Elephant in room: Around 80% of orders are Hybrids.

[MLowe05]

As I've retold many times here, I bought an XL EB and put 2,000 miles on it. I found it a very likable truck and enjoyed every mile.

I would not buy an EB Maverick to keep, however. The real appeal of the Maverick is in the hybrid - that is the one that is unique. If I were going to buy a non-hybrid truck there are many other options.

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[Blue&SilverBear]

I also wonder how people even knew the order window was opening since the dealers i called did not know until well after it was announced on here.

Still having a hard time believing there were 100k people waiting to put orders in on the first couple of days. Wonder if we are over estimating the orders due to a lot of dealers not entering any.

I really think the average American doesn't even know the Maverick exists at all. My parents and neighbors sure didn't. Even if they knew about it, the casually interested person who would buy off the lot never had a clue that they had to order, much less when the order banks opened.

 

[Impetus19]

You could order a base ranger which is what 26.4K + destination for 2023? But if you want the supercab that's 30k+ destination from what i can tell. So the maverick is a deal in comparison

 

[Impetus19]

I really think the average American doesn't even know the Maverick exists at all. My parents and neighbors sure didn't. Even if they knew about it, the casually interested person who would buy off the lot never had a clue that they had to order, much less when the order banks opened.

My dad said he heard of it because Jim Cramer from Mad Money ordered one. Which i found comical.

 

[sanpablo]

I'm starting to second guess my initial assumption that Ford took in over 100k 2023 Maverick orders...

If you check out the order tracker on this forum, we are tracking ~7,000 2022 Orders and only a little over 500 2023 orders (with several usernames showing multiple 2023 orders).

At 7,000 2022 orders, that's roughly 6% of overall 2022 production. Only tracking 500 2023 orders at this point either means we are somehow a much smaller sample (likely not even 1%), or Ford didn't really take that many orders before shutting things down... I expect more orders to go into that tracker as time goes, but we're not tracking anywhere close to 2022 numbers at this point. At the same time, LM alone took in more 2023 orders than this forum is tracking, so I dunno lol

Oh, common, this is getting ridiculous now!

 

[KFBR392]

As I've retold many times here, I bought an XL EB and put 2,000 miles on it. I found it a very likable truck and enjoyed every mile.

I would not buy an EB Maverick to keep, however. The real appeal of the Maverick is in the hybrid - that is the one that is unique. If I were going to buy a non-hybrid truck there are many other options.

The fuel mileage isn’t much better than other options that are either real trucks or are more capable. Hybrid is where the Maverick can define an entirely new market and reach a completely new buyer. Like me, who doesn’t care about trucks and has never wanted one because I don’t care about towing and have no interested in bad fuel mileage, but need a large amount of cargo space. Only one vehicle does that.

 

[Barracuda340]

100%.

I will never tow, never off-road, and I have no need for AWD. I've also owned my share of performance vehicles, and the Maverick is not one in any way, shape, or form regardless of the trim/engine/drivetrain.

After selling both our Mercedes and our Porsche in 2020, I wanted to go to something no more than half the price of those two, fuel efficient, and utilitarian for a change. I didn't even know the Maverick was a thing. Now here I am having waited nearly a year for it.

You said in a previous post that the maverick is not or will ever be a performance vehicle. Well I beg to differ. It may not be as fast as a porsche, but it can be made into a hot performer. I dont just go out and buy a fast vehicle. I start with the right mechanical foundation, and build or mod my own.

Theres guys modding and tweaking the 2.0 eco and pushing them to about 300hp along with 13.6 quarter mile times at 98mph When you soup up the engine, then add sport springs, a beefier rear sway bar, a strut brace, and wider more aggressive tires and lighter rims, to now make it go around the corners better, who says it's not like a sports car wrapped in a truck body?

I cant wait to get one of my 2 barracudas done. Both are going to "appear" stock but with modifications for handling, acceleration and braking a lot better than those cars had a right to have.

Do you work on your vehicles? Or is it always trips to the dealer for simple mtx and upkeep? I would imagine with a porsche, its all dealer trips. I have had my hands deep into everything I have ever owned. Engine and transmission rebuilds are nothing for me. Ditto for sheetmetal fabrication and repair.

Point is, a maverick AWD turbo can most certainly be made to go fast, and handle. I am betting brembo brake upgrades off the Focus RS are a direct bolt on. If it can handle, brake, and accelerate like a sports car, then who cares if it's got 4 doors and a truck bed. I know I dont.

 

[MLowe05]

You said in a previous post that the maverick is not or will ever be a performance vehicle. Well I beg to differ. It may not be as fast as a porsche, but it can be made into a hot performer. I dont just go out and buy a fast vehicle. I start with the right mechanical foundation, and build or mod my own.

Theres guys modding and tweaking the 2.0 eco and pushing them to about 300hp along with 13.6 quarter mile times at 98mph When you soup up the engine, then add sport springs, a beefier rear sway bar, a strut brace, and wider more aggressive tires and lighter rims, to now make it go around the corners better, who says it's not a sports car wrapped in a truck body?

I cant wait to get one of my 2 barracudas done. Both are going to "appear" stock but with modifications for handling, acceleration and braking a lot better than those cars had a right to have.

Do you work on your vehicles? Or is it always trips to the dealer for simple mtx and upkeep? I would imagine with a porsche, its all dealer trips. I have had my hands deep into everything I have ever owned. Engine and transmission rebuilds are nothing for me. Ditto for sheetmetal fabrication and repair.

Point is, a maverick AWD turbo can most certainly be made to go fast, and handle. I am betting brembo brake upgrades off the Focus RS are a direct bolt on. If it can handle, brake, and accelerate like a sports car, then who cares if it's got 4 doors and a truck bed. I know I dont.

Sorry, you're saying that the right mechanical foundation is a FWD architecture, parts-bin special budget truck? Not like.. a Miata or something? By its very design it is the antithesis of a sports car. Even the quarter mile times you posted are fairly average today. A 2.0T Honda Accord will crack 100mph in the quarter mile.

No, I don't work on my own cars. I admire those who do, but I have neither the time nor the ability. We very, very seldom own cars past the warranty period so mechanical repairs are just not a thing for us. Porsche dealers in Atlanta charge some $1400 for basic services, so basic maintenance was always handled by independent German specialists. Mercedes was much more reasonable at the dealer level but we are fortunate to have a brilliant specialist locally who handled all basic maintenance.

I can tell you that the Focus RS Brembos are not a direct bolt on. The Maverick is never, ever going to perform like a real sports car. I find it hard to believe any real petrolhead would actually be saying this at all. I'm not knocking the Maverick - even with the cars I've owned, here I am waiting a year for a Maverick Hybrid. It's an impressive vehicle for what it is - and for what it is, I respect it greatly. But I know what it is not, and it is not and never will be a performance machine.

 

[KFBR392]

You said in a previous post that the maverick is not or will ever be a performance vehicle. Well I beg to differ. It may not be as fast as a porsche, but it can be made into a hot performer. I dont just go out and buy a fast vehicle. I start with the right mechanical foundation, and build or mod my own.

Theres guys modding and tweaking the 2.0 eco and pushing them to about 300hp along with 13.6 quarter mile times at 98mph When you soup up the engine, then add sport springs, a beefier rear sway bar, a strut brace, and wider more aggressive tires and lighter rims, to now make it go around the corners better, who says it's not a sports car wrapped in a truck body?

I cant wait to get one of my 2 barracudas done. Both are going to "appear" stock but with modifications for handling, acceleration and braking a lot better than those cars had a right to have.

Do you work on your vehicles? Or is it always trips to the dealer for simple mtx and upkeep? I would imagine with a porsche, its all dealer trips. I have had my hands deep into everything I have ever owned. Engine and transmission rebuilds are nothing for me. Ditto for sheetmetal fabrication and repair.

Point is, a maverick AWD turbo can most certainly be made to go fast, and handle. I am betting brembo brake upgrades off the Focus RS are a direct bolt on. If it can handle, brake, and accelerate like a sports car, then who cares if it's got 4 doors and a truck bed. I know I dont.

By the time people get done with modifying a Maverick only to be a fatter, less agile, poorer-driving Miata, it will look completely ridiculous. Because anybody who chooses this as a platform for that kind of build inherently has questionable taste.

(I’m just busting balls here and have no issues with anybody modifying their cars, but also it will happen and it’ll probably look stupid 90% of the time).

 

[Barracuda340]

I think you missed my point. There is room for a lot of improvement to make a maverick faster, handle better and be more fun to drive essentially "hot rodding" it.

I own a 94 Chevy C1500 std cab long bed. 350 V8 5 speed, with 3.66 gear and a locker. I bought it brand new special order with that combo. It's been dropped, everything underneath is all polyurethane bushed, I have a 1" rear sway bar on it, wider BFG rubber on wider rims than stock, a faster ratio steering box, upgraded steering shaft with universal joints to eliminate the steering slop, and nitrogen shocks. Engine has been worked over, trans has a Hurst shifter. I'm thinking an LS swap is in its future.

Is it a sports car? No its not. But it handles and runs 100× better than the the factory thought it should. That is the essence of hot rodding. Making what you have better than it came. Ditto for this Maverick. The plan is to make it faster, handle better, and brake better than stock. Give me a more fun driving experience. To that end I had to start with certain options.

BTW Subarus are essentially a FWD setup with a jack shaft coming out of a FWD oriented transaxle, going to a rear differential. Very similar to the mavericks drivetrain setup. A Subaru WRX STi is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[sprubs]

I have not heard anyone describe subaru awd as "essentially a FWD system". They don't even make FWD vehicles. Their designs are all (except for BRZ) meant to be AWD from the start and having driven various FWD vehicles and then a Subaru in the Northeast I can tell you they work very well.

No hate on modding your vehicles though. Do what you like and have fun

 

[Ninelives17]

BTW Subarus are essentially a FWD setup with a jack shaft coming out of a FWD oriented transaxle, going to a rear differential. Very similar to the mavericks drivetrain setup. A Subaru WRX STi is nothing to sneeze at.

This is not True, my current car is a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon. It puts 320 HP and 340 TQ to the wheels through a 5 speed Manual transmission. Awesome car and the trans sits behind the engine like a RWD not beside it like a FWD.

 

[MAVornoMavisthequestion]

Can't wait until Toyota takes Ford's lunch. This is coming from someone who ordered 2 maverick's for my family.

Until competitors join the market and Ford bleeds profit on these models. Nothing will change. Bronco and Maverick seem harder to get than a Ferrari or lambo these days. Shame on Ford. Enough with excuses.

 

[sprubs]

Can't wait until Toyota takes Ford's lunch. This is coming from someone who ordered 2 maverick's for my family.

Until competitors join the market and Ford bleeds profit on these models. Nothing will change. Bronco and Maverick seem harder to get than a Ferrari or lambo these days. Shame on Ford. Enough with excuses.

yeah, something based on a rav4 hybrid could work.

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