Wheel swapping & TPMS question?

[Don806]

Swapped out my XLT rims and tires with a set of steelies last friday. picked up the rims/tires from a member here who sold his maverick. The TPMS picked up the new wheels before I got out of the parking lot of the tire shop and worked fine until Tuesday afternoon. Got a TPMS fault message but it reset itself Wednesday morning. Got the same message on the way home again today. Do the new TPMS sensors need to be programmed to the truck? The XLT rims are stored in a shed about 100' from where truck is parked each night. I've seen posts saying g they need to be relearned and also the truck will pick them up?

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[Doburden]

Swapped out my XLT rims and tires with a set of steelies last friday. picked up the rims/tires from a member here who sold his maverick. The TPMS picked up the new wheels before I got out of the parking lot of the tire shop and worked fine until Tuesday afternoon. Got a TPMS fault message but it reset itself Wednesday morning. Got the same message on the way home again today. Do the new TPMS sensors need to be programmed to the truck? The XLT rims are stored in a shed about 100' from where truck is parked each night. I've seen posts saying g they need to be relearned and also the truck will pick them up?

Hi there,
I think when you store your tires without moving them the sensors are switching of to preserve the battery.
The truck should automatically recognise the sensors on the tires you run now (especially if they are from another Maverick)

 

[OleFordGuy]

I'm no mechanic, given that, I get my oil changed every 4-5K miles and have the tires rotated/balanced at the same time. Each time my mechanic reprograms the tire sensors to match the new wheel position with some handheld device. I don't know all the details of it all but I've watched him, he points the device at the newly mounted wheel position, it makes a beep noise, after all wheels are done I think he puts the truck in maintenance mode plugs the handheld device into the port under dash below steering wheel, the truck horn beeps several times. Never knew that needed to be done myself, he doesn't charge me any extra. Just usual oil/filter/rotate/balance fee which is about the same or little less at other shops in the area. Not sure if that helps any but at least its some info. Zero issues. Good Luck!

 

[Don806]

I'm no mechanic, given that, I get my oil changed every 4-5K miles and have the tires rotated/balanced at the same time. Each time my mechanic reprograms the tire sensors to match the new wheel position with some handheld device. I don't know all the details of it all but I've watched him, he points the device at the newly mounted wheel position, it makes a beep noise, after all wheels are done I think he puts the truck in maintenance mode plugs the handheld device into the port under dash below steering wheel, the truck horn beeps several times. Never knew that needed to be done myself, he doesn't charge me any extra. Just usual oil/filter/rotate/balance fee which is about the same or little less at other shops in the area. Not sure if that helps any but at least its some info. Zero issues. Good Luck!

My tire rotation and oil changes done much the same way, and no device used. My steelies are from another maverick, and same year even, both 2022s. Ill ask tire guy about it and see what he says. Thanks

 

[RobbieAG]

I'm interested to learn about how this works as I have an XL coming and bought some XLT alloys off a member here and was wondering how it would work when switching wheels. I was thinking they would switch the TPMS sensors from my steelies to the alloys.

 

[MetalsGeek]

I bought a "TPMS 19" transmitter for $32 on Amazon (search "B001FKSNUI") so my '23 XLT hybrid can relearn where each wheel is after a rotation. It was advertised as Motorcraft but appeared to be a Chinese clone. It worked so I suppose I'm happy. I don't use it often, but I believe this is the only way the truck will correctly report which tire is low. The relearn procedure I used is:
(1) Inflate tires to correct pressure before entering TPMS Training Mode. Lug nut torque spec for most cars is 100 ft-lbs; Maverick is 150.
(2) Make sure driver's door is OPEN and Key is OFF.
(3) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(4) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN
(5) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(6) Turn key to OFF.
(7) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN.
(8) Single horn beep indicates TPMS is in training mode with a 2-minute timeout.
(9) Follow instrument panel instructions to set each wheel by placing the TMPS19 transmitter as close to the wheel sensor as possible and holding the button until the horn blows to indicate wheel is set. Sequence is clockwise as LF, RF, RR, LR. After last wheel, instrument panel displays "training complete"
(10) Double beep at ignition switch OFF means process was not successful. No beep indicates success. Slow response to TPMS-19 command indicates sensor battery is getting weak.

 

[Whatcolortochoose]

Damn I thought we had moved past the era of weird konami code stuff with vehicles

Thank you for sharing the info

 

[Don806]

I bought a "TPMS 19" transmitter for $32 on Amazon (search "B001FKSNUI") so my '23 XLT hybrid can relearn where each wheel is after a rotation. It was advertised as Motorcraft but appeared to be a Chinese clone. It worked so I suppose I'm happy. I don't use it often, but I believe this is the only way the truck will correctly report which tire is low. The relearn procedure I used is:
(1) Inflate tires to correct pressure before entering TPMS Training Mode. Lug nut torque spec for most cars is 100 ft-lbs; Maverick is 150.
(2) Make sure driver's door is OPEN and Key is OFF.
(3) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(4) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN
(5) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(6) Turn key to OFF.
(7) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN.
(8) Single horn beep indicates TPMS is in training mode with a 2-minute timeout.
(9) Follow instrument panel instructions to set each wheel by placing the TMPS19 transmitter as close to the wheel sensor as possible and holding the button until the horn blows to indicate wheel is set. Sequence is clockwise as LF, RF, RR, LR. After last wheel, instrument panel displays "training complete"
(10) Double beep at ignition switch OFF means process was not successful. No beep indicates success. Slow response to TPMS-19 command indicates sensor battery is getting weak.

from this, I'm coming up with: when doing my tire rotations, the TPMS sensors were being picked up by the truck, just not necessarily the correct wheel in the correct spot on the truck. I stopped over at the tire shop and we made sure that the tires all had 35# of air in each of them, and his TPMS device was able to read all 4 tires, and gave the correct tire pressure. But I never did anything to put the vehicle into "learning mode" and I got the TPMS fault light again last night, but it has reset itself this morning.

 

[MetalsGeek]

from this, I'm coming up with: when doing my tire rotations, the TPMS sensors were being picked up by the truck, just not necessarily the correct wheel in the correct spot on the truck. I stopped over at the tire shop and we made sure that the tires all had 35# of air in each of them, and his TPMS device was able to read all 4 tires, and gave the correct tire pressure. But I never did anything to put the vehicle into "learning mode" and I got the TPMS fault light again last night, but it has reset itself this morning.

That is my understanding. The TPMS apparently has antennas at each wheel, but they're not individually addressable so the system has to be taught the locations. If you rotate your tires without a relearn, the system will still correctly report when all is well. It just won't correctly report the location of a low pressure wheel. All in all, this seems like an acceptable tradeoff to me. Personally, I would be just as happy if the TPMS did not report ANY location when a tire is low. I can do that with a manual gage in less time than it takes to reprogram them. My GF's Honda Civic does low-pressure sensing by comparing wheel revolutions per mile, with NO expensive TPMS sensors required. I would prefer that approach myself.

 

[SLJ]

Never had a problem swapping or rotating wheels on my Bronco Sport and I had the dealer put my extra set of Bronco Sport wheels w/TPMS on the Maverick for the Winter when I picked it up. They just reset themselves. Service has never had to do any resets of the TPMS when changing wheels or rotating tires. My black out Maverick wheels/tires w/TPMS sit in the garage next to the Maverick and have no affect on it.

 

[NoVaJimmy]

Never had a problem swapping or rotating wheels on my Bronco Sport and I had the dealer put my extra set of Bronco Sport wheels w/TPMS on the Maverick for the Winter when I picked it up. They just reset themselves. Service has never had to do any resets of the TPMS when changing wheels or rotating tires. My black out Maverick wheels/tires w/TPMS sit in the garage next to the Maverick and have no affect on it.

This has been my exact experience with multiple sets of wheels having both Ford and aftermarket sensors.

 

[FamousAmos]

Swapped out my XLT rims and tires with a set of steelies last friday. picked up the rims/tires from a member here who sold his maverick. The TPMS picked up the new wheels before I got out of the parking lot of the tire shop and worked fine until Tuesday afternoon. Got a TPMS fault message but it reset itself Wednesday morning. Got the same message on the way home again today. Do the new TPMS sensors need to be programmed to the truck? The XLT rims are stored in a shed about 100' from where truck is parked each night. I've seen posts saying g they need to be relearned and also the truck will pick them up?

FWIW, I just had BBS wheels installed on my XL, Tire Rack had to reprogram their new sensors to my truck.
Which leads me to a related question: Since I kept the old sensors on my OEM wheels, if I decided to put snow tires on them for the winter, wouldn't I have to reprogram them BACK onto my truck even if each wheel went onto its previous hub?

 

[Don806]

FWIW, I just had BBS wheels installed on my XL, Tire Rack had to reprogram their new sensors to my truck.
Which leads me to a related question: Since I kept the old sensors on my OEM wheels, if I decided to put snow tires on them for the winter, wouldn't I have to reprogram them BACK onto my truck even if each wheel went onto its previous hub?

I'm thinking yes, but I'm by no means an expert? I've heard both ways on the forum...........I'm going to try to figure it out myself...........going to try with and without a tpms tool to see if I can get the wheels to re-learn where they are, but first I'm going to inflate a tire to about 3#-4# over and see where it shows at on the truck, now that the TPMS fault is gone again???? this whole thing has confused the crap out of me.

 

[NoVaJimmy]

FWIW, I just had BBS wheels installed on my XL, Tire Rack had to reprogram their new sensors to my truck.
Which leads me to a related question: Since I kept the old sensors on my OEM wheels, if I decided to put snow tires on them for the winter, wouldn't I have to reprogram them BACK onto my truck even if each wheel went onto its previous hub?

They shouldn't have had to program anything, I've used "unprogrammed" aftermarket TPMS sensors and the truck automatically picked them up after about 5-10 miles of driving. If you put your old wheels back on the truck will just pick up those OEM sensors.

 

[FamousAmos]

They shouldn't have had to program anything, I've used "unprogrammed" aftermarket TPMS sensors and the truck automatically picked them up after about 5-10 miles of driving. If you put your old wheels back on the truck will just pick up those OEM sensors.

NVJ, I hope you're right. I have something that might reinforce your opinion. After the technician installed the new wheels, he had to program the new sensors. His hand-held device wouldn't do the trick, so he had to come back the next day with a different device. He told me that, in the interim, the dashboard will read "low pressure," BUT IT NEVER DID. When I told him that, he couldn't understand it. Maybe it was automatically reprogrammed and he made a wasted trip. On the other hand...

Where are you in NoVa? I lived in Lakeridge the last 22 years of my career.

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