Good less aggressive tire for Maverick?

[LSchicago]

The only cheap tires I avoid are the ones that look really badly moulded, seem to have been made out of recycled bump stops and hope, and have extremely strange brands that are specific to that tire only like saylor mun or something. They're the ones that are 2/3 the price of other cheap tires and look like they belong on a wheelbarrow or BBQ.

Otherwise, I have had better luck with "bottom tier" brands than others. Tires that have actually exploded on me at normal highway speeds resulting in near death experiences have been one bridgestone and one continental. Those two and goodyear have also developed bulges on me, at 30-40k or so where prorated warranty was refused stating damage, well you sell tires for these roads, I been driving these roads not slamming rocks in the gobi desert. Had one Kumho bulge out of many more samples, and got excellent life out of most cheapies I've run. (Kumho might have gained respect now, but it was not well regarded some 15-20 years ago)

Frequently among the up and coming brands, the tire is a retired design from one of the majors, and retirement might be for marketing reasons, or maybe even that it was "too good" so they didn't sell repeats often enough. So the lower tier guys get a deal on the moulds/equipment and bang them out at low margins.

Well as said above, I gotta judge things on a per-tire basis, even in the same tire model, sometimes you get the lower diameters made at different place, have tread variances, the 195/60/R15 is not the same tire as the 225/65/R17 etc.

Yes, I've blown out too many Firestones and have had bad luck with Goodyears too. These Crossmax CHTS1 truly are great tires. I had them on a previous truck, and have them on 2 vehicles now. Zero issues.

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[ScottyC]

....Those two and goodyear have also developed bulges on me, at 30-40k or so where prorated warranty was refused stating damage.....

When you see a bulge or "egg" on the sidewall of a tire, it means only one thing...at some point within the last 3-5 weeks, you hit a big enough pothole or curb and damaged the inner bladder by what is known as an "impact pinch break" caused by the rim and the offending pothole/curb actually pinching the tire sidewall between the two....the resulting "break" in the inner bladder will cause air to slowly leak between the carcass and exterior rubber and create the aforementioned bulge or "egg" in the sidewall....the leak process takes a few weeks to develop and the initial damage incident is typically forgotten.

This info was when I sold tires at Montgomery Ward Auto Express and they sent me to the Michelin tire plant in SC for training.

PS: Michelin acknowledged that they too make defective tires, but their inspection process leads to them not actually selling them.

 

[Escapologist]

No I didn't even count those, know those are kerb damage or sometimes a sharp going up the sidewall, I'm talking bulges in the tread area, on unrepaired tires.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

A simple search says: Crossmax tires are produced in France and are under the ownership and promotion of Horizon Tire Inc., a U.S.-based private brand marketer and distributor.

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Pros

• Good dry performance
• Comfortable and quiet
• Reasonably priced
• Decent wet and light snow performance

Cons

• Limited traction on moderate to heavy snow conditions

Probably a former Michelin plant.
It seems Michelin has closed a couple plants in France that made small truck tires 17-18". A segment that is on the downward trend in Europe.
https://www.michelin.com/en/publica...ntion-to-close-the-cholet-and-vannes-sites-cp

I could very well be that crossmax tires are produced in France at one of these closed factories.

 

[TheRealEman]

I’m in my 60s and, over the years, have purchased nearly every tire brand out there. The only set I was disappointed in were Goodyear Assurance tires. They rode ok but the tread wear was pathetic. Paid more, got less.

 

[Escapologist]

The top brand high mileage tires I have had, just seemed to eke out the advertised figure, but were kind of "no surprises, because the grip is equally bad in all conditions" ... I tended to start hating them before they were 1/4 through, also kinda suspected they put a soft compound on the first 1/32 so you didn't return them on satisfaction guarantee.

 

[CajunMick]

Not yet worried of my OEM tires. They still going at 7,000+ miles. Regardless my feelings is” I hate buying tires!”

Wife’s 2017 Escape needed tires. After through research, elected to go with Continental brand. They are doing swell, .get rotated often. When I saw my Mav had Continentals, I was pleased.

My 2012 F250 diesel came with General. Bad. Not good stuff. Switched to Cooper. Had great success with them.

 

[Captain Wingflap]

I LOVE my Michelin Defender 2 tires. OEM Continentals tread was at the wear bar at only 28,000 miles of normal driving. The Michelins don't squeal going around the cloverleaf at 35 mph like the OEM tires did. They stick. They're quiet. And they're known for long tread life. A bit over $750 installed at my dealer's companion tire shop - after a $100 veteran discount. Worth every penny.

I agree. Virtually every used car I have bought over the years, the first thing I did was to replace whatever tires were on the car with Michelins. I figured it was cheap insurance. Never had a problem.

 

[lajlmt]

I LOVE my Michelin Defender 2 tires. OEM Continentals tread was at the wear bar at only 28,000 miles of normal driving. The Michelins don't squeal going around the cloverleaf at 35 mph like the OEM tires did. They stick. They're quiet. And they're known for long tread life. A bit over $750 installed at my dealer's companion tire shop - after a $100 veteran discount. Worth every penny.

My 15k continentals look like they are at 35k! They make the sound of a peacock when I make a slow turn in a circular

 

[ListedGuru]

I LOVE my Michelin Defender 2 tires. OEM Continentals tread was at the wear bar at only 28,000 miles of normal driving. The Michelins don't squeal going around the cloverleaf at 35 mph like the OEM tires did. They stick. They're quiet. And they're known for long tread life. A bit over $750 installed at my dealer's companion tire shop - after a $100 veteran discount. Worth every penny.

Do you notice any difference in your MPG's with the Defender 2's vs the OEM Conti's? My wife has an Escape hybrid (225 60 R18) so larger tire but I'm doing my due diligence on tires to replace her OEM Michelin tires (can't remember the model name). I just picked up my 25 Maverick Hybrid AWD a month ago (500 miles now) so hopefully the OEM Conti's are good on it for a little while yet

 

[JJach951]

Has anyone tried these. They are buy 2 get two free.

 

[LSchicago]

I agree. Virtually every used car I have bought over the years, the first thing I did was to replace whatever tires were on the car with Michelins. I figured it was cheap insurance. Never had a problem.

My experience with Michelin is that they tend to dry rot quickly. Sometimes before they are mounted.

 

[dbp]

I LOVE my Michelin Defender 2 tires. OEM Continentals tread was at the wear bar at only 28,000 miles of normal driving. The Michelins don't squeal going around the cloverleaf at 35 mph like the OEM tires did. They stick. They're quiet. And they're known for long tread life. A bit over $750 installed at my dealer's companion tire shop - after a $100 veteran discount. Worth every penny.

I agree. I settled on the Michelin Defender 2 for all my vehicles. Quiet, handle as well or better that any other I've tried and great tread life. I drove my 24 Maverick home from the dealer (32 miles) last February and put on 4 new rims and Michelin Ice-X tires that afternoon. Put the Michelin Defender 2 tires on the original rims and sold the Continentals on marketplace for $400 (more than I would pay for them!!!) Changed to the Defenders in April and continue to be very happy with the choice. Highly recommend them.....

 

[tom_tucker]

I agree. I settled on the Michelin Defender 2 for all my vehicles. Quiet, handle as well or better that any other I've tried and great tread life. I drove my 24 Maverick home from the dealer (32 miles) last February and put on 4 new rims and Michelin Ice-X tires that afternoon. Put the Michelin Defender 2 tires on the original rims and sold the Continentals on marketplace for $400 (more than I would pay for them!!!) Changed to the Defenders in April and continue to be very happy with the choice. Highly recommend them.....

That's the thing though, I only drive 15k annually. I have X-ice too. It makes me want a summer tire that wears out a little quicker. Like rated 500-600 or so. The defenders would last me 8 summers and I'd rather get new tires every 5 years. Mich primacy is an option for me, Firestone Destination L2 or 3. Or just a retail pair of the contis.

BTW, that's a good haul for the contis, lol...

 

[dbp]

That's the thing though, I only drive 15k annually. I have X-ice too. It makes me want a summer tire that wears out a little quicker. Like rated 500-600 or so. The defenders would last me 8 summers and I'd rather get new tires every 5 years. Mich primacy is an option for me, Firestone Destination L2 or 3. Or just a retail pair of the contis.

BTW, that's a good haul for the contis, lol...

I have the Maverick, and a 2012 Transit Connect. I drive each of them about 8500 miles a year. I have run the Michelin Defenders for over 5 year summers, and am on my second set of Ice X tires in 12 years. (3rd winter on them I believe) No dry rot, no appreciable difference in performance. I expect the same results from the Maverick.

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