Stop stressing. Just drive your Maverick and enjoy 😅

[Darryl]

It's been awhile since I gapped the points.

The only thing I really miss is the styling of the old cars.

Whenever I need a feeler gauge for anything at my job, I usually end up buying another one because I use it so infrequently, it gets lost among my junk. . But I remember when using a feeler gauge was a regular thing. Six-cylinder Fords gapped ar 0.020

I'm only stressing over the fact that my Lariat has not been delivered yet

Now that's something worth stressing about

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[Darryl]

Maybe for the hybrid?

Whatever the normal interval is is the recommendation for the 1st oil change as well. I think.

 

[Darryl]

In those days anything over 50k was considered a junker and sold cheap. I also remember those good old tires Dad put on 2 to 3 times a year and got 15 to 20k out of them. SO in your experience every used car back in the day had the odometer rolled back. Think before answering because everything you say can be used against you . Not to mention if a dealer got caught it was prison time. local Ford dealer got caught rolling them back and he and his 2 sons went to prison. That was in 71 or 72.

I remember when a friend who extended his warranty by disconnecting his speedometer when he drove around town and only connecting it when driving out of town and he needed to keep track of his speed. It was also not unheard-of for people to disconnect the speedometer on a rental car to avoid paying that 5 cents per mile charge.

 

[Tim d]

That would make me Plum Crazy! Did I get the color right?
[/QQUOTE. Close, it's inviolet because it's a Plymouth. If it was a dodge it would be plum crazy, even though it's the same color lol.

 

[dochawk]

Didn’t used to have a stigma attached to needing to add a quart of oil every so often between oil changes

go back farther, and the specifications for the car included anticipated oil and water consumption.

in the range of a quart of each every hundred miles or so in the 20s, iirc.

 

[Escapologist]

And you didn't mind a little seepage from cork or fibre gaskets or block porosity, because it was self renewing oilspray for the chassis.

 

[23grayXLT84]

I bet 90% of buyers are new to hybrids so makes sense that most are nervous even though there is a decent 8/100k warranty.

If it was a Toyota hybrid, almost none would stress.

 

[sprubs]

Def enjoy driving my mav.

 

[grandpa_disney]

I've been a part of this group since may when I purchased my Maverick. And I'm convinced that some people worry unnecessarily and figure they NEED to find something to stress over. The truth is that Modern vehicles simply don't need us to constantly maintain and baby them. It's not 1990 anymore . Check you oil and coolant level regularly and change it as recommended by Ford or a bit earlier. Keep your tires inflated, inspect brakes when you rotate your tires. You can generally follow the maintenance schedule based on your use as given in the owners guide. Your Maverick will be just fine. If you need to constantly tinker under the hood of your vehicle, buy and old car. As for your maverick Ride and Enjoy

Yup. Just got back from a Trip around the Olympic Peninsula here in Washington State in my 24 XLT Hybrid. Averaged over 45 MPG. Had many sideways glances from other PU drivers deep in Timber Country! Very much a a pleasure to drive. A truly great road tripping machine!

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Nostalgia time. I’m of a certain age so will go back even farther into the ‘60’s and 70’s and my ‘full service gas station’ (remember those?) work days. It’s necessary to have a frame of reference to fully appreciate how good we have it regards changes that have occurred, improvements made over the years.

Didn’t used to have a stigma attached to needing to add a quart of oil every so often between oil changes (20w or 30w conventional usually – multigrades available but not in widespread use like today). Plenty of ‘50s cars still on the road in the 60’s (many that had received engine rebuilds by the ‘60s, no real stigma attached to that either) with down-draft tube crankcase ventilation systems. Worked on a number of them.

Typical OM recommended maintenance for 50’s vintage cars (still have my family’s 1955 Chevy Bel-air OM) – clean and repack wheel bearings every ~10k miles, OCI every ~2-3k miles (change the oil filer IF it had one), A/T fluid change/refill every ~25k miles, check rear axle lub every ~1k miles, disassemble propeller shaft u-joints every ~25k miles and clean/repack with wheel bearing lub, refill fill generator (not alternator) oiler every 1k miles, service oil bath (not paper element) air cleaner every ~2k miles, remove/inspect/re-gap or replace spark plugs every ~5k miles, suspension/chassis lub (remember zerk fittings?) every ~1k miles, drain and flush radiator twice a year, tune-ups (remember those?) every ~10k miles – you get the idea.

Warranty from GM for that ’55 Bel-air? 90 days or 4000 miles, whichever came first.

Our ’65 Malibu was way ‘better’ – I think 24 months or 24k miles warranty. Longer OM recommended service intervals. Drain and flush cooling system every 2 years. OCI – every 60 days or 6k miles (more frequent under ‘dusty’ conditions). Engine tune-up every 12k miles. A/T fluid change every 12k miles (went backwards on this one – industry got smarter on A/T fluid). Lub suspension/steering zerk fittings every 6k miles.

A/C not that common, was an option, as was an am/fm radio. Most cars used ‘460 Air’ (4 windows down, 60 mph).

Recalls? In late 1960’s, NHTSA (or whatever it was called then) established. Oldest recorded recall in the US for 1959-60 Cadillacs (steering linkage failed on many cars while making a 90 degree turn at 10/15 mph, yikes). TSB database? Ha ha, good luck with that in the 60’s/70’s.

Before the 1973 oil crisis, gas prices below $0.40/gal, in 1976 had ‘skyrocketed’ to around $0.60/gal. My first brand new vehicle purchase – a ‘loaded’ (AC! Radio! Cruise! HD springs!) 1976 GMC ½ ton PU truck for ~$6500. On a good day got 12 mpg.

So it’s all relative. We’ve got it good.

So true, even looking at the 90s. The 90s Toyotas and Honda's my family owned were pieces of junk compared to our 2017 explorer. By the time our Toyota Tercel was about 2 years old, the seat covers had ripped open, and the foam was coming out. I remember being able to feel when I sat directly on the frame and how uncomfortable it was.

The black body cladding and headliner started falling apart not much later. The entire interior and exterior trim basically coming apart and falling off within a few years. You don't see anything like that today.

Then there's the engine, despite people saying how unkillable Toyotas are, our Tercel only made it until about 100k miles before the head gasket went, I believe the block also cracked. Apparently this was a common issue for Toyotas from this era, especially the Tercel.

By comparison, our 2017 explorer is turning 10 next year and... literally nothing. Not a single part has broken. I'm gonna replace the original tires in a few months, and I had to put in a new battery a few years ago, but that's it. The car still looks new, it still drives like a car with a lot of life left in it.

Modern cars are great. My parents back in the 80s owned multiple Ford's, a Tarus and a fiesta, as well as multiple Sentras, a civic, and a BMW. They were lucky if any of those cars lasted longer than a year without stranding them on the side of the road. The Honda blew its motor literally 2 days into ownership, and stranded my dad by himself in the middle of the Nevada desert pre cell phone. He had to get the shit box towed to salt lake and then he immediately sold it. His first, and last, Honda.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

In those days anything over 50k was considered a junker and sold cheap. I also remember those good old tires Dad put on 2 to 3 times a year and got 15 to 20k out of them. SO in your experience every used car back in the day had the odometer rolled back. Think before answering because everything you say can be used against you . Not to mention if a dealer got caught it was prison time. local Ford dealer got caught rolling them back and he and his 2 sons went to prison. That was in 71 or 72.

I would Love to Have a 70-71 2 door Torino Today!! Back in the Late 80's early 90's a Work Friend and the Neighbor both had 71 IIRC Torinos one was a Cobra and the other one was a GT both were clean cars the GT IIRC was from North, Carolina and both were 4V 351 Cleveland Powered with Shaker Hoods!!

 

[Darryl]

I bet 90% of buyers are new to hybrids so makes sense that most are nervous even though there is a decent 8/100k warranty.

If it was a Toyota hybrid, almost none would stress.

That's partly true. But some folks just stress and over-maintain every vehicle they own no matter the brand. . They change fluids much more often than necessary, re-tighten factory fittings thinking they're too loose, measure how much oil they drained from a component that didn't need to be serviced in the first place assuming it would have grenaded itself had they not intervened when they did, use only this or that brand of gasoline, oil, fluid, , replace clamps that aren't leaking because they don't trust the original, obsess over every noise even though it's normal for that vehicle because "a car shouldn't sound like that" , worry because this component (such as a compressor) "runs too much" etc. And at the end of the day, the vehicle lasts just as long for the owner who simply drives normally, and maintains their vehicle according to factory recommendation and just lets the vehicle operate as designed . The difference is that they spend less unnecessary money and end up stressing a lot less.

 

[Darryl]

go back farther, and the specifications for the car included anticipated oil and water consumption.

in the range of a quart of each every hundred miles or so in the 20s, iirc.

As late as the late 1970's it wasn't considered excessive oil consumption requiring repair unless it was greater than 1 qt/500 miles. The owner manual stated to check the oil every fill up. Today Ford will allow us to repair an engine if it's greater than 1 qt/3000. And most people have the EXPECTATION that they will not have to add ANY oil between oil changes. The owner guide now just simply say to check oil periodically.

 

[Darryl]

So true, even looking at the 90s. The 90s Toyotas and Honda's my family owned were pieces of junk compared to our 2017 explorer. By the time our Toyota Tercel was about 2 years old, the seat covers had ripped open, and the foam was coming out. I remember being able to feel when I sat directly on the frame and how uncomfortable it was.

The black body cladding and headliner started falling apart not much later. The entire interior and exterior trim basically coming apart and falling off within a few years. You don't see anything like that today.

Then there's the engine, despite people saying how unkillable Toyotas are, our Tercel only made it until about 100k miles before the head gasket went, I believe the block also cracked. Apparently this was a common issue for Toyotas from this era, especially the Tercel.

By comparison, our 2017 explorer is turning 10 next year and... literally nothing. Not a single part has broken. I'm gonna replace the original tires in a few months, and I had to put in a new battery a few years ago, but that's it. The car still looks new, it still drives like a car with a lot of life left in it.

Modern cars are great. My parents back in the 80s owned multiple Ford's, a Tarus and a fiesta, as well as multiple Sentras, a civic, and a BMW. They were lucky if any of those cars lasted longer than a year without stranding them on the side of the road. The Honda blew its motor literally 2 days into ownership, and stranded my dad by himself in the middle of the Nevada desert pre cell phone. He had to get the shit box towed to salt lake and then he immediately sold it. His first, and last, Honda.

When a person took a long trip in as late as the 1970s, they commonly took some tools with them. If you made it on a trip of over 5 or 6 hundred miles without incident, it wasn't necessarily a surprise. But it was noteworthy enough to mention that you didn't "have a bit of trouble".

 

[pigsareus]

Remember odd/even rationing and 20 gallon limits? I haven't had a car with a tank that big in forever.

I remember the 60s at 19 cents a gallon and with a 10 gallon fillup you got to choose free gifts like a set of towels or glasses, a 8 pack of bottled soda (your choice of flavors), a flashlight or one of whatever else they were giving away . My dad couldn't wait to get back down to needing 10 gallons (which with a big old V8 engine meant about 100 miles!) so he could take mom back to the gas station to continue their 'collection'. The attendant rolling out that roll of greenbacks from the deep pockets of his overalls to give dad change was memorable - they seemed to be carting around at least 100 bucks worth of bills back then.

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