Any changes/updates to the 24MY Maverick?

[atomguy245]

My guess:

'24 AWD Hybrid
'25 AWD Plugin-Hybrid with batteries taking up some of the under back seat storage.

You can't expect Ford to put the bigger battery in a logical place like under the back seat. Expect Ford to raise the rear floor and screw up the legroom, or put it under the bed by adding an odd hump in the bed floor. I refer you to the odd placement of the battery in the Ford C-Max

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[atomguy245]

I don't see that happening. Hybrid with a sport exhaust note would not be a sporty experience.

I've passed plenty of CVT equipped cars with fart can exhausts. They all sound like dying cows as they pass by. Horrible lol

 

[Bodageta]

All,

I assume the answer will be "none" or "no changes" but I just wanted to throw out the question of if there is going to be any changes to the 24MY Maverick that anyone has happened to hear via rumor or reliable source?

Mainly as I am 90% confident I will not be getting my 23MY due to dealership allocation issues, I will be lined up for the 24MY (which the dealership told me I would be a low priority number then (assuming a 10)) and I have no issues waiting for the 24MY as my current vehicle is in ok shape. But I started to think about the fact that July is just over a couple months away and not sure if there are any tweaks or changes or even upgrades to the model or not (or even things being removed....such as the modem).

I am not expecting a refresh or big changes (that is speculated to be 27/28MY) but maybe fog lights, or more interior color options, or other small things like that. For this year they brought the Tremor and BAP, so I dont see how something like a different color fabric or or adding fog lights would be too hard to do.

So if anyone has heard of anything or knows some things, please share the info. But again I just assume there will be no actual changes until the refresh happens. I am not asking what everyone would want changed or added/removed....just wanting to know if there has been any info about what is changing (if anything) for the 24MY.

Thanks all!

Logic would say they will release a plug in hybrid so people can cash in on a $7500 tax rebate

 

[paneubert]

Logic would say they will release a plug in hybrid so people can cash in on a $7500 tax rebate

Not really, since they have no trouble selling 100% of what they can produce now. Ford doesn't need to cater to what has a federal rebate in order to bump up sales.

 

[Bodageta]

Not really, since they have no trouble selling 100% of what they can produce now. Ford doesn't need to cater to what has a federal rebate in order to bump up sales.

I disagree because they can probably increase the price by much more that $7500 because if you subtract $7500 it’s not that much more to the buyer. So there is a good chance with the Gov subsidy they can bump up the price enough to greatly increase profit margin.

 

[BradnChristine]

My only comment on the opening of order banks is to PAY ATTENTION to what you order.

Ford changed enough things in the packages from 2022 to 2023 that MANY folks seem to have missed out on getting what they wanted...specifically Rear Parking Sensors and Adaptive Cruise Control...since Ford pulled them out of the Lariat Lux Package and made up a new 360 Assist package that was missed by quite a few, judging from what I've seen. So I expect Ford will screw with the 2024 option packages, too.

In my 2023, Ford changed the name of the 2 Bed Rails and 2 Cleats to 6 D-Link Bed Connectors on my Window sticker at $225. I missed understanding that and I would have removed it if I knew what it was. But I'm using them now.

 

[TheSEARCH]

I disagree because they can probably increase the price by much more that $7500 because if you subtract $7500 it’s not that much more to the buyer. So there is a good chance with the Gov subsidy they can bump up the price enough to greatly increase profit margin.

A plug in would for sure raise the price maybe by as much as 7 grand BUT I can't see a 14 grand increase. So not really much more profit as 7 grand is closer to cost. Going from a 1.1 KW battery to say a 25 KW battery is very costly. Plus not sure any bigger motors would be needed but for sure the (speed control) would be. Not sure what they call that controls battery power I guess Speed Control as that is what its called in radio controlled battery planes I fly. They generate heat and need cooling too. So maybe more cooling of some kind. I don't think its as simple as throwing a bigger battery into the Mav.

 

[npaladin2000]

My guess:

'24 AWD Hybrid
'25 AWD Plugin-Hybrid with batteries taking up some of the under back seat storage.

Hoping for both in '24 myself, but I'd take the AWD HEV I guess. Wife got the FWD XLT...I like it but I'd want AWD and a larger infotainment screen.

 

[Jakb]

I hope they don't change anything, this is supposed to be a cheap economy car, lets not make it the next vehicle with a starting price of over $40k because people need niceties. If anything Ford should start taking things off the Maverick, start by giving the XL crank windows and go from there until we get under $20k again.

I am hoping they do this, but have little faith they will. The margins are already slim and i can't see them stripping out all the bells.

Crank windows, manual locks, no sensors, boring radio, no driving modes, simple speedo, etc. All these are great but i really don't see Ford deciding to "compromise" so much on the fancy bits. They probably don't cost that much as a whole so it likely wouldn't drop more than $1000 off.

 

[Automate]

A plug in would for sure raise the price maybe by as much as 7 grand BUT I can't see a 14 grand increase. So not really much more profit as 7 grand is closer to cost. Going from a 1.1 KW battery to say a 25 KW battery is very costly. Plus not sure any bigger motors would be needed but for sure the (speed control) would be. Not sure what they call that controls battery power I guess Speed Control as that is what its called in radio controlled battery planes I fly. They generate heat and need cooling too. So maybe more cooling of some kind. I don't think its as simple as throwing a bigger battery into the Mav.

I think you are missing the point. Ford could increase the price of a plugin hybrid by say $13,000 over a standard hybrid. Ford can make extra money at that margin. The customer gets the $7,500 federal tax credit and maybe some more state credits. So they are only paying $5,500 or less over a non plugin-hybrid.

Most of the hard work is already done since Ford has the eCVT plugin hybrid design from the Escape. And the battery is only 14.4 kWh, not 25kW as you mention.

 

[Shay]

Ford seems to be on a 3-year cycle for refreshes. I would be surprised if any big moves are made for 2024 model year. My gut feeling is that we may see a new trim grade or appearance package, perhaps trim/packaging revisions that won't cause them much brain damage in the area of being able to meet demand. I would be shocked given the current state of production and demand if there were any significant additional powertrain offerings.

That said, a couple things in response to what I have read:

PHEV: The Maverick hybrid floorboard is already designed to accept the same PHEV battery pack used in the Escape PHEV. Building a Maverick PHEV is as simple as building it with existing parts off the rack. The question is will/would they given the 4-5k minimum price bump. The Escape PHEV is at the top of the scale, the most expensive model offered. They are almost always instantly sold out. If you think the Maverick Hybrid is a tough vehicle to get your hands on, a PHEV will be even worse. Maybe they will, but I doubt a big rollout like that for the 24 model year.

Colors: Anything that clashes with a blue interior will not be offered until a blue interior no longer exists. That is why we don't/won't see a lot of greens and other earth tones in the color palette.

2.0 EcoBoost Hybrid: For down the road like 25 model year and beyond...... Ford just unveiled for the Chinese market Edge and the global Lincoln Nautilus (imported from China) a new 2.0-liter EcoBoost Hybrid AWD powertrain combination that offers 310 horsepower. This uses essentially the exact same hybrid transmission/motors as the current 2.5-liter powertrain but has the 2.0 EcoBoost instead. I could see where a powertrain combination (North American sourced) such as this could make sense as an option for a Maverick as a range topping engine for top trim grades or an ST/ST-Line.

 

[TheSEARCH]

I think you are missing the point. Ford could increase the price of a plugin hybrid by say $13,000 over a standard hybrid. Ford can make extra money at that margin. The customer gets the $7,500 federal tax credit and maybe some more state credits. So they are only paying $5,500 or less over a non plugin-hybrid.

Most of the hard work is already done since Ford has the eCVT plugin hybrid design from the Escape. And the battery is only 14.4 kWh, not 25kW as you mention.

I guessed at battery size. But I get your point. To me its not worth the higher price. . Some might not agree. Some math at 3.5 a gal thats about 1571 gallons of gas at 39 mpg thats about 61000 miles. Are you going to travel 61000 miles all EV plug in. Maybe, not me. Plus that 61000 mile isn't free. Not sure the equivalent cost may be equal to 90 mpg? Just a guess. So is it really worth it. Plus if the battery does fail as it does happen that 14.4 watt battery will be a lot more money than a 1.1 watt one. But if they build one then let the buyers decide if they want it. I would not myself.

 

[TheSEARCH]

Ford seems to be on a 3-year cycle for refreshes. I would be surprised if any big moves are made for 2024 model year. My gut feeling is that we may see a new trim grade or appearance package, perhaps trim/packaging revisions that won't cause them much brain damage in the area of being able to meet demand. I would be shocked given the current state of production and demand if there were any significant additional powertrain offerings.

That said, a couple things in response to what I have read:

PHEV: The Maverick hybrid floorboard is already designed to accept the same PHEV battery pack used in the Escape PHEV. Building a Maverick PHEV is as simple as building it with existing parts off the rack. The question is will/would they given the 4-5k minimum price bump. The Escape PHEV is at the top of the scale, the most expensive model offered. They are almost always instantly sold out. If you think the Maverick Hybrid is a tough vehicle to get your hands on, a PHEV will be even worse. Maybe they will, but I doubt a big rollout like that for the 24 model year.

Colors: Anything that clashes with a blue interior will not be offered until a blue interior no longer exists. That is why we don't/won't see a lot of greens and other earth tones in the color palette.

2.0 EcoBoost Hybrid: For down the road like 25 model year and beyond...... Ford just unveiled for the Chinese market Edge and the global Lincoln Nautilus (imported from China) a new 2.0-liter EcoBoost Hybrid AWD powertrain combination that offers 310 horsepower. This uses essentially the exact same hybrid transmission/motors as the current 2.5-liter powertrain but has the 2.0 EcoBoost instead. I could see where a powertrain combination (North American sourced) such as this could make sense as an option for a Maverick as a range topping engine for top trim grades or an ST/ST-Line.

Drop the atkinson cycle engine. I doubt it. Atkinson cycle while less power per size gets better MPG Hybrids are about MPG not power. Hence you get non hybrid 2.0 turbo if you want power.

 

[Automate]

I guessed at battery size. But I get your point. To me its not worth the higher price. . Some might not agree. Some math at 3.5 a gal thats about 1571 gallons of gas at 39 mpg thats about 61000 miles. Are you going to travel 61000 miles all EV plug in. Maybe, not me. Plus that 61000 mile isn't free. Not sure the equivalent cost may be equal to 90 mpg? Just a guess. So is it really worth it. Plus if the battery does fail as it does happen that 14.4 watt battery will be a lot more money than a 1.1 watt one. But if they build one then let the buyers decide if they want it. I would not myself.

I just guessed at the $13Kprice increase. Who knows what it would actually be. Since I live in a state that does not have state credits, I might not at that price either. But California provides up to $6,500 credit for PHEV. So a PHEV might end up actually cheaper than a plain hybrid.

 

[Shay]

Drop the atkinson cycle engine. I doubt it. Atkinson cycle while less power per size gets better MPG Hybrids are about MPG not power. Hence you get non hybrid 2.0 turbo if you want power.

No. It's not about giving up the 2.5 Hybrid - it would remain at the entry point.

The new 2.0 EcoBoost Hybrid was engineered as a top power option above the 2.0 EcoBoost gas - why it has more horsepower. If Ford were to offer it in a North American Maverick, Escape or Bronco Sport (which is anyone's guess) it would be a top power option above the existing 2.5 HEV/PHEV and the 2.0 EcoBoost.

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