Only dumb people buy Ford Mavericks.....

[LSchicago]

Thats why they boost it.... and with Ford and Shelby engineers infinite wisdom, set it at 8.4 compression:

"The 2012 Shelby GT500 (5.4L supercharged V8) has a lower compression ratio compared to its naturally aspirated counterparts (such as the 5.0L Coyote engine) specifically to handle the added stress and heat from the supercharger.

The 2011–2012 GT500 5.4L engine has a static compression ratio of 8.4:1.

"Why the Lower Compression?
Preventing Detonation (Knock): Boosting an engine packs more air and fuel into the cylinder, increasing the pressure and temperature. A lower compression ratio provides a safety margin against detonation, which can destroy an engine.
Boost Handling: Because the supercharger forces air into the engine, the engine does not need high mechanical compression to generate power.
Comparison: While the 2012 GT500 runs an 8.4:1 ratio, the naturally aspirated 2011-2012 5.0L Coyote engine runs a much higher 11:1 compression.

Note on Later Models:
For the 2013–2014 GT500 (5.8L), Ford increased the compression ratio to 9.0:1, but the 2012 and earlier supercharged cars used the lower 8.4:1 ratio for safety and durability."

And there's more....."

"Internal combustion engines designed for superchargers (blowers) typically use a lower static compression ratio compared to naturally aspirated engines.

This is done to prevent engine damage, specifically to avoid "knock" or detonation caused by the massive increase in cylinder pressure from the blower.

Here are the key details:
Ideal Range: For supercharged gasoline engines, a static compression ratio of 7.5:1 to 9.0:1 is recommended, with 8.0:1 often cited as the optimum balance for performance and reliability.
Reasoning: When a blower forces air into the engine, it creates a much higher "effective" compression ratio. Lowering the base (static) compression allows the engine to handle higher boost levels (10+ psi) without breaking pistons or causing failure.
High vs. Low Boost: If the engine is running very low boost (3-5 psi), higher compression can be used, but as boost increases, the static compression ratio must be lowered to keep the "final" compression ratio within safe limits (usually under 12.4:1 for pump gas)."

Funny thing is, my son has a 2013 GT500 in Cali. After riding in my 2018 GT when it just had a tune, he told me that he thought my car was quicker that his supercharged Trinity. I have beat other superchaged Coyotes with just a tune in my 18 GT A10. Then I added the Procharger. Initially Lund Racing would tune for a max of 10PSI on 93. So I have both a 10psi 93 tune, and the E85 for 15psi. On 10 psi The car spun/chirped the drag radials all the way though the 5th gear shift at 95mph. Then I stepped up to 30x13.5 ET Streets, and 15psi.

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[WJOHNM]

So I must be REALLY stupid as I just bought my second .....

My last Maverick Lariat got totaled after only about 6 weeks
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/found-pictures-of-my-totaled-maverick-online.71511/

went back to F250 for a while and just decided I missed my little Maverick - so much easier to park ....so much easier to wash.......not to mention better gas mileage .....so picked up a leftover new 25 Lobo High in Velocity Blue - all ready added the rear bed spoiler and Rough Country tonneau cover....window tint next ......will probably lower and add some exhaust at some point as well......(oh yeah had to add an ST badge...I know I know...a little ricer as we would say back in the day but I think it looks cool dang it)

I have always thought Ford did a great jobs with their blues ......

I must be dumber than dirt am on number 2 also, sold my 22 FX4 with 15k on the clock to CarMax for 6k more than dealer wanted to give me and bought a 25 Lariat black out, best thing I ever did, what a truck!

 

[babytruk]

You're garage floor is interesting.

The blue car parks in the blue space and the blue truck parks in the blue space. Very nice/clean look…. And I don’t see any “baby blue” checkers.

 

[Ecorydr]

Funny thing is, my son has a 2013 GT500 in Cali. After riding in my 2018 GT when it just had a tune, he told me that he thought my car was quicker that his supercharged Trinity. I have beat other superchaged Coyotes with just a tune in my 18 GT A10. Then I added the Procharger. Initially Lund Racing would tune for a max of 10PSI on 93. So I have both a 10psi 93 tune, and the E85 for 15psi. On 10 psi The car spun/chirped the drag radials all the way though the 5th gear shift at 95mph. Then I stepped up to 30x13.5 ET Streets, and 15psi.

Mine has all the same intake plumbing as a stock '13 GT500, but, has a (aftermarket) smaller pulley on the snout, and a bigger pulley on the belt drive. I also have a bigger inter-cooler tank, radiator and pump than the stock 2012 (not sure compared to the '13?). Then, mine was tuned with all mods considered for VMP's 93 octane for max (safe) results. Never had it dyno'd, but, VMP mentioned it was the common setup they used to get 680hp at the wheels for a 2012 5.4 with same setup.

My OEM tune and plumbing was only good for 550 hp at the crank... making something like 480ish at the wheels. I didnt ever pull (after mods) againt a 350 or a Coyote, maybe occasional camaros, SRT8s, and other GT500's. But just for short distance highway runs. Mine was really more of a hobby build than anything else.

Did your son have his '13 tuned beyond OEM?

As for the pro charger, I considered setting up my '83 GT 5.0 with a Paxton SC and alcohol injection plate which at the time was called a Dominator 3 Kit at my Ford dealership in Lees Summit Mo. But read they were having issues with blowing seals out of the OEM Holley 600's. Had several other GTs fuelies after that but never experimented with any of them until my 2012 GT500.

Thanks for the reminiscing of my younger days!

 

[LSchicago]

As an old shade tree mechanic that done lots of long block rebuilds, Im not a fan of ethanol laced gas. Always try to find non-ethanol gas and pay the extra, especially for my GT500 which has to use 93 octane due to my bigger blower/pulley and tune. And yes, understand the HP advantage of ethanol and still dont like it. My daily driver and tow vehicle typically get gas where I can, but still prefer non-ethanol, or lowest ethanol, when I can get it.

Sorry, non ethanol won't work without spending $10+ a gallon for race gas. My entire fuel system has been replaced with parts designed for E85. An old shade tree mechanic probably wouldn't understand. This is how most do it now. I can't even buy ethanol free gas in my area.

 

[LSchicago]

Mine has all the same intake plumbing as a stock '13 GT500, but, has a (aftermarket) smaller pulley on the snout, and a bigger pulley on the belt drive. I also have a bigger inter-cooler tank, radiator and pump than the stock 2012 (not sure compared to the '13?). Then, mine was tuned with all mods considered for VMP's 93 octane for max (safe) results. Never had it dyno'd, but, VMP mentioned it was the common setup they used to get 680hp at the wheels for a 2012 5.4 with same setup.

My OEM tune and plumbing was only good for 550 hp at the crank... making something like 480ish at the wheels. I didnt ever pull (after mods) againt a 350 or a Coyote, maybe occasional camaros, SRT8s, and other GT500's. But just for short distance highway runs. Mine was really more of a hobby build than anything else.

Did your son have his '13 tuned beyond OEM?

As for the pro charger, I considered setting up my '83 GT 5.0 with a Paxton SC and alcohol injection plate which at the time was called a Dominator 3 Kit at my Ford dealership in Lees Summit Mo. But read they were having issues with blowing seals out of the OEM Holley 600's. Had several other GTs fuelies after that but never experimented with any of them until my 2012 GT500.

Thanks for the reminiscing of my younger days!

I Remember when having 550HP was considered fast. I still have this one.

But my 18 GT puts out almost double the HP.

Things are just different now. My son's GT500 is stock, since he's in Commiefornia.

 

[Ecorydr]

Sorry, non ethanol won't work without spending $10+ a gallon for race gas. My entire fuel system has been replaced with parts designed for E85. An old shade tree mechanic probably wouldn't understand. This is how most do it now. I can't even buy ethanol free gas in my area.

Oh... you would be wrong on that! Totally know, and, get the cost and performance advantages of ethanol. Especially a old shadetree who has been rebuilding motors since the early '70's. Just dont like its effect on valve trains, injectors, catalytic converters etc. But, I even still use it like everyone else - just dont in my stang - if I can avoid it. Here in MO, can still get it, and for about $1 more than ethanol in most cases.

 

[Ecorydr]

I Remember when having 550HP was considered fast. I still have this one.

But my 18 GT puts out almost double the HP.

Things are just different now. My son's GT500 is stock, since he's in Commiefornia.

Nice!

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

LOL...... Havent donated my Superduty yet. Wife wants to continue pulling the RV around with it.... but do know what your talking about for sure!

Here's a dumb hobby that costs even more than horses!

 

[Master Blaster]

Haha. One could legitimately argue that those driving big half and 3/4-ton pickups costing 3x as much and 3x as much fuel with 2x the insurance costs are the dumb ones, especially for the 95% of them hauling sailboat fuel or parking in real parking lots.

 

[LSchicago]

Oh... you would be wrong on that! Totally know, and, get the cost and performance advantages of ethanol. Especially a old shadetree who has been rebuilding motors since the early '70's. Just dont like its effect on valve trains, injectors, catalytic converters etc. But, I even still use it like everyone else - just dont in my stang - if I can avoid it. Here in MO, can still get it, and for about $1 more than ethanol in most cases.

I can't use premium in the Stang without going back down to 10 PSI. Cats? What cats? Lol.

 

[dochawk]

Well my wife isnt easy to live with either .......but here I am 24 years later.....

If she sees, this, I put $20 on 24 years and 3 days!

I had to pick up my old Altima about three hours away with my car hauler, so out came the F-350 Diesel reporting for Superduty.

I got a light hauler for the moment (after losing months to waffling, I just bought the cheapest one on my list, figuring to replace it once I understand what I want, and needing to be able to shuffle between back gate over desert, and the front).

Anyway, with 4k maverick, it leaves me 2,500+ lbs of capacity within rating, which would do the Altima wouldn't it?

As an old shade tree mechanic that done lots of long block rebuilds, Im not a fan of ethanol laced gas.

I think E85 is more gas laced ethanol!

I Remember when having 550HP was considered fast. I still have this one.

but that would be 550 gross, wouldn't it? So something under 400 by today's net. (conversely, todays 1,000 hp would be, very roughly, 1500 gross!)

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[Robot-Wrangler]

If she sees, this, I put $20 on 24 years and 3 days!





I got a light hauler for the moment (after losing months to waffling, I just bought the cheapest one on my list, figuring to replace it once I understand what I want, and needing to be able to shuffle between back gate over desert, and the front).

Anyway, with 4k maverick, it leaves me 2,500+ lbs of capacity within rating, which would do the Altima wouldn't it?




I think E85 is more gas laced ethanol!





but that would be 550 gross, wouldn't it? So something under 400 by today's net. (conversely, todays 1,000 hp would be, very roughly, 1500 gross!)

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I wouldn't haul a car on my tandem trailer pulled by my Maverick unless the car or UTV weighs about 1,500 lbs. Golf cart, motorcycles yeah. Altima, no.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

If she sees, this, I put $20 on 24 years and 3 days!





I got a light hauler for the moment (after losing months to waffling, I just bought the cheapest one on my list, figuring to replace it once I understand what I want, and needing to be able to shuffle between back gate over desert, and the front).

Anyway, with 4k maverick, it leaves me 2,500+ lbs of capacity within rating, which would do the Altima wouldn't it?




I think E85 is more gas laced ethanol!





but that would be 550 gross, wouldn't it? So something under 400 by today's net. (conversely, todays 1,000 hp would be, very roughly, 1500 gross!)

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I didn't mention that I did pull a car with the Maverick on a dolly.

 

[LSchicago]

If she sees, this, I put $20 on 24 years and 3 days!





I got a light hauler for the moment (after losing months to waffling, I just bought the cheapest one on my list, figuring to replace it once I understand what I want, and needing to be able to shuffle between back gate over desert, and the front).

Anyway, with 4k maverick, it leaves me 2,500+ lbs of capacity within rating, which would do the Altima wouldn't it?




I think E85 is more gas laced ethanol!





but that would be 550 gross, wouldn't it? So something under 400 by today's net. (conversely, todays 1,000 hp would be, very roughly, 1500 gross!)

​

If she sees, this, I put $20 on 24 years and 3 days!





I got a light hauler for the moment (after losing months to waffling, I just bought the cheapest one on my list, figuring to replace it once I understand what I want, and needing to be able to shuffle between back gate over desert, and the front).

Anyway, with 4k maverick, it leaves me 2,500+ lbs of capacity within rating, which would do the Altima wouldn't it?




I think E85 is more gas laced ethanol!





but that would be 550 gross, wouldn't it? So something under 400 by today's net. (conversely, todays 1,000 hp would be, very roughly, 1500 gross!)

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Not really. 550HP would be closer to net. Today's vehicles are much more efficient. 1,000 engine HP is about 850RW.

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