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Mileage for 1st oil change for Hybrid?

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He should have said that it prevents unnecessary oil changes by people who know they aren't smarter than the engineers. Those who do cannot be prevented from changing it far more frequently than needed, thus wasting their money and time.
I'm neither wasting my time or my money by changing my oil and original factory small oil filter at 5000 miles..... Why exactly does that hurt your feelings? LOL

You want to change your at 10k miles (or never)? I doubt anyone cares..

The difference is that that:
1) I will have a larger Motorcraft filter on my truck at 5000 miles and you will be using the factory small filter for 10k, a filter that will still contain all the break-in particulates
b) I will have cut my original filter open at 5k miles and know what going on inside my motor, you will not
3) I'll have fresh oil and additives in my motor at 5k miles and you will be recirculating the same stuff twice as long.

100k spark plugs? I never let them go past 40-50k on newer cars. I don't want to run a sparkplug 50%-100% worn for another 50k miles.

And the blower belts on my Viper and early GT350 are changed at 10k miles. My other NA fun cars get fresh oil and filter every year which is generally 1k miles. But that's just me....

Have your oil changed when you oil monitor reminds you to, you'll be just fine.

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Just Google Consumer Reports New York Taxis Oil Change study done back in 1996. For two years they changed 75 taxis at 3,000 miles and the others at 7,500 and found no statistical difference in wear and tear on engines that ran basically 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Change it whenever your want but I’ll just follow the engineers suggestions.
 

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Just saw this how-to video on Youtube with a guy who did his oil change at 2k miles. Some things to note:

1. How easy it is
2. How dark that oil is for 2k miles on a hybrid
3. How small the oil filter is from factory vs. the aftermarket filter



Up to you guys if you want to keep it running for the first oil change for 10k miles and are OK with the evidence provided in that video

Just Google Consumer Reports New York Taxis Oil Change study done back in 1996. For two years they changed 75 taxis at 3,000 miles and the others at 7,500 and found no statistical difference in wear and tear on engines that ran basically 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Change it whenever your want but I’ll just follow the engineers suggestions.
For subsequent oil changes, yes follow the maintenance changes. The very first oil change does have different conditions facing it while you break in that engine
 
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Just saw this how-to video on Youtube with a guy who did his oil change at 2k miles. Some things to note:

1. How easy it is
2. How dark that oil is for 2k miles on a hybrid
3. How small the oil filter is from factory vs. the aftermarket filter



Up to you guys if you want to keep it running for the first oil change for 10k miles and are OK with the evidence provided in that video



For subsequent oil changes, yes follow the maintenance changes. The very first oil change does have different conditions facing it while you break in that engine
I changed my oil at 2K miles on my XLT Hybrid. It was going in for the recall and I figured why not, it's there already. I'd rather spend a few extra dollars and have the peace of mind that IF there were any "break in" issues with the oil, I was proactive about it.
 

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I just followed the onboard computer prompts on the Honda Insight I traded in on the Maverick. Probably averaged about 12,000 miles for each oil change. That car ran great and got me 61 mpg over 87K miles of very relaxed driving. I may do my first change early on the Maverick. The only problem with the Insight was that it wasn't a truck.
 

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For the Hybrid owners, I'm curious at what KMs does your dealer want you to make your 1st oil change? 8000KM for me.


Edit: Should have included miles, 8000KM = 5000 Miles.
I change my 1st oil service at 3k miles. Get out any gasoline blowby and metallic particles then go 5k or 1 year on full synthetic oil. Wish the algorithm allowed ICE warmup at startup to avoid shock to a cold, uncirculated engine.
 

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I change my 1st oil service at 3k miles. Get out any gasoline blowby and metallic particles then go 5k or 1 year on full synthetic oil. Wish the algorithm allowed ICE warmup at startup to avoid shock to a cold, uncirculated engine.
I was thinking about this the other day re: the ICE warmup and I decided to let the air conditioning run for a bit b/c that does kick on the engine
 

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From what I've read and researched (though who knows how reliable the information sometimes), it's good to do the first oil change way earlier than the suggested interval changes. It's even worthwhile to consider doing an oil change shortly after the break in period (1000mile/1600km) because there are some changes there can be some metal debris/shavings from the pistons and other mechanisms settling and you don't want that circulating through the oil for too long.
I agree ^^^
 

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If you do your own oil changes check this out. I am in no way affiliated with penzoil, but its been very well rated by various independent labs and a few pretty good youtube channels (projectfarm is my favorite).

https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/prom...nal-promotion.html#iframe=L0RJWS9PMjIxN18yMi8

Ends up being about $3qt for full synthetic for 20 qts. I just went ahead and stocked up on it since my Maverick uses the same oil as my Rav4. Also purchased a dozen oil filters from walmart since they are only $4 for the motorcraft filters.
My brother and I both use Pennzoil Platinum.
My oil change indicator is running 2 to 3 thousand miles out verses the Ford oil from the factory. That Pennzoil Full synthetic is some good stuff!

Being that these are hybrid motors. The engine aren't exactly cooking the oil like the old school iron block engines. So changing the oil at 5000 miles is actually wasteful.

I'm doing almost 10,000 miles in an EB.
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