Hyper Flash after Turn Signal Recall

[MakinDoForNow]

It is both sides, and we did reseat the bulbs.....if we replaced both LEDs on one side of the rear with incandescent bulbs, the problem went away. IT's definitely tied tot the software upgrade. We specifically spent extra to buy the LEDs that were "Canbus Ready", so we wouldn't have this problem, then Ford "fixes" the truck! So sick of FORD, I will likely NEVER buy another Ford again! Just my personal thought....

A canbus ready bulb has a resistor to mimic the expected current draw of a standard bulb it is possible for the resistor to be or become burned out or degrade. If it becomes too hot and the draw changes to outside of range expected by the canbus. Yes it could be something wrong or unusual with your update by Ford but if it works with standard incandescent bulbs it is not Fords fault it is operating as designed. You might need to check the draw on the led bulbs and verify that they are operating as designed as well as within the expected range. I am not trying to be difficult and give Ford an "OUT". Maybe vendor will send you a replacement set or single bulb? There are a lot of maybes. I do not know how many chips are in a maverick but from what I have read most new vehicle of any kind have between 3,000-5,000. The system in my hybrid lariat loaded operates quicker than my XLT lux (one give away is when I push the mode select button on lariat it will "see" three quicker pushes on lariat than on the XLT. So lariat appears to have faster processor but could be just a difference in code though not as likely). I don't know to what resolution the data on the canbus can be viewed with forscan??? Maybe you could compare how the left and right bulbs differ. Have you tried switching the led bulbs from side to side? Might be a clue? It's possible some of the trucks got wired one way on passenger side differently than others and the turn signal update fixing the perceived programming error of reading the draw caused the hyper flashing from some trucks to be fixed and the ones which were wiring to now experience it. WHO KNOWS???

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[SteveM]

A canbus ready bulb has a resistor to mimic the expected current draw of a standard bulb it is possible for the resistor to be or become burned out or degrade. If it becomes too hot and the draw changes to outside of range expected by the canbus. Yes it could be something wrong or unusual with your update by Ford but if it works with standard incandescent bulbs it is not Fords fault it is operating as designed. You might need to check the draw on the led bulbs and verify that they are operating as designed as well as within the expected range. I am not trying to be difficult and give Ford an "OUT". Maybe vendor will send you a replacement set or single bulb? There are a lot of maybes. I do not know how many chips are in a maverick but from what I have read most new vehicle of any kind have between 3,000-5,000. The system in my hybrid lariat loaded operates quicker than my XLT lux (one give away is when I push the mode select button on lariat it will "see" three quicker pushes on lariat than on the XLT. So lariat appears to have faster processor but could be just a difference in code though not as likely). I don't know to what resolution the data on the canbus can be viewed with forscan??? Maybe you could compare how the left and right bulbs differ. Have you tried switching the led bulbs from side to side? Might be a clue? It's possible some of the trucks got wired one way on passenger side differently than others and the turn signal update fixing the perceived programming error of reading the draw caused the hyper flashing from some trucks to be fixed and the ones which were wiring to now experience it. WHO KNOWS???

I am a trained electronics technician. I swapped the bulbs locations, and also as I mention before I also swapped in the original bulbs. I could buy the theory on the LEDs resistor value changing, but not ALL 4 at the same time, (unless something done during the recall process damaged them). Here is the real "kicker to this whole situation. The turn signals indicators on the dash hyper blink, but NOT the actual turn signals!

 

[SteveM]

LASFIT LED bulbs sure seem to be problematic especially in the Maverick.

What prompts people to replace perfectly working bulbs with aftermarket LED bulbs?

What do they gain except hastles like this.

Um, LEDs are BRIGHTER, and longer lasting. The bulbs work fine, and there was no issue prior to Ford screwing around with reprogramming his truck. We live in an area with mountains, and quite often there is FOG when we have to cross one or both of them. The brighter LED bulbs make a HUGE difference in how visible we are during those situations! The bulbs presented no problems for several months until Ford messed with the truck!
Oh, and by the way, just because "you don't see a reason for something", doesn't mean no legitimate reason exists.
I'll never understand what prompts people to chime in when they have NOTHING useful or constructive to add to the conversation?

 

[LSchicago]

So my son and I both installed LASFIT LED bulb packages in our Mavericks, (his 2022 EB AWD XLT Lux, mine 2023 Hybrid XLT Lux). He had his serpentine belt replaced under warranty, and they did the Turn Signal update, now he has Hyper-Flash. Anyone else experience this?

LED bulbs that are not Canbus cause hyper flash. They do not draw the same power as an incandescent bulb, so your truck thinks it has a bulb out. Easy to fix with resistors.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

I am a trained electronics technician. I swapped the bulbs locations, and also as I mention before I also swapped in the original bulbs. I could buy the theory on the LEDs resistor value changing, but not ALL 4 at the same time, (unless something done during the recall process damaged them). Here is the real "kicker to this whole situation. The turn signals indicators on the dash hyper blink, but NOT the actual turn signals!

The hyper blink on dash is notice to driver that an anomaly has been detected which needs to be checked out. Everything needs to be checked out and if working perhaps the hyperlink can be reset, I don't know procedure if it exists but would expect it could.

 

[Silver23]

Um, LEDs are BRIGHTER, and longer lasting. The bulbs work fine, and there was no issue prior to Ford screwing around with reprogramming his truck. We live in an area with mountains, and quite often there is FOG when we have to cross one or both of them. The brighter LED bulbs make a HUGE difference in how visible we are during those situations! The bulbs presented no problems for several months until Ford messed with the truck!
Oh, and by the way, just because "you don't see a reason for something", doesn't mean no legitimate reason exists.
I'll never understand what prompts people to chime in when they have NOTHING useful or constructive to add to the conversation?

well to be fair, Ford didn't mess with the truck, they fixed the truck. They fixed a problem that failed to tell potentially thousands of drivers if they have burnt out bulbs.
Now that would be a real problem in the fog.

 

[dusty1787]

I am a trained electronics technician. I swapped the bulbs locations, and also as I mention before I also swapped in the original bulbs. I could buy the theory on the LEDs resistor value changing, but not ALL 4 at the same time, (unless something done during the recall process damaged them). Here is the real "kicker to this whole situation. The turn signals indicators on the dash hyper blink, but NOT the actual turn signals!

Can anyone else who has LEDs in and had the recall done confirm this?....the truck indicates to the driver that there is a bulb out, but the actual signals flash like normal? the... "Here is the real "kicker to this whole situation. The turn signals indicators on the dash hyper blink, but NOT the actual turn signals!"

If that is the case, to me at least, I could put up with the hyperflash ticking in the truck, if the signals to everyone else is still normal pace. I would not be able to stand the hyperflashing lights to everyone else because whenever I see a driver with it (without LEDs), I assume they have no idea why its flashing quick and have no idea about how to maintain their vehicle. The ones with LEDs I assume just had no idea about canbus or load resistors and figured just put an LED in and itll work.

I am also waiting to see those who are more experienced with Forscan to see where the setting would be to remove the bulb out notification (assuming the bulbs still flash the same pace and not hyperflash). Or if there are other options in Forscan to fix this issue.

But there may be an option to tell the truck there are LED signals in...such as this post about the 2020-21 transit forums I came across.
https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/2021-forscan-bulb-turn-outage-vs-led-turn-outage.86923/

Either way, if more people can confirm that after the turn signal recall with LEDs, if the truck actually hyperflashes the lights or just a driver indicator inside hyperflashing, along with if someone more experienced with Forscan can look into this issue more, would be great!!

 

[blue4167]

Can anyone else who has LEDs in and had the recall done confirm this?....the truck indicates to the driver that there is a bulb out, but the actual signals flash like normal? the... "Here is the real "kicker to this whole situation. The turn signals indicators on the dash hyper blink, but NOT the actual turn signals!"

If that is the case, to me at least, I could put up with the hyperflash ticking in the truck, if the signals to everyone else is still normal pace. I would not be able to stand the hyperflashing lights to everyone else because whenever I see a driver with it (without LEDs), I assume they have no idea why its flashing quick and have no idea about how to maintain their vehicle. The ones with LEDs I assume just had no idea about canbus or load resistors and figured just put an LED in and itll work.

I am also waiting to see those who are more experienced with Forscan to see where the setting would be to remove the bulb out notification (assuming the bulbs still flash the same pace and not hyperflash). Or if there are other options in Forscan to fix this issue.

But there may be an option to tell the truck there are LED signals in...such as this post about the 2020-21 transit forums I came across.
https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/2021-forscan-bulb-turn-outage-vs-led-turn-outage.86923/

Either way, if more people can confirm that after the turn signal recall with LEDs, if the truck actually hyperflashes the lights or just a driver indicator inside hyperflashing, along with if someone more experienced with Forscan can look into this issue more, would be great!!

On mine the light blink speed is normal, but the dash indicator is hyper flashing.

 

[dusty1787]

On mine the light blink speed is normal, but the dash indicator is hyper flashing.

Thank you for that update. I have not had mine done yet as I am just going to wait until my first oil change at my dealership (in just under a month) and ask before hand to make sure they have whatever is needed for the recall and have it done at the same time.

But having the LEDs in and hearing about the hyperflash, made me slighly upset about either having to deal with hyperflashing lights or put old bulbs back in.

But you being the second to confirm that post recall and LEDs, that the exterior lights flash like normal, but inside it hyperflashes, I could live with that until some possibly Forscan solution (or different style LEDs, or other LED based solution/fix) appears.

 

[mattjenny526]

I just had the recall update done yesterday and now have hyper flash on the dash, but turn signals are normal on the truck. No issues with Lasfits causing hyper flash prior to the update.
Hopefully some fix in the future.

 

[First Sergeant]

Been lurking on this site for several months no and this is first post. Got our 2023 XLT Hybrid in early October and have done many mods. The first was the complete kit from Lasfit, including switchback on the fronts. Had the 23C41 update (turn signal) performed by mobile Ford guy. The LED's were installed and had been working fine until the update. Same problem as everyone else now, outside flash is normal, inside on dash is hyper flashing. Called Ford and they of course had never heard of this happening. That said, my truck was the first Maverick they have worked on. This dealer is close to my house (two miles) and is not the dealer we bought the vehicle from. That dealer is about 35 miles out. Have contacted both and they want to talk with the big Ford people. Am waiting on calls back. As an experiment I went around and changed out bulbs. When all original bulbs are back in, no issues. The only way I can stay away from hyper flash dash is to have switchbacks installed in front and the four factory bulbs in the rear. The minute I change the rears back to LED's, even just one bulb, the flash comes back. Thanks to all of you on here for the great information, especially the mods. I have performed a LOT of them. May have to come out of retirement to pay for some more! Will keep everyone informed if I hear back on our turn signal issues.

 

[wb5oxq]

So my son and I both installed LASFIT LED bulb packages in our Mavericks, (his 2022 EB AWD XLT Lux, mine 2023 Hybrid XLT Lux). He had his serpentine belt replaced under warranty, and they did the Turn Signal update, now he has Hyper-Flash. Anyone else experience this?

I am NOT taking my truck to the local Ford dealer for anything other than a major problem that is under warranty. I tried to take it for a problem with software in the radio and was told I would have to leave it for 2 days with no loaner. I said I will come back in 2 days but they said no you have to get in line for 2 days and I cannot do that.

 

[Noofis12]

On mine the light blink speed is normal, but the dash indicator is hyper flashing.

I have the newer upgraded version of the LASFIT front turn signals along with the rear brake and turn bulbs and no issues at all before the update. After the update they hyperflash on the dash but are actually blinking normal speed.

 

[Cubican]

Just had the recall done and same thing happen to it hyper flash on the dash but not the bulb

 

[Noofis12]

Had the turn signal recall completed today. I have just the front LASFIT LED turn signal bulbs but no hyper-flash problems today. I do have their newer version front bulbs though.

I have the newer LASFIT front bulbs and T2 rears and I have the hyperflash on the dash issues. Still blinking normal speed on the truck itself. Sounds like the rears might be the culprit for the issue

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