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My Lariat Hybrid gets all my love...especially now that it has proven to be a great vehicle to tow behind my small motorhome. There is no downside compromise for me. It is my 3rd Ford Hybrid and hybrids make the most sense to me for an on-road vehicle with its capabilities to haul and be hauled and pass fuel stations.
And unlike my towable C-Max before, this actually has a spare tire and a jack!
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Plug in hybrids are a BAD option for 99% of people. And environmentalists are universally against plug-in hybrids.

Why? Because you are not required to plug in, most people don't. It ties up NON-UTILIZED battery resources and the gasoline efficiency is only mediocre.

I had a Chevy Bolt EV for 6 years.
I never charged at home ever.
Did 60,000 EV miles all from public charging. Most times free or at 3 cents a mile. In California there are more EV chargers than gas stations (locations, not "pumps" since most gas stations have 8 to 16 pumps).

It's NOT inconvenient or time consuming to charge in public. You have to eat. You have to shop. You have to pee while traveling.

Traded it for the Hybrid Maverick because I wanted to tow things, and I wanted to go to very remote off grid vacation destinations, while having an affordable commuter vehicle.

The Bolt EV was so fast and fun to drive.
It would out run anything other than a Tesla when I first got it in 2017. Now there are lots of fast EV's.

AND fast(er) recharging EV's.
SOME will put 100 miles into the battery in about 5 minutes.
 

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They currently don't make an AWD hybrid, and because of the extreme cold where I live I am concerned about the batteries freezing up. If a FWD hybrid fits your bill, by all means snatch one up and save some gas money.
Not sure how a Lithium Ion is going to freeze in normal Conditions, as they can't freeze until 40 degrees below zero. They are also heated by the gas engine. IF, and that's a BIG IF I ever anticipate my truck seeing -20 degrees air temperate, you can bet I will program it to start every 2 hours. so it doesn't do do a deep freeze start. Last time it was that cold in Chicago was 1985.
 

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remote off grid
You can't achieve this level of freedom with an EV, and even if it were possible, it wouldn't truly qualify as "Remote Off Grid."

I owned a Chevy Volt for three years, initially desiring a Tesla. However, my experience with the Volt has made me rethink full EVs entirely, primarily due to their limitations. In an EV, true remote locations are off-limits because they lack essential amenities, and the presence of a charging station hardly qualifies as remote, even if it relies entirely on solar power. When I decided to trade my Volt for the Maverick, I was no longer interested in purchasing a Tesla or any other EV. During my ownership of the Volt, I charged it nightly and primarily used electricity for local driving. I even took it on cross-country trips without worrying about finding charging stations. Towards the end of my ownership, my biggest concern was whether the battery would fail, requiring a costly $10,000 replacement. Although it probably had more miles left in it, I didn't want to take that risk. Instead, I traded it for the Hybrid Maverick I ordered. While it has a smaller battery, the potential replacement cost should be lower, and I can still travel cross-country and venture into remote, off-grid locations without hesitation.
 

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They currently don't make an AWD hybrid, and because of the extreme cold where I live I am concerned about the batteries freezing up. If a FWD hybrid fits your bill, by all means snatch one up and save some gas money.
I wouldn't worry about the extreme cold freezing the high voltage battery, I drove a Ford Cmax Hybrid for 8 years and I live in Manitoba, doesn't get much colder than that in winter. The mileage plummets in the cold though. The 12V battery needed to be replaced a few times but that happens in ICE cars as well.
 

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US. Census bureau reports that 40% of Americans do NOT have regular access to recharging <<<IS silly, they can charge them from Home even if you do not have 220V access you can still charge them with 110V. the more accurate statement would be that 40% Americans do not know what it takes to charge a plug-in vehicle
it's pretty hard to charge an EV from your 5th floor apartment. Or even your first floor apartment. really. Sure you can plug up an EV to a 110v outlet and get a trickle charge overnight. But a lot of people don't live in a house. Cities are full of high density residential, apartment complexes. At present the infrastructure doesn't really exist for EV charging in apartment parking. Which is ironic given that inside city driving is almost the ideal scenario for EVs.
 

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it's pretty hard to charge an EV from your 5th floor apartment. Or even your first floor apartment. really. Sure you can plug up an EV to a 110v outlet and get a trickle charge overnight. But a lot of people don't live in a house. Cities are full of high density residential, apartment complexes. At present the infrastructure doesn't really exist for EV charging in apartment parking. Which is ironic given that inside city driving is almost the ideal scenario for EVs.
I did not think of that, but is that 40% of Americans?
 

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I did not think of that, but is that 40% of Americans?
At last check It was something like 20% of Americans are in apartments. but the difference between rural and urban living is stark. much more apartment living is in cities than rural.
 

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i think most of us agree that the goal is/ should be to reduce Fossil Fuel dependency/emissions by as much as possible as soon as possible right? and i think it must be done sooner, not later . but that shouldnt mean destroying civilization as we know it.
i believe that Hybrids such as our Mav's should & could play a MUCH greater role in this ongoing transition.

with all due respect to my Ecoboost and 'pure' ICE' devotee's i submit to you that our Mav hybrid system makes far more sense for most people. my Mav hybrid has excellent off the line and highway merging performance and is very well appointed for a vehicle in this price range to boot.
i have gone from filling up the tank once a week to once a month, of course your mileage and experience will vary from mine but that is not nothing.
there are not many folks out there that don't like the idea of perhaps doubling their MPG or more while also getting so much value for the $$.

while and until we build out the necessary infrastructure for a mostly electric fleet such as better batteries & more plentiful, and more efficient charging options and better used electric batt recycling options and so forth to support the coming transition to a mostly electric passenger and over the road trucking vehicle fleet it sure seems to me that BHEV's should be the next step to get us there.

one more thing. the US. Census bureau reports that 40% of Americans do NOT have regular access to recharging options for a plug in electric vehicle or plug in hybrid vehicle at home or at work, thats a problem for a lot more people than you may think.
where are these folks supposed to recharge these darn things?
even if you got a electric car or truck with a 300 mile per charge range you WILL eventually have t0 recharge the batt at some point. where are you supposed to recharge the darn thing if you're one of those many folks that don't have access to reasonable recharge options? ....answer....get yourself a Maverick Hybrid and help save the planet while also owning one of the best small pickups for sale anywhere :)

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I think it's because more people bought mavericks to tow things,hence the 4000 lb towing.im sure the hybrid is an awesome vehicle though!
 

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Hybrids get lots of love. Great little trucks but Ford decided to not have AWD in a Hybrid so my love took a back seat to practicality.

I have no idea if a hybrid makes more sense for most people and do not care. What I do know is the EgoBoost AWD system I bought makes the most sense for me and that I do care about.
 
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If you want to save the planet (or help with climate change) you shouldn’t buy a brand new vehicle. Anyone suggesting this is just trying to sell you something. Maybe ride a bike, walk, or drive an old beater. I bought mine because it was cheap, had a bed, and got good gas mileage.
 

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I also wanted an engine and transmission that have been proven in several other applications over the years.
I mean, Ford's 2.5 hybrid is about as durable and proven as it gets. This engine has been around for what? 15-20 years? It exists in millions of cars, yet I've never met a mechanic who's had to replace a Mazda l series 2.5, or a Ford e-cvt, or a hybrid battery pack.

Don't get me wrong, the 2.0 is a pretty solid setup in its own right, especially in later versions, but from a pure longevity standpoint, Ecoboost has got nothing on Ford's hybrids, and I love ecoboost engines.
 

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Not sure how a Lithium Ion is going to freeze in normal Conditions, as they can't freeze until 40 degrees below zero. They are also heated by the gas engine. IF, and that's a BIG IF I ever anticipate my truck seeing -20 degrees air temperate, you can bet I will program it to start every 2 hours. so it doesn't do do a deep freeze start. Last time it was that cold in Chicago was 1985.
Gunnison, CO. One of the coldest spots in the continental US of A. We See -40° below almost every season here, and -20° to -30° almost nightly December - February. Lots of snow and ice too, so I need AWD. Period. Nothing against hybrid Mavericks, they just won't cut the mustard for my needs.
 
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The hybrid has a massive problem for my use case. It doesn't come with AWD.

If it were available, I would have bought it.

I agree that we need more hybrids. Ford, Toyota, and Honda are doing a fantastic job of offering quite a few options. The hybrid Mav, new Prius, and new Accords are fantastic.
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