Is this the all Electric Maverick EV??

[HeyBales]

Why a transmission to start with if it's an EV rather than hybrid. Outside of some odd use cases, even a 2 speed isn't necessary on an electric.

My comment was about the video in the post - which was a PHEV in Australia.

Which was explained due to the ICE in it.

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[pigsareus]

Or you’ll buy when gas hits $8 a gallon, and it will one day.
The sky is falling the sky is falling ! :’P

not necessarily - today gas is about 3.12 a gallon avg nationwide, considering inflation over the last 4 years that totaled about 20 percent that means in 2021 dollars gas is actually about $2.50 a gallon now - there's also more oil being put on the market, it could very well be that due to increased production and less demand that the prices continue to stabilize or decrease over time.

 

[pigsareus]

This is why government mandates happen.

yeah - to drive us nuts.

 

[djpat]

As more and more EV's are being built and infrastructure for charging stations not quite keeping up yet (or as convenient as some need them to be), It would make sense to incorporate solar charging capabilities into something like the roof or a tonneau cover, especially for a truck.

I was thinking as I was mowing the grass today (my mower is battery operated) how easy it would be to have spare batteries (think Dewalt or Ryobi tool batteries) that you could swap out on the go-as an option for a charge while on a long trip, to really create a longer lasting power supply for an EV.

 

[Blue_Max]

not necessarily - today gas is about 3.12 a gallon avg nationwide, considering inflation over the last 4 years that totaled about 20 percent that means in 2021 dollars gas is actually about $2.50 a gallon now - there's also more oil being put on the market, it could very well be that due to increased production and less demand that the prices continue to stabilize or decrease over time.

OK, I'll tell the gas station I want to pay in 2021 dollars.

 

[pigsareus]

OK, I'll tell the gas station I want to pay in 2021 dollars.

I'm sure you get the idea, gas is cheap - the dire warnings of 7 or 8 bucks a gallon isn't going to happen.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

As more and more EV's are being built and infrastructure for charging stations not quite keeping up yet (or as convenient as some need them to be), It would make sense to incorporate solar charging capabilities into something like the roof or a tonneau cover, especially for a truck.

I was thinking as I was mowing the grass today (my mower is battery operated) how easy it would be to have spare batteries (think Dewalt or Ryobi tool batteries) that you could swap out on the go-as an option for a charge while on a long trip, to really create a longer lasting power supply for an EV.

Standardized replacement batteries are an idea that one Chinese EV car company tried. You just pull in, a worker with a forklift or pallet jack pops out the battery module and puts in a fresh one in less than a minute. For this to be practical, you'd need many/most companies to agree to build their systems around a generic battery bank of a standard size. Most have bespoke amperage and connections that will only work on ONE model in their multicar lineup.
Given how Merkun companies work, each one would try to make their battery bank different, so you could only go to THEIR battery exchange locations. Sort of like how only Teslas could use Tesla charging stations for a long time, and even now there are few other brands that are "allowed".
I love the idea of modular battery packs for vehicles; many would have just one port, but some would have two or more. Heavier vehicles would need more kWh capacity. Some vehicles might have optional extra ports available for owners to use if they are going on a long trip or otherwise need more range due to use, but operate just fine with only one battery module installed.

However, with charging becoming faster and faster all the time, and driving range increasing, the need to swap batteries to save time is almost a dead-end "solution". It would be like swapping full tanks of gas with empty ones rather than filling up the one already installed. In just a few years we'll all be laughing at the range anxiety so prevalent in the early days of retail EVs.

 

[Blue_Max]

I'm sure you get the idea, gas is cheap - the dire warnings of 7 or 8 bucks a gallon isn't going to happen.

4 bucks a gallon is more than sufficient to be a nuisance. And what about 2037 dollars? And can we convert 2021 to dog years?

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

As more and more EV's are being built and infrastructure for charging stations not quite keeping up yet (or as convenient as some need them to be), It would make sense to incorporate solar charging capabilities into something like the roof or a tonneau cover, especially for a truck.

I was thinking as I was mowing the grass today (my mower is battery operated) how easy it would be to have spare batteries (think Dewalt or Ryobi tool batteries) that you could swap out on the go-as an option for a charge while on a long trip, to really create a longer lasting power supply for an EV.

Sunlight is NOT very powerful after it travels 93 million miles to reach Earth.

Pure sunlight is about 1000 watts per square meter. (Larger than a square yard.). At 40% efficiency you can put 400 watts into your car.

Cars need 25,000 watts to drive.
Customers want 200,000 watt motors for that "zoom zoom" feeling.

Sunlight from vehicle mounted panels could add 4 or 5 miles of driving range per DAY of direct sunlight.

Better than nothing if panels become very very cheap. But can never be a sole source of power.

 

[AutobahnSHO]

As more and more EV's are being built and infrastructure for charging stations not quite keeping up yet (or as convenient as some need them to be), It would make sense to incorporate solar charging capabilities into something like the roof or a tonneau cover, especially for a truck.

I was thinking as I was mowing the grass today (my mower is battery operated) how easy it would be to have spare batteries (think Dewalt or Ryobi tool batteries) that you could swap out on the go-as an option for a charge while on a long trip, to really create a longer lasting power supply for an EV.

Putting a spot in the front of the bed to drop and plug in an extra battery could be kinda cool. Very expensive though- there are reasons cellphones with swappable batteries aren't sold anymore.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

the problem with gas/diesel is that it's a finite resource. Once it gets too expensive to extract and refine due to scarcity of easy to access deposits, the entire global economic system will have a panic attack. Currently, we just burn it up for convenience and entertainment, as well as mfg things and deliver them. And of course there's the whole land/air/sea pollution and environmental issue due to petrochemical waste from production and use, as well as discarded petrochemical based products themselves (read up on "microplastics").

The whole model of petrochemical reliance revolves around coming up with something to replace it before it becomes too scarce and expensive.

The current interest in electricity to replace some aspects of petrochemical burning is an expected symptom of trying to avoid painting ourselves into a corner of total reliance. It's gonna end, not immediately, but a gradual ramping up of prices as oil becomes harder to find, extract, and refine new deposits. Actually, it might be less gradual, since the HUGE populations of China and India are becoming more like the Western World, and everyone there wants to have a car. As for Merkuh. we're selling off our oil reserves to foreign countries as fast as we can pump it out, cuz companies LIKE money. Merkuh will likely run dry before other major countries because of this short-term-gain strategy. Then we're at the mercy of foreign oil supplies.
My point; Merkuh should strictly limit and reduce oil sales abroad, perhaps add a very steep export fee. This does two things: it lowers the cost of fuel in Merkuh, and extends the natural oil reserves, perhaps resulting in being the last large oil reserves left on the planet at some point in the not too distant future.
Of course, if a cheap, clean alternative is invented/discovered before that happens, it wouldn't be as important. You still need oil to make plastic stuff, though.

And since this is a long-term scenario that will take a few decades to occur, the average person has a hard time recognizing it as important. Most people have a hard time thinking more than a few months into the future, let alone years or decades (don't blame me, that's actual scientific observation of the cognitive capabilities of humans).

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

It's a shame that most people who have little faith in EV's or complain about them have never tried them.

Sorry, but opinions from those people are about a penny above worthless.

The technology is here now.
EV's are practical for 90% of people now. People are stuck in their ways.
An old old film reel shows people complained about having to dial their own phones when direct dial came out.

And if you don't know what dial a phone and roll up a window really means, LOOK IT UP!

EV's are not perfect.
No vehicle is.
EV's are not pollution free.
No vehicle is.
EV's can not handle every situation.
No vehicle can.

I drove an EV for six years, 65,000 miles.
Loved every minute. So fun to drive. So easy to drive. So easy to charge. So cheap (for me) to charge.

I paid an average of 3 cents per mile ($1.30 gas) for 65,000 miles. A mix of free charging and some expensive charging. Changed tires one time in 65,000 miles. Zero oil or filter changes of any kind. Cheapest car to own. And so fun too! Very zippy!

My needs changed in 2022.
I needed a bed. I needed to tow.
Wanted a Silverado EV. They were not out yet. Wanted a Lightning. But both were too dang expensive with too short of a towing range. But for most use; most of the time, when not towing, either would have sufficed for me.

I got one of the early XLT Hybrid Mavericks all tricked out for $26k.
Too good of a deal to pass up.
And like I said elsewhere, it's a baby EV with gas range extender for me. Half of the miles (and I drive a lot) are EV on my Maverick. You could call it an EV with training wheels.

That means half of the TIME.
Half of the HOURS I am in my truck create zero pollution. Sometimes more than half are pollution free miles

YMMV

 

[mrjspence]

yep - BYOB - bring your own battery

they're just going to be competing against their existing truck line - most are thrilled with their hybrids and the mileage, gas prices have stabilized, there's no 'big need' for a new EV truck regardless of their 'new and improved' technology - for the relatively small number who want they'll buy it but it will be competing with the mav and the ranger unless they intend to dump the Ranger altogether. You'd think they'd go the EV SUV route as a first exhibit of this new big thing.

I feel it’s a good iterative approach to longer-term planning. Most likely in a matter of a few years, next administration will bring back some form of EV credits or incentives. And Ford probably knows that. Like the Maverick- low cost vehicle, roughly $38-45 to fill up a hybrid and get 500mi++ on a tank is hard to beat even with an EV. So I think First to market - like Tesla did in 2018 with Model 3… Get it out, make adjustments over a few years and make it great, and then go for it with the masses while others play catch up. Who knows. Jim Farley is a great CEO I think, I’m sure he’s got it figured out better than we do. I had a Lightning and wife still has an ID.4. We’ve had Tesla too… love/hate for me lol. We’ll see.

 

[d7602002]

I disagree with the guy above that your opinion is virtually worthless if you've never tried an EV. Using that mentality then we shouldn't have opinions of politics if we've never been in politics. If you've never played sports your opinion shouldn't count when discussing sports. If you have never fought in or been in a war, you're opinion on war should not count.

I get what he's saying, but I disagree.

As I said earlier, I would get an electric vehicle but I want exactly what I have now. Basically the same things on it. I can get about 450 miles per tank on my Maverick, so I would like the same mileage on the battery. I want a car or truck that has everything I have now for the same price that I paid for what I have now. I don't think that's asking for much. I would assume as the technology gets better the price is should come down so when they do then I'll look into it.

Peace out, brother!

 

[Blue_Max]

Ford should take a cue from the past. Cab forward, battery in the back maybe.

From the Land Before Crumple Zones. Such a design would never meet modern crash standards.

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