Next Gen Maverick

[SilverBullet2.0]

The 2.0 EB is it, no future options and this 2.0 will likely be fazed out.
One day the Maverick will be hybrid only.
Think about it, The Hybrid system is about perfect.

The hybrid systems have gotten good and robust. I'd rather not have a CVT though. They are getting to a reliable state. I had rented a hybrid Maverick while getting warranty stuff done. Pressing L when slowing down is amazing as a feel of downshifting. It's the hard accelerations to merge onto the highway is what frustrated me.

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[icegradner]

It's the hard accelerations to merge onto the highway is what frustrated me.

That's the downside to an Atkinson cycle ICE, no way around it. Nothing to do with the eCVT.

 

[Bob The Builder]

In keeping with typical automaker vehicle evolution, the Mav will become the size of the Ranger, the Ranger the size of the current F-150 and the F-150 twice as big as a Tundra minus the locomotive style front grille of the Tundra.

/sarc

 

[KO Stradivarius]

Do what Toyota did and yeet the seat. The extended cab Tacos are 2 seaters now. I'd just use it as an interior cargo area instead.

Multiple manufacturers make unibody trucks in South america, with multiple body configurations. The Fiat 700 and VW Saverio come in single cab long bed, extended cab medium bed, and crew cab short bed configs, all are unibody.

I'm so tired of the "it would cost more" excuse. Clearly its not that big of a deal, if other, less profitable markets can do it. Not to mention unibody platforms being configurable to different configs is not a new concept either. The Escape, Bronco sport, Maverick, Transit connect, and for a short while the Focus were all on the same platform, despite totally different body styles and lengths. Similarly the VW jetta, golf, sportwagen, tiguan, taos, and atlas are all the same platform, and are wildly different, with FWD, AWD, N/A, Turbo, hybrid, PHEV, and even full EV powertrains all in one configurable design.

So building an alternate config with a longer bed shouldnt take very much.

Much more likely the 205HP hybrid 2.0. The 3.5 would never fit in the Mavs engine bay and I doubt it would ever meet emission or CAFE regulations if it did.

It is a big deal. It is complicated. None of this is easy.

For example Ford has to decide if they will make a new Escape on the platform and if so that adds another model to the plant. Adding a 2nd body style to the Mav adds another level of complexity as well. It all likely comes with a huge cost and these are not high margin products. You can’t oversimplify anything in the auto business.

 

[icegradner]

In keeping with typical automaker vehicle evolution, the Mav will become the size of the Ranger, the Ranger the size of the current F-150 and the F-150 twice as big as a Tundra minus the locomotive style front grille of the Tundra.

/sarc

Locomotive grills are all the rage on new trucks, just like the size.

 

[Scupking]

The hybrid systems have gotten good and robust. I'd rather not have a CVT though. They are getting to a reliable state. I had rented a hybrid Maverick while getting warranty stuff done. Pressing L when slowing down is amazing as a feel of downshifting. It's the hard accelerations to merge onto the highway is what frustrated me.

The Maverick has an eCVT. Very different than a CVT. A eCVT is one of the most simple and reliable transmissions you can get.

 

[Pknopp]

If they go larger it will make the decision to keep mine long term far easier.

 

[Scott Asheville]

>> For example Ford has to decide if they will make a new Escape on the platform

My only (mild) disagreement is that Ford probably made these decisions years ago. The lead time for automotive is 6+ years for a new platform. Program decisions can be made as much as a decade before they hit the street.

So Ford isn't deciding anything. They're now executing on decisions made earlier this decade.

 

[Scott Asheville]

>> The Hybrid system is about perfect

I don't know that I'd agree. I'd say an EREV is the perfect hybrid, for those who want hybrids. Of course hybrids are only an overly complicated pit stop on the way to the finish flag - which is of course a solid state EV.

 

[Fcnrwy]

The next gen Maverick!! 5 Foot bed and can tow 5,000lbs!

THAT! would be a ... Ranger.

Jerry

 

[SilverBullet2.0]

THAT! would be a ... Ranger.

Jerry

You have a point or Ridgeline

 

[SilverBullet2.0]

The Maverick has an eCVT. Very different than a CVT. A eCVT is one of the most simple and reliable transmissions you can get.

The reliability is not my current concern. It's the high reving RPM that doesn't move it any faster when accelerating because there is not a gear to downshift to.

 

[babytruk]

You have a point or Ridgeline

Maybe the Maverick update will be to take the MY25+ front-end tabs and extend them over the roofline

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

It is a big deal. It is complicated. None of this is easy.

For example Ford has to decide if they will make a new Escape on the platform and if so that adds another model to the plant. Adding a 2nd body style to the Mav adds another level of complexity as well. It all likely comes with a huge cost and these are not high margin products. You can’t oversimplify anything in the auto business.

If other brands can do it, so can Ford.

It's no harder then building a sedan, hatchback, wagon, small CUV, medium CUV, and large CUV, with FWD, AWD, or RWD configs involving gasoline, diesel, hybrid, PHEV and full EV powertrains all on one platform.

"we cant do that, its too haaaaard" has never been a winning attitude.

The reliability is not my current concern. It's the high reving RPM that doesn't move it any faster when accelerating because there is not a gear to downshift to.

That's now how eCVTs work. You crank up the revs in a hybrid mav it is gonna SCOOT. The current model does 6.7 to 60 and has near immediate torque.

eCVTs are not CVTs.

>> The Hybrid system is about perfect

I don't know that I'd agree. I'd say an EREV is the perfect hybrid, for those who want hybrids. Of course hybrids are only an overly complicated pit stop on the way to the finish flag - which is of course a solid state EV.

EREVs have their own complications and downsides compared to traditional EVs and traditional hybrids.

As a hybrid, the Mav is nearly perfect.

 

[Redline]

Locomotive grills are all the rage on new trucks, just like the size.

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