Wheel swapping & TPMS question?

[NoVaJimmy]

NVJ, I hope you're right. I have something that might reinforce your opinion. After the technician installed the new wheels, he had to program the new sensors. His hand-held device wouldn't do the trick, so he had to come back the next day with a different device. He told me that, in the interim, the dashboard will read "low pressure," BUT IT NEVER DID. When I told him that, he couldn't understand it. Maybe it was automatically reprogrammed and he made a wasted trip. On the other hand...

Where are you in NoVa? I lived in Lakeridge the last 22 years of my career.

I have had multiple sets of TPMS on my Mav and I have never programmed anything so I think the tech was just misinformed. I'm in Reston but about to move for work, can't say I'm a fan of the DC area in general. I'm sure Lakeridge is nice though.

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[Automan21]

Damn I thought we had moved past the era of weird konami code stuff with vehicles

Thank you for sharing the info

You do this and your maverick gets unlimited lives lol

 

[Don806]

I bought a "TPMS 19" transmitter for $32 on Amazon (search "B001FKSNUI") so my '23 XLT hybrid can relearn where each wheel is after a rotation. It was advertised as Motorcraft but appeared to be a Chinese clone. It worked so I suppose I'm happy. I don't use it often, but I believe this is the only way the truck will correctly report which tire is low. The relearn procedure I used is:
(1) Inflate tires to correct pressure before entering TPMS Training Mode. Lug nut torque spec for most cars is 100 ft-lbs; Maverick is 150.
(2) Make sure driver's door is OPEN and Key is OFF.
(3) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(4) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN
(5) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(6) Turn key to OFF.
(7) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN.
(8) Single horn beep indicates TPMS is in training mode with a 2-minute timeout.
(9) Follow instrument panel instructions to set each wheel by placing the TMPS19 transmitter as close to the wheel sensor as possible and holding the button until the horn blows to indicate wheel is set. Sequence is clockwise as LF, RF, RR, LR. After last wheel, instrument panel displays "training complete"
(10) Double beep at ignition switch OFF means process was not successful. No beep indicates success. Slow response to TPMS-19 command indicates sensor battery is getting weak.

was able to get the truck into "tire training" mode doing this, so going to stop back by the tire shop after work today in an attempt to get the wheels "trained". Was also able to get the truck into training mode using the other method mentioned (involves the hazard flashers) but couldn't get it to complete by letting air out of the tire. Also ordered a TPMS tool. All 4 wheels are showing the same air pressures that were in them before I did the wheel swap (with the right front being 31# due to a nail that was in it).

 

[MetalsGeek]

was able to get the truck into "tire training" mode doing this, so going to stop back by the tire shop after work today in an attempt to get the wheels "trained". Was also able to get the truck into training mode using the other method mentioned (involves the hazard flashers) but couldn't get it to complete by letting air out of the tire. Also ordered a TPMS tool. All 4 wheels are showing the same air pressures that were in them before I did the wheel swap (with the right front being 31# due to a nail that was in it).

If I understand you correctly, the tire with nail has been moved in rotation but the system shows it in the prior location. This would definitely indicate you need a relearn. If you're at the tire shop, DO have them patch that leak! I believe it's customary to charge a bit more for the remount when a TPMS sensor is present.

 

[Don806]

If I understand you correctly, the tire with nail has been moved in rotation but the system shows it in the prior location. This would definitely indicate you need a relearn. If you're at the tire shop, DO have them patch that leak! I believe it's customary to charge a bit more for the remount when a TPMS sensor is present.

the tire with the nail was fixed, and it and my other XLT rims/tires are in the shed behind the house, I swapped them for steelies with tires on 12/1. All 4 tires now on the truck have 35# of air in them, but the truck and Ford pass still shows the right front being at 31#, and the others at 33-34-34, these numbers haven't changed since doing the wheel swap. Plan is today after work to stop back at the tire shop, have him come up with his TPMS tool, but I'm going to put the truck in training mode again and see if I can get the truck to recognize the new wheels/TPMS. Have a TPMS tool of my own on the way also........$20 from Amazon

 

[Don806]

The steel wheels have been reprogrammed to the truck using the method for a tpms tool to get the truck into learning mode. Wasnt sure if the 5 min drive from the shop to the house would be enough time for FordPass app to pick them up but checked after parking and all shows good. Also put the engine shield back in the truck with oil change access doors cut into it. Phone was in truck so didn’t get pic of the shield installed

 

[BDennis]

I bought a "TPMS 19" transmitter for $32 on Amazon (search "B001FKSNUI") so my '23 XLT hybrid can relearn where each wheel is after a rotation. It was advertised as Motorcraft but appeared to be a Chinese clone. It worked so I suppose I'm happy. I don't use it often, but I believe this is the only way the truck will correctly report which tire is low. The relearn procedure I used is:
(1) Inflate tires to correct pressure before entering TPMS Training Mode. Lug nut torque spec for most cars is 100 ft-lbs; Maverick is 150.
(2) Make sure driver's door is OPEN and Key is OFF.
(3) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(4) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN
(5) Depress & release the BRAKE pedal
(6) Turn key to OFF.
(7) Within 10 seconds, cycle key from OFF to RUN 3X, ending in RUN.
(8) Single horn beep indicates TPMS is in training mode with a 2-minute timeout.
(9) Follow instrument panel instructions to set each wheel by placing the TMPS19 transmitter as close to the wheel sensor as possible and holding the button until the horn blows to indicate wheel is set. Sequence is clockwise as LF, RF, RR, LR. After last wheel, instrument panel displays "training complete"
(10) Double beep at ignition switch OFF means process was not successful. No beep indicates success. Slow response to TPMS-19 command indicates sensor battery is getting weak.

That 148 lb torque in the manual just seems wrong

 

[AzureBlueBill]

You have not had to "reprogram" TPMS sensors on Fords for at least 10 years. There are a lot of tire shops and dealers that are totally ripping off customers. Case in point: When I got my '24 Lariat I bought a set of new wheels, tires, and TPMS sensors from Tire Rack. Bolted on the new wheels and drove it 10 or so miles, and they are working perfectly. Did the same with wheels and tires on a couple Fusions ('10 & '13 models). Same thing, no reprogramming, no problems. And, when you put the factory wheels back on, same thing. Easy-peasy.

 

[Don806]

You have not had to "reprogram" TPMS sensors on Fords for at least 10 years. There are a lot of tire shops and dealers that are totally ripping off customers. Case in point: When I got my '24 Lariat I bought a set of new wheels, tires, and TPMS sensors from Tire Rack. Bolted on the new wheels and drove it 10 or so miles, and they are working perfectly. Did the same with wheels and tires on a couple Fusions ('10 & '13 models). Same thing, no reprogramming, no problems.

sorry that wasn't the case for me.........at first I thought everything was ok, as the tires all showed fine in the ford pass app and on the truck. Kept getting TPMS error (after driving more than around 20 miles) that would reset itself a while later, but the pressures never changed on the truck or the Fordpass app? I spoke with 3 different repair guys about it and they said the vehicle will need to be told it has new or different sensors installed, and also that they are in a new spot on the vehicle when you rotate tires. All 3 said the re-learn isn't as important during a rotation, but vehicle may show driver's side front being low when it might actually be driver's side rear that has the issue?

 

[Hot Runr Guy]

. Case in point: When I got my '24 Lariat I bought a set of new wheels, tires, and TPMS sensors from Tire Rack. Bolted on the new wheels and drove it 10 or so miles, and they are working perfectly.

Interesting. I tried to build a new tire & wheel package at Tirerack yesterday, and they claimed they did not have TPMS sensors available.

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[jeffrol48197]

I bought some take-off Bronco Sport wheels and installed my Blizzak tires and have had the same problem - I normally do short drives and everything is fine, but once I go over 15-20 miles the warning light is set and I have been unable to program the new sensors - once warning comes on I wait a few days and system resets itself...

 

[Don806]

I bought some take-off Bronco Sport wheels and installed my Blizzak tires and have had the same problem - I normally do short drives and everything is fine, but once I go over 15-20 miles the warning light is set and I have been unable to program the new sensors - once warning comes on I wait a few days and system resets itself...

once got the truck into "training mode" resetting the sensors worked fine. I was able to get the truck into training mode both ways mentioned here, but couldn't get them reset by letting air out, had to have the tire guy use his tool. I ended up buying my own reset tool but haven't tried it yet?

 

[MichaelG]

Swapped out my XLT rims and tires with a set of steelies last friday. picked up the rims/tires from a member here who sold his maverick. The TPMS picked up the new wheels before I got out of the parking lot of the tire shop and worked fine until Tuesday afternoon. Got a TPMS fault message but it reset itself Wednesday morning. Got the same message on the way home again today. Do the new TPMS sensors need to be programmed to the truck? The XLT rims are stored in a shed about 100' from where truck is parked each night. I've seen posts saying g they need to be relearned and also the truck will pick them up?

Procedure to teach the TPMS new locations after tire rotation

 

[AzureBlueBill]

sorry that wasn't the case for me.........at first I thought everything was ok, as the tires all showed fine in the ford pass app and on the truck. Kept getting TPMS error (after driving more than around 20 miles) that would reset itself a while later, but the pressures never changed on the truck or the Fordpass app? I spoke with 3 different repair guys about it and they said the vehicle will need to be told it has new or different sensors installed, and also that they are in a new spot on the vehicle when you rotate tires. All 3 said the re-learn isn't as important during a rotation, but vehicle may show driver's side front being low when it might actually be driver's side rear that has the issue?

You must have at least one bad sensor. They do have batteries in them, which wear out eventually. Could have been sitting on a shelf a long time and just are not working correctly anymore. Or just defective.

 

[Don806]

You must have at least one bad sensor. They do have batteries in them, which wear out eventually. Could have been sitting on a shelf a long time and just are not working correctly anymore. Or just defective.

All been working fine since the relearn, and I’ve let air out of two different ones to check them

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