New Hybrid MPG

[MetalsGeek]

Running the heater or AC will really kill your MPG. Short trips will too, because the ICE has to warm up on its initial start. You can definitely train yourself to manage when the ICE runs and get better economy. Even hybrids benefit when you minimize stops & starts. In ideal weather, I get about 45 MPG average (47.3 indicated) on errands, if I run several stops in a single outing so the ICE only has 1 warm-up. I sorta drive like my caricature avatar... LOL

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[RockHoundTX]

I think what is curious here is that the Electric Miles % is not directly related to the MPG figure, which varies from trip to trip, on a much smaller range than the Electric Miles. This is fascinating to me. I have been using the EV Coach mode. Has anybody else figured this out?

There is only a loose correlation between electric miles and MPG. The mode you have the Maverick in will impact the amount of time you are in Electric (Normal/Eco/Slippery). The more energy generation you have, the more likely you will go into Electric mode. However, energy generation impacts speed and "coastability". When I am on the highway with long rolling hills, I tend to put the Maverick in Slippery mode since I can effectively "coast" down hills with minimal power (for a brief period, I am still using the ICE but the dash says I am getting 80+MPG as I am going down the hill but not on Electric). Conversely, if I use ECO on the same hill, I alternate between Charging and ICE since taking the foot off the gas very quickly drops the speed by 5-10mph and thus have to hit the gas (which 80% of the time turns on ICE) to maintain a safe traffic speed.

 

[Cactusgrayinny]

You can have a fairly consistent % of time on electric, but how much work the ICE is doing and at what speeds when it is running can affect the MPG average lot. For instance, if you're stopped but the engine starts to generate heat because you have the climate control on that's time at effectively 0 MPG that needs to be made up.

It's also why, somewhat counterintuitively, when the ICE does start it can be more efficient for hybrids to accelerate more briskly at lower speed. Then the ICE isn't having to run as long befor you reach a steady state speed where it can transition back to electric.

Actually, I am getting a more consistent MPG (35-45 Mpg) and more sometimes. As you say if the cabin is calling for heat or defrost the ICE will need to run as soon as you turn on ignition and continue to run, as a result you wll not be getting those pure electric miles.
On one round trip up a 2000 ft elevation 20 miles each way, 65 degrees, averaging 45-55 mph, (A/C off) I got 40mpg going up . Returning I got 63 MPG for the 20 mile return. Maverick was staying in EV mode more than 50%., Most likely that I was able to sustain the battery with proper braking. I am having a very pleasing time with this vehicle. It was worth the 12 month wait for them to build it.

 

[Darnon]

The mode you have the Maverick in will impact the amount of time you are in Electric (Normal/Eco/Slippery).

Not really, at least not in any way where the fundamental behavior of the hybrid system is changed. 90% of the drive mode behavior for the Hybrid is just shifting the throttle input +/-. Yes, Eco and L can apply more max regen off-throttle, but if you maintain neutral on the energy meter you can coast just as far as Slippery would with the only difference being needing more throttle position to match that neutral position.

 

[TheSEARCH]

Picked up my new HPR Hybrid last evening. Drove it home, about 6 miles, didn’t pay any attention to the MPG dash reading. This morning, I ran some errands. Initially, I was showing 14 mpg. As I drove around, the number climbed up to about 27 over about 40 miles of city travel. I guess the computer has to “learn” from the first tank of gas?

I drove about 40 miles home from dealer mostly 1/4 45mph the rest 60 mph. I got over 48 mpg. This past August 2023 hybrid

 

[Chicolini]

Just enjoy driving your new truck. Keep your eyes on the road and NOT on the dashboard. After a couple of hundred miles, you will surely be amazed at how economical your trip has been.

Isn't there a favorite restaurant an hour or so drive away? Now is a good time to get a great meal!

 

[Alabama Maverick Owner]

Picked up my new HPR Hybrid last evening. Drove it home, about 6 miles, didn’t pay any attention to the MPG dash reading. This morning, I ran some errands. Initially, I was showing 14 mpg. As I drove around, the number climbed up to about 27 over about 40 miles of city travel. I guess the computer has to “learn” from the first tank of gas?

These are the numbers on my first tank. At the pump it was about 2 mpg less. Still amazing mileage with great comfort.

 

[Cactusgrayinny]

These are the numbers on my first tank. At the pump it was about 2 mpg less. Still amazing mileage with great comfort.

This has to be one happy camper. I had very good numbers one my first tank, but not quite as good. The Electric miles # is remarkable.

 

[Alabama Maverick Owner]

This has to be one happy camper. I had very good numbers one my first tank, but not quite as good. The Electric miles # is remarkable.

It is my wife’s “She Truck” but I think I like it better than she does.

 

[Cactusgrayinny]

I noticed on the screen shot of your instruments that the engine temperature is up in the center of the scale. Here in Upstate NY I am not getting to that. Maybe this will have to wait until Summer. We know that these Hybrids will not do as well, in cold temperature, from an efficiency standpoint.

 

[Eagle11]

Click on my Sig and see my MPG since new.

 

[Alabama Maverick Owner]

Thankfully I live on the Gulf Coast. I really do not like cold weather. We still have some here but it isn’t extreme and doesn’t last but a couple of days. However, the land in upstate NY is really beautiful in the summertime.

 

[Alabama Maverick Owner]

Click on my Sig and see my MPG since new.

Aren’t they great!!!

 

[MakinDoForNow]

There is only a loose correlation between electric miles and MPG. The mode you have the Maverick in will impact the amount of time you are in Electric (Normal/Eco/Slippery). The more energy generation you have, the more likely you will go into Electric mode. However, energy generation impacts speed and "coastability". When I am on the highway with long rolling hills, I tend to put the Maverick in Slippery mode since I can effectively "coast" down hills with minimal power (for a brief period, I am still using the ICE but the dash says I am getting 80+MPG as I am going down the hill but not on Electric). Conversely, if I use ECO on the same hill, I alternate between Charging and ICE since taking the foot off the gas very quickly drops the speed by 5-10mph and thus have to hit the gas (which 80% of the time turns on ICE) to maintain a safe traffic speed.

The drive modes standard, eco, slippery do not in and of themselves affect the mpg as much as you might think. Slippery is easier to coast in with less attention to the go pedal, eco requires more go pedal control, and standard requires a little more. When you get to speed ease back on go pedal but not enough to actually capture much into battery keeping the Regen/power needle at zero. The ice will cycle on/off as needed to keep the HVB SOC between 30-40%. When you get to x mph below your desired speed add just enough go pedal to return to desired speed. When you have to accelerate do so by slowly and continually advancing go pedal and when there back off pedal trying to minimize Regen as you do not want to brake just use enough electricity to maintain desired speed. You do not care if ice is running or not you will be driving with minimal ice usage. If can use electricity before it's stored in battery you save the charge/discharge conversion loss. Steep downhill runs will add to the HVB up to about 72% SOC. I will go down hill at about 75 and up at 65. Cruise works but costs 2-4 mpg but will be best in slippery. I normally do slippery but some can do best in standard because that's what they have perfected. Have fun there are many ways to make this thing work.

 

[Eagle11]

The drive modes standard, eco, slippery do not in and of themselves affect the mpg as much as you might think. Slippery is easier to coast in with less attention to the go pedal, eco requires more go pedal control, and standard requires a little more. When you get to speed ease back on go pedal but not enough to actually capture much into battery keeping the Regen/power needle at zero. The ice will cycle on/off as needed to keep the HVB SOC between 30-40%. When you get to x mph below your desired speed add just enough go pedal to return to desired speed. When you have to accelerate do so by slowly and continually advancing go pedal and when there back off pedal trying to minimize Regen as you do not want to brake just use enough electricity to maintain desired speed. You do not care if ice is running or not you will be driving with minimal ice usage. If can use electricity before it's stored in battery you save the charge/discharge conversion loss. Steep downhill runs will add to the HVB up to about 72% SOC. I will go down hill at about 75 and up at 65. Cruise works but costs 2-4 mpg but will be best in slippery. I normally do slippery but some can do best in standard because that's what they have perfected. Have fun there are many ways to make this thing work.

NOt 100% true, Eco gives you higher regen, so when you coast you are recharging the battery more effectively which in turn gives you more BEV range. Click on my sig to see my MPG since new

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