Santa Cruz vs Maverick comparison - One didn't survive...

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Suspect the oil filter fell off due to service at Ford dealership.

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[Steve Urquell]

Do you know where it was built? This one (Santa Cruz) was born in ‘Bama. My 2018 Kona (Replaced with a 2024 Mav) was built in Korea, so is our 2020 Sonata. But we bought in Hawaii.

I'm not sure. Deleted the VIN pic I had of it. After my Santa Fe being so great I thought I was a Hyundai guy for life. The taste of that Tuscon will be bitter for a long time for me.

 

[TORQUERULES]

My mother in law just traded her 2021 Jeep Renegade with 15k miles for a new Bronco Sport Heritage. I cleaned it up for her before the trade and thought to check the oil. It takes a little over 4 quarts. I had to put in 3 quarts to just get it to show on the dipstick. She had had the oil changed every 5K, so it had used three quarts of oil since the last oil change.

 

[bartflossom]

After a hundred years of ice vehicles it seems like every brand is losing it's ability to make a truly reliable modern drivetrain. Ford and its wet belts. Hyundai and its grenade engines. Toyota and its sludge issues in v6s back in the 2000s and its oil consumption issues later. Nissan and its cvts. Stellantis and its puretech engines. They just seem to have gotten so complicated and there's too many points of failure. My wife had a scion with oil consumption issue, and is now driving an 2018 Tucson which is scary.

Don't hate me, but I fully plan on going EV in the next few years. Slate for me if it gets made. Equinox or similar for wife. Hoping Ford skunkworks comes through with something compelling. While I wait I'll just enjoy the snot out of my Mav and chillaxing in retirement.

 

[MavMax70]

I'm not so sure I'm completely sold on the Hyundai issues. My oldest daughter got a Santa Fe from her husbands grandma with just a pinch over 300k on it. She drove the snot out of it until they needed a bigger vehicle and that was over 350k still on it and running like a Swiss watch. I know the grandmother and asked her about maintenance and repairs. She said she did religious oil changes at 5k and something was reaired for the timing and ended up being a recall so it was no charge to her.

My mom's best friends own two Hyundai Santa Fe's and they too have had up past 300k on theirs. They got a newer o about 3 years ago and it's been solid without any issues.

I own a 22 Hyundai Elantra Limited with over 42k and not one issue except a horn replacement at the 2 year mark.

I believe one of the biggest issues of these modern GDI engines is the super high maintenance intervals of 10k miles that most manufacturers are calling for nowadays. I refuse to do that on any of my vehicles. My Elantra had a 5k service interval for the first 36k of free maintenance.

I did my own 1st oil change on the Mav at 2500 miles and it has 3500 on it now.

There are so many master mechanics for multiple brands on YouTube confirming that the 10k intervals is a huge culprit in the high oil consumption.

I know most will do what the manufacturers call for, but remember that they do everything on the cheap. Whatever is just enough to get you through the included manufacturers warranty period. I know Hyundai and Kia have the longest warranty out there, so they are cool with replacing engines I guess.

My Hyundai doesn't use a drop of oil between changes at 42k+. So I will keep doing my own intervals of 5k for now as that was the same as my local dealers policy.

 

[Tom 71 Maverick 24]

Oops!

 

[Grabber Rick]

In fairness, Maverick hybrid owners should probably remember the hundreds of postings about dead hybrids, including just stopping on the highway with family inside.

For the Maverick crowd to be slinging mud at the Santa Cruz is the height of casting stones when you live in a glass house.

If you read most of those were after recalls were performed. That is why I never had any of my recalls done. I have not experienced any issues reguarding the recalls sent out.

 

[Traegorn]

If you read most of those were after recalls were performed. That is why I never had any of my recalls done. I have not experienced any issues reguarding the recalls sent out.

Yikes my guy, I hope you don't have the recall where the engine can blow up on yours (one of the reasons I'm glad my '23 was so delayed from my original '22 order was that I missed that one).

I've gotten every recall fixed on my truck, and never had a single problem.

 

[Fcnrwy]

I'm not so sure I'm completely sold on the Hyundai issues. My oldest daughter got a Santa Fe from her husbands grandma with just a pinch over 300k on it. She drove the snot out of it until they needed a bigger vehicle and that was over 350k still on it and running like a Swiss watch. I know the grandmother and asked her about maintenance and repairs. She said she did religious oil changes at 5k and something was reaired for the timing and ended up being a recall so it was no charge to her.

My mom's best friends own two Hyundai Santa Fe's and they too have had up past 300k on theirs. They got a newer o about 3 years ago and it's been solid without any issues.

I own a 22 Hyundai Elantra Limited with over 42k and not one issue except a horn replacement at the 2 year mark.

I believe one of the biggest issues of these modern GDI engines is the super high maintenance intervals of 10k miles that most manufacturers are calling for nowadays. I refuse to do that on any of my vehicles. My Elantra had a 5k service interval for the first 36k of free maintenance.

I did my own 1st oil change on the Mav at 2500 miles and it has 3500 on it now.

There are so many master mechanics for multiple brands on YouTube confirming that the 10k intervals is a huge culprit in the high oil consumption.

I know most will do what the manufacturers call for, but remember that they do everything on the cheap. Whatever is just enough to get you through the included manufacturers warranty period. I know Hyundai and Kia have the longest warranty out there, so they are cool with replacing engines I guess.

My Hyundai doesn't use a drop of oil between changes at 42k+. So I will keep doing my own intervals of 5k for now as that was the same as my local dealers policy.

10k is a long stretch..
I have done my three, oil changes DYI.
Oil and a filter a lot chwaier, then an engine replacement...

Jerry

 

[Tall Hobbit]

From the title of this thread I had imagined the failure going the other direction:

" ...in a moment of inattention while driving the Maverick, I hit a parking bollard at 8 mph and turns out that was enough to total this unibody. Winner by default is the Santa Cruz"​

 

[Blue_Max]

From the title of this thread I had imagined the failure going the other direction:

" ...in a moment of inattention while driving the Maverick, I hit a parking bollard at 8 mph and turns out that was enough to total this unibody. Winner by default is the Santa Cruz"​

Hmm ... I don't think I'm interested in a review by such a terrible driver.

 

[Jalopy Technology]

Had just about the same issue with a (2007 I believe?) Toyota RAV4 4cyl, took it to a Toyota expert mechanic locally who works on classic Toyota cars and he let us know that it was a known/common issue with that specific engine just guzzling oil. Freaked me out to have to put in oil that frequently, it would go nearly dry if you went a full month of driving without pouring some in.

Toyota tried low tension piston rings for a couple years and had issues.

 

[Gunnar88]

Now RAM wants in on this action.
https://moparinsiders.com/ram-secures-u-s-patent-for-rampage-compact-pickup/

I saw a Rampage in Peru. It looked good.

 

[L30n1d45]

I somehow knew which one wouldn't survive before the video even started.

Hyundai engines are not known for their reliability.

 

[Fletch_KC]

I'm not so sure I'm completely sold on the Hyundai issues. My oldest daughter got a Santa Fe from her husbands grandma with just a pinch over 300k on it. She drove the snot out of it until they needed a bigger vehicle and that was over 350k still on it and running like a Swiss watch. I know the grandmother and asked her about maintenance and repairs. She said she did religious oil changes at 5k and something was reaired for the timing and ended up being a recall so it was no charge to her.

My mom's best friends own two Hyundai Santa Fe's and they too have had up past 300k on theirs. They got a newer o about 3 years ago and it's been solid without any issues.

I own a 22 Hyundai Elantra Limited with over 42k and not one issue except a horn replacement at the 2 year mark.

I believe one of the biggest issues of these modern GDI engines is the super high maintenance intervals of 10k miles that most manufacturers are calling for nowadays. I refuse to do that on any of my vehicles. My Elantra had a 5k service interval for the first 36k of free maintenance.

I did my own 1st oil change on the Mav at 2500 miles and it has 3500 on it now.

There are so many master mechanics for multiple brands on YouTube confirming that the 10k intervals is a huge culprit in the high oil consumption.

I know most will do what the manufacturers call for, but remember that they do everything on the cheap. Whatever is just enough to get you through the included manufacturers warranty period. I know Hyundai and Kia have the longest warranty out there, so they are cool with replacing engines I guess.

My Hyundai doesn't use a drop of oil between changes at 42k+. So I will keep doing my own intervals of 5k for now as that was the same as my local dealers policy.

Oil consumption issue on our 2016 Sonata cropped up around 66k miles. Something to watch for.

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