When are you doing your first Hybrid oil change?

[Bushpilot]

What's the fixation on oil filter size?

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[Hoagus]

In the past, my conventional thinking is do the first oil change at 500-1K miles to get rid of any manufacturing filings and what not. But I’m thinking I actually might wait until around 5K and gave it serviced by the dealer. This is based on @STARCOMMTREY1 commenting on his 1K oil change and the YouTube video showing clean oil at 5400 miles. It’s not really a cost consideration, it’s more a ‘does this really help any’. Not trying to waste oil, money for no reason.

What is everyone else thinking?

I don’t put many miles on, so probably after the first year.

 

[Hoagus]

Ford Boss Me on youtube just did a video on the Hybrid and he recommended the first change at 1000 mi with the subsequent OCI at 5000 mi. He is a Ford Master tech and has put out some real good videos pertaining to oil including lab analysis.

Seems like Ford would recommend this, but they don’t, even though they are responsible for warranty work. Do what it says in the manual. It’s not that complicated. Don’t overthink it.

 

[Hoagus]

What's the fixation on oil filter size?

Yes, just what is this fixation? The internet wants to know.

 

[Johnkn]

What's the fixation on oil filter size?

The factory filter is very small, about half the size and filtering capacity of the recommended Motorcraft 910s replacement.

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[MaverickTopGun]

Better filtering, better oil type, mag drain plugs, etc., are all optional. For anybody fretting about this, don't. It would be hard to destroy the engine before 100k miles even if you used the cheapest lowest-grade stuff around. It's only us Mechanical Engineers and enthusiasts who want to use the best. All others need not worry about it.

 

[Jay144]

I change the oil and filter in my vehicles every 3500 miles. I don't give a shit what the world says, this has worked well over the years.
The last 2 vehicles I had, bought new, were a 2007 Edge and a 2003 Grand Caravan. When I traded them in a year ago for the new Edge and Transit Connect, both of the old vehicles had 205,000 miles on them. Both of them ran like a Swiss watch...smooth and quiet.

I also change the oil and filter on a new vehicle after 1000 miles.
It's a cheap investment

 

[Bushpilot]

The factory filter is very small, about half the size and filtering capacity of the recommended Motorcraft 910s replacement.

I have opened and seen opened hundreds of used oil flters in my lifetime, both airplanes and cars. The only times I have seen filters whose holding capacity was used more than say 5% was on engines that were grinding themselves to pieces, and the oil filter was packed full of metal. In these cases the engine was already destroyed, and the filter only caught the evidence.

All that said, I will used the recommended filter. If it is larger, it is larger. In the mean time, no need to rush its change.

 

[MaverickTopGun]

All that said, I will used the recommended filter. If it is larger, it is larger. In the mean time, no need to rush its change.

The "recommended filter" is Motorcraft, owned, coincidentally, by Ford. Actually, the Maverick Owner's Manual, says we can use any "SAE/USCAR-36" spec oil filter. That is a relatively new, obscure spec nobody knows about! Any big name-brand oil filter will meet it. ( youtube can be searched for uscar-36 Ford )

Motorcraft (MC) has been made by Purolator for years, and both oil filters have had a reputation for failing filter media, as in getting a hole in it, allowing unfiltered oil thru. It is a long story how this evidence was gathered and analyzed (don't ask....) over time, but you can google:
Motorcraft oil filter tears ford admitting
... if you really want to dig into this serious quality issue.

Fortunately, there is Fram Ultra XG3600, Royal Purple oil filters, Mobil1 oil filters, Amsoil oil filters, Wix is decent too. Those are the top ones. At least get an FL400S cross-reference in those brands to get an oversized oil filter, capturing more dirt & having a slower flow speed than smaller filters for lower micron filtering.

 

[Milous]

The original oil is not Synthetic for a reason, if you switch to Synthetic to early (before the rings are fully seated) you could, end up with an engine that uses oil.

You can switch to synthetic at ANY mileage with no adverse effects.

 

[sjdmav11/5/21]

You can switch to synthetic at ANY mileage with no adverse effects.

Drive it until it drops. True story. I know a dude who drove a car for 300,000 miles and NEVER changed the oil or filter. Just topped off the oil when it was low. What do you think about that?

 

[rmay635703]

Drive it until it drops. True story. I know a dude who drove a car for 300,000 miles and NEVER changed the oil or filter. Just topped off the oil when it was low. What do you think about that?

Was it a dodge 5.2 or a Ford inline 6?

The 2.2 Found in some Saturns and Chevies were that way if you didn’t mind the racket

 

[fbov]

All others need not worry about it.

For those that do... using the stock filter and listening only to the Escape's OLM (after an initial change at 5K miles), used oil analysis said to leave it in after 17.4K miles (9.3K ICE miles). It looks better than what came out of the C-Max, at 10K vehicle miles.

Anyone using 1950's oil change intervals needs to give up their keys. This isn't SA-rated motor oil.

 

[Vols44]

From the Ranger forums they say the factory oil fills have a special formula for break-in period. I waited 5k before changing it. Really clean still then.. I’m old school and was going to do at 500 miles but I waited..

your choice.

TIL about special factory oil for the break in period. I haven't prematurely changed oil in a new vehicle so I'll let Ford's Intelligent Oil-Life Monitoring System do it's job.

My future hybrid won't have the heavy use oil consumption problems of larger engines stressed under 4K (or more) loads.

 

[Mymaverick2021]

Seems like Ford would recommend this, but they don’t, even though they are responsible for warranty work. Do what it says in the manual. It’s not that complicated. Don’t overthink it.

I agree Ford recommends the oil change range from 7500/10,000 miles for the Hybrid with Synthetic oil. So I will be doing my 1st around 8000 splitting the difference, I don't tow anything and drive like a little old lady!

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