Is Maverick 200k miles reliable?

[gaken]

I’ll be straight to the point:

Nissan Frontier is YOUR best bet. Reasons I say that is the entire truck and drivetrain is old school. Basically unchanged from a 10 year old Frontier. All you have to keep you from losing sleep is that water pump/timing chain issue that you mentioned.

The Frontier would not be the truck for me because of the long term financial troubles Nissan is in. Also, the Frontier design is too antiquated for me. On a side note, newer Toyota pickup quality is not what it used to be. Check out Toyota Tundra problems.

I will take my chances with my trusty ‘22 Hybrid Maverick. I have high confidence I can take the engine well over 200,000 miles for a couple of reasons: A) My previous car, a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, with the same drivetrain as my Maverick, went 210,000 miles. Original battery and engine. Car was still going strong. I just got tired of it. B) NYC Ford Escape taxis with the same engine as the Hybrid engines, routinely racked up 400-600,000 miles on them before retiring them. If you don’t have any issues within the standard 8 yr/ 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, you should be golden, going forward.

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[Blokcar]

I drive 10k-12k miles a year so I am hoping to never find out. I'll be in a new vehicle long before I ever reach that mileage.

 

[Joeker]

Another consideration is that the eco engine will run 100% of that 200k miles.

My hybrid says that of the last 475 miles I've driven, 187 were electric.
So my hybrid engine has only ran approximately 61% of the time to drive 475 miles.

Just using those numbers, thats only about 122k running miles on the hybrid engine for 200k miles driven!

*I know these numbers are a very small sampling and driving conditions vary, towing, etc but the hybrid engine will always have less time running than the ecoboost for the same amount of miles.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

...a 2016 F150 2.7EB at 465k miles is hard to beat...........

Close to that is a NYC Escape Hybrid taxi with 400k NYC miles, linked to earlier.

 

[Jonny44]

Any vehicle will last that long if it's maintained properly.

 

[CurtisB]

maybe the last part true, but ford warranties the battery exactly as long as they are required to by law lol. 8 years. and, they are only required to replace with same wear. so if your battery goes out in warranty and had 70% capacity left, they can give you a refurb with 70%.

most ppl dont keep a car 8 yrs. but again my current vehicle is 17 yrs old and running great! i keep mine a long time or at least like to have that option.

I am pretty sure there is no possible way the battery is lasting much beyond ~10 yrs. I dont think even Tesla expect that (the reason EV resale is lower than ICE) and they are much more advanced than ford. With batteries miles are not the enemy, it's much more sneaky, the calendar is! your battery degrades sitting in the driveway (as well as heat, its probably 120 in my texas garage in the summer)

Google says replacement cost is between 2000 and 8000. fairly meaningless tbh. the thing is mavericks are too new to get much read on battery replacement.

anyways, main thing i desire besides simplicity is the power the ecoboost offers. it should be a nice upgrade from the 180 horses i have now. If Ford offered a 12+ year factory warranty on the hybrid battery it'd be a lot more palatable to me. considering it still has a whole gas motor to worry about like normal. it's just an extra factor i shouldn't have to worry about.

the gas savings just doesnt mean anything too me. say, 25 vs 35 miles to the gallon, with me driving 12k miles a year, paying 2.30 for gas in tx. heck i did the calculations and even savings from a tesla (so, no gas) would be negligible to me. after you figure up electricity costs (granted Mav hasnt), tx increased annual registration fee on ev's, etc. well i figured it up right now and the hybrid mav would save me $300 a year. not nothing, but thats going to be eaten by the battery replacement down the line and then some.

The cost of replacing the HV battery will be significantly low. I owned a Prius for 7 years. Still had the original HV Battery. Replacement at the end of seven years ranged $1,200 to $1,600 and these are the newer types that will go 10-15 years. One could put aside 19 dollars a month for 7 years and get a new battery that is better than the original. I spent 40 dollars a month in gas instead of 400 a week. It was a no-brainer for me. Sold the Prius at a profit and bought the Maverick. Hybrids are not the end of the world. Built right, they make sense for some people.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

I’ll be straight to the point:

Nissan Frontier is YOUR best bet. Reasons I say that is the entire truck and drivetrain is old school. Basically unchanged from a 10 year old Frontier. All you have to keep you from losing sleep is that water pump/timing chain issue that you mentioned.

The Frontier would not be the truck for me because of the long term financial troubles Nissan is in. Also, the Frontier design is too antiquated for me. On a side note, newer Toyota pickup quality is not what it used to be. Check out Toyota Tundra problems.

I will take my chances with my trusty ‘22 Hybrid Maverick. I have high confidence I can take the engine well over 200,000 miles for a couple of reasons: A) My previous car, a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, with the same drivetrain as my Maverick, went 210,000 miles. Original battery and engine. Car was still going strong. I just got tired of it. B) NYC Ford Escape taxis with the same engine as the Hybrid engines, routinely racked up 400-600,000 miles on them before retiring them. If you don’t have any issues within the standard 8 yr/ 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, you should be golden, going forward.

I agree with what he said
As much as they keep trying no one is going to change your mind into buying a hybrid.
The New frontier looks better than it has in recent years.

 

[PriusHater]

my truck is 17 years old, i will have to replace hybrid battery 2-3 times in that span, at costs of thousands. when i replace my canyon battery it's 100 dollars at wal mart.

Not likely to be true. The HEV battery in the 2006 Prius I owned was 15 years old and still functioning when I sold it with the arrival of my Maverick. The Maverick definitely has a newer style HEV battery and should be quite dependable over the long haul.

Having owned a '22 Hybrid Maverick for three years, I can confidently say the vehicle has been pretty rock solid. Have there been a lot of recalls (mostly software), yes, but other than that have had no major issues.

 

[Snox801]

First, I'm not sure if this is the right forum. Hopefully.

I really love the maverick size. and price is nice too. however, i currently drive a 08 gmc canyon 4 cylinder. it has 172k trouble free miles so far and thats basically all city driving (i bought it used in 2013 with 30k miles). well i've replaced a few things like a water pump over the years but all shadetree jobs.

my big concerns with the mav is with the turbo engine (I want the ecoboost, wont consider the hybrid) the mexico build, ford reputation (but then again as above, GMC doesnt have a great rep but mine is going strong), all the new technology in cars today, cheap build/price (altho i dont consider 25k cheap, i get it today it is). i've watched a few mechanic breakdown vids of the mav or other new ford models on yt and they're typically not too kind. i have to admit i often derogatorily think of the Mav as a "tinfoil truck" lol. otoh we have for example my dad who says cars today are generally more reliable than the past and i kinda agree with him there too. it's just the last few years with more environmental regulations and turbo engines i kinda wonder about.

the other big issue is a watched danieldeliverz videos a lot and he had a lot of issues iirc, the big one being his transmission went out (and it seemed ford dealer didnt even really know what to do since the model was just a couple years old at that point) that really spooked me. Yes he put a lot of miles on his but so what, it's not like 100k miles isn't 100k miles regardless over 2 yrs or 10.

the alternative would be to look at other mid size. which are generally huge and seem to be getting bigger, too big for my liking. The Nissan Frontier (which seems a bit smaller than Ranger/Colorado) is one I've looked at. Naturally aspirated 6. Main issues seem to be requires timing chain replace to replace the water pump (bad design) and heavy steering (just the way Nissan tuned it I guess). Theres always Tacoma, but I dont love the styling, and the price is getting up there.

i do love that the mav seems to be actually available for around 26k new now. wasnt the case a couple years ago when i looked at them.

so anyways any thoughts?

It will easily make 200k with proper maintenance. I have a 2.0 eco in my wife’s 17 edge. Same basic engine and driveline. The maverick has updated both engine and trans for longevity over the edge and I’m almost to 300k with hers.
I see no reason the maverick will not make a easy 200k should be much higher before parts start to fail

 

[Snox801]

I also would rather have my balls slammed in the door than by a hybrid. It’s seems so underwhelming I. The power department. If not concerned about power maybe. It just lacked any fun to drive factor.

Second I would never want a second drivetrain to deal with.
Just seems like a whole separate drive system to worry about long term.

 

[Master Blaster]

I’ll be straight to the point:

Nissan Frontier is YOUR best bet. Reasons I say that is the entire truck and drivetrain is old school. Basically unchanged from a 10 year old Frontier. All you have to keep you from losing sleep is that water pump/timing chain issue that you mentioned.

The Frontier would not be the truck for me because of the long term financial troubles Nissan is in. Also, the Frontier design is too antiquated for me. On a side note, newer Toyota pickup quality is not what it used to be. Check out Toyota Tundra problems.

I will take my chances with my trusty ‘22 Hybrid Maverick. I have high confidence I can take the engine well over 200,000 miles for a couple of reasons: A) My previous car, a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, with the same drivetrain as my Maverick, went 210,000 miles. Original battery and engine. Car was still going strong. I just got tired of it. B) NYC Ford Escape taxis with the same engine as the Hybrid engines, routinely racked up 400-600,000 miles on them before retiring them. If you don’t have any issues within the standard 8 yr/ 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, you should be golden, going forward.

I’ll be straight to the point:

Nissan Frontier is YOUR best bet. Reasons I say that is the entire truck and drivetrain is old school. Basically unchanged from a 10 year old Frontier. All you have to keep you from losing sleep is that water pump/timing chain issue that you mentioned.

The Frontier would not be the truck for me because of the long term financial troubles Nissan is in. Also, the Frontier design is too antiquated for me. On a side note, newer Toyota pickup quality is not what it used to be. Check out Toyota Tundra problems.

I will take my chances with my trusty ‘22 Hybrid Maverick. I have high confidence I can take the engine well over 200,000 miles for a couple of reasons: A) My previous car, a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, with the same drivetrain as my Maverick, went 210,000 miles. Original battery and engine. Car was still going strong. I just got tired of it. B) NYC Ford Escape taxis with the same engine as the Hybrid engines, routinely racked up 400-600,000 miles on them before retiring them. If you don’t have any issues within the standard 8 yr/ 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, you should be golden, going forward.

I also would rather have my balls slammed in the door than by a hybrid. It’s seems so underwhelming I. The power department. If not concerned about power maybe. It just lacked any fun to drive factor.

Second I would never want a second drivetrain to deal with.
Just seems like a whole separate drive system to worry about long term.

"Fun to drive factor"? Its a truck, not a racecar. It gets things done a lot better than what you seem to need.
First, the hybrid is actually the simpler and more reliable drivetrain. It has no turbo, no direct injection, no high-pressure fuel rail and pump, no alternator, no fanbelts, brakes that last at least 2x as long, and no transmission gears and clutches to wear out. The gas engine in many sizes and with several variants of intake manifold has been in heavy use by two manufacturers for 24 years now. Even the valve actuation is a simpler design that is a lot more durable than what you're used to. The electric motor is a redesign of the Toyota Prius drive motor that has been in production for 28 years. The transaxle design is similarly a Toyota design that is also 28 years old. There are lots of examples of this type of drivetrain from both Ford and Toyota going 1/2Million miles with just routine maintenance.

Second, The hybrid drivetrain is actually quicker than the EcoBoost up to 40mph, but it would be unlikely to beat an all-electric variant should Ford decide to build one.

 

[zen_]

I’ll be straight to the point:

Nissan Frontier is YOUR best bet. Reasons I say that is the entire truck and drivetrain is old school. Basically unchanged from a 10 year old Frontier. All you have to keep you from losing sleep is that water pump/timing chain issue that you mentioned.

The Frontier would not be the truck for me because of the long term financial troubles Nissan is in. Also, the Frontier design is too antiquated for me. On a side note, newer Toyota pickup quality is not what it used to be. Check out Toyota Tundra problems.

I will take my chances with my trusty ‘22 Hybrid Maverick. I have high confidence I can take the engine well over 200,000 miles for a couple of reasons: A) My previous car, a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid, with the same drivetrain as my Maverick, went 210,000 miles. Original battery and engine. Car was still going strong. I just got tired of it. B) NYC Ford Escape taxis with the same engine as the Hybrid engines, routinely racked up 400-600,000 miles on them before retiring them. If you don’t have any issues within the standard 8 yr/ 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, you should be golden, going forward.

Car Care Nut recently gave a solid review of the Frontier. It is probably the best bang for buck, no-nonsense body on frame truck you can buy now. He has actually gave a lot of praise to recent Nissan vehicles for being fairly sound mechanically and high on value, which is interesting since the company is such dire straights from having the brand trashed by Renault.



One big gotcha with the Frontier, Nissan's, the Maverick, and many other vehicles is parts availability though. Follow any mechanic on youtube and they will all say that parts availability for many vehicles that don't have 10 million copies on the road (like an F-150) is terrible. Manufacturers are only making enough OE parts for warranty and recall needs, while the quality and availability of aftermarket parts just keeps getting worse and worse.

My #1 fear of the Maverick now that I have one and it's almost paid off is that right when I get my title, Ford will stop making it, and it will be a vehicle with very poor parts availability since there's not that many on the road. Different story if Ford has an 8-10 year run selling 150-200K units a year of this generation. You have to have parts to keep a vehicle going 10+ years, 150K+ miles.

 

[Tbone289]

"Fun to drive factor"? Its a truck, not a racecar.

It's good that the hybrid is a choice available to folks that think "fun to drive" and "truck" must be mutually exclusive.

 

[Jman79]

The cost of replacing the HV battery will be significantly low. I owned a Prius for 7 years. Still had the original HV Battery. Replacement at the end of seven years ranged $1,200 to $1,600 and these are the newer types that will go 10-15 years. One could put aside 19 dollars a month for 7 years and get a new battery that is better than the original. I spent 40 dollars a month in gas instead of 400 a week. It was a no-brainer for me. Sold the Prius at a profit and bought the Maverick. Hybrids are not the end of the world. Built right, they make sense for some people.

400 a week? Did drive Big Foot before you switched to a Prius or is that an extra 0 typo?

 

[shark978]

Car Care Nut recently gave a solid review of the Frontier. It is probably the best bang for buck, no-nonsense body on frame truck you can buy now. He has actually gave a lot of praise to recent Nissan vehicles for being fairly sound mechanically and high on value, which is interesting since the company is such dire straights from having the brand trashed by Renault.



One big gotcha with the Frontier, Nissan's, the Maverick, and many other vehicles is parts availability though. Follow any mechanic on youtube and they will all say that parts availability for many vehicles that don't have 10 million copies on the road (like an F-150) is terrible. Manufacturers are only making enough OE parts for warranty and recall needs, while the quality and availability of aftermarket parts just keeps getting worse and worse.

My #1 fear of the Maverick now that I have one and it's almost paid off is that right when I get my title, Ford will stop making it, and it will be a vehicle with very poor parts availability since there's not that many on the road. Different story if Ford has an 8-10 year run selling 150-200K units a year of this generation. You have to have parts to keep a vehicle going 10+ years, 150K+ miles.

Yep I saw that same video about frontier!

One interesting thing is when I looked into a new engine for my Canyon, just out of curiosity if the engine went if replacement was an option rather than buy a new vehicle, I found a predictable problem, all the motors out there were both expensive and high mileage. IIRC they were 4-5k BEFORE several k more for install of course, but moreso these were motors with 100k+ miles on them. Since they stopped making that generation Canyon/Colorado/Hummer in 2012 I believe (at least for Canyon Colorado). It makes sense that almost all engines floating around for them are expensive and high mileage. When I looked at engines for a current model (at that time,. this was a few years ago) Ranger, they were both much cheaper 2500-3k, and readily available with low miles like 20-30k. At that point a replacement engine would make a lot more fiscal sense.

hopefully the maverick ends up like the latter situation.

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