the EcoBoost, where they see more aggressive driving leading to much earlier failures. Hopefully you have a much older pair of Toyotas, as the current crop are slightly less reliable than their current Ford equivalents and have a higher recall rate for much more serious issues like axles detaching and brakes failing while driving. And the crap Tundra engines are machined just as badly as the GM ones.

 

[710-oil-614]

I went turbo, In order to save any money I would have to drive more than 15000 miles per year, keep the car for more than 4 years, Then there is the faster depreciation of the hybrid plus the fact that as they get older you will need to take it to the dealer.
No a fan of CVs. Now if we where talking about a Toyota hybrid it would be different, have two of those.

I don't know how I missed this originally. This is the least informed take I've ever seen on MTC!

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