2025 AWD Hybrid CV joints failing?

[Frenchy]

Anyone know anything on the cv joints on the baby bronco, are they the same and do they have the same issue?

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[Mickeybob]

On CV joints failing.. where do they fail ,inboard or outer ? Is it problem leaking grease or they were assembled dry at the factory .? Is it a boot or clamps failure, or soft ,incorrect heat treated metal failure ? Maybe we can fix these before they go bad . It would sure be cheaper

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

On CV joints failing.. where do they fail ,inboard or outer ? Is it problem leaking grease or they were assembled dry at the factory .? Is it a boot or clamps failure, or soft ,incorrect heat treated metal failure ? Maybe we can fix these before they go bad . It would sure be cheaper

When you hear clicking while turning then be concerned. It's already been fixed on the 2025 my with stronger cv axles. Everybody is so worried about a small lift. Guess what happens when you turn a corner at WOT? Even more cv axle angularity and the highest torque loading. Now add some shock loading from a small slick patch giving tire spin then grab. There's the Tripple Louie! Lol. Yawn, this is so boring. 🥱

 

[710-oil-614]

Guess what happens when you turn a corner at WOT

I mean - I don't think there are a lot of maverick owners taking corners at WOT.

 

[Reece @ DI]

2022 Hybrid XLT LUX and BOTH my CVs failed just below 31k miles. Never towed anything, still stock. The CVs were an issue and they were redesigned for late 2024s. 2025s will all have the new CVs and from what I have been seeing, there has not been any issues with these OR with any that have been replaced (as long as it is the new part number). Time will tell if this is fixed completely. Tremors have different CVs and I am not 100% here but the Lobos should have different CVs as well.

 

[Phimosis]

I mean - I don't think there are a lot of maverick owners taking corners at WOT.

There may not be many, but there are definitely some of us that do. Out in open sand dunes, the more throttle you use, the faster you can get the front to turn.
I’ve been at full throttle at low speed with front wheels turned, not full lock, but definitely up to 30 degrees, a bunch of times.

 

[Chops]

There may not be many, but there are definitely some of us that do. Out in open sand dunes, the more throttle you use, the faster you can get the front to turn.
I’ve been at full throttle at low speed with front wheels turned, not full lock, but definitely up to 30 degrees, a bunch of times.

Have you changed your motor oil yet? I seemed to remember you were at 14,000 miles and counting?

 

[710-oil-614]

There may not be many, but there are definitely some of us that do. Out in open sand dunes, the more throttle you use, the faster you can get the front to turn.
I’ve been at full throttle at low speed with front wheels turned, not full lock, but definitely up to 30 degrees, a bunch of times.

It’s not that every CV axle is going to fail it’s that an unusual amount are failing and that can be attributed to a very poor design spec at minimum.

 

[Phimosis]

Have you changed your motor oil yet? I seemed to remember you were at 14,000 miles and counting?

Indeed, I have changed my motor oil. The intelligent oil life monitor alerted me at 5,950 miles that I was down to 10% oil life and that I should change my oil soon.

 

[Phimosis]

It’s not that every CV axle is going to fail it’s that an unusual amount are failing and that can be attributed to a very poor design spec at minimum.

I completely agree with that. People with bone stock mavericks that never drive them hard or do any towing end up with CV’s failing at 30k miles. I was just addressing the very specific comment about maverick drivers not taking corners at WOT. I drive my maverick hard. I have 40 lb oversized AT4W’s on it. I have the 2” lift kit. I’m fully expecting my cv joints to fail in 15k miles.

On the flip side, I have an 9 year old awd tesla
Model S that makes 480 hp, 480 lb ft, and I use full throttle on it multiple times per day. Many times in corners. Many times launching it from stop lights on damp pavement and going across crosswalk paint stripes, where it can spin and then hook up hard, causing shock loads. After 140k miles of daily abuse, the all original drive train works perfectly. No strange noises. No CV vibrations. They designed them strong.

On the Maverick? Not so much.

 

[710-oil-614]

I completely agree with that. People with bone stock mavericks that never drive them hard or do any towing end up with CV’s failing at 30k miles. I was just addressing the very specific comment about maverick drivers not taking corners at WOT. I drive my maverick hard. I have 40 lb oversized AT4W’s on it. I have the 2” lift kit. I’m fully expecting my cv joints to fail in 15k miles.

On the flip side, I have an 9 year old awd tesla
Model S that makes 480 hp, 480 lb ft, and I use full throttle on it multiple times per day. Many times in corners. Many times launching it from stop lights on damp pavement and going across crosswalk paint stripes, where it can spin and then hook up hard, causing shock loads. After 140k miles of daily abuse, the all original drive train works perfectly. No strange noises. No CV vibrations. They designed them strong.

On the Maverick? Not so much.

Correct but you’ve also made comments about the MTC commentariat and CV axles that seem to think you don’t believe that Ford has a problem on their hands.

I beat the fuck out of my model 3 performance over 15k miles and never once worried about the drivetrain.

 

[Phimosis]

Correct but you’ve also made comments about the MTC commentariat and CV axles that seem to think you don’t believe that Ford has a problem on their hands.

I beat the fuck out of my model 3 performance over 15k miles and never once worried about the drivetrain.

Oh no. Every time someone tries to blame CV failures on a lift kit or lowered, or driving style, or towing history, I immediately point out that the majority of CV failures are on stock rigs with no towing history. The 2022-2024
CV failures are 100% an engineering flaw. I’ve never said or implied that these failures are owner induced.

 

[wessermgm]

The new CV axles have seemingly solved the issue for unmodified vehicles. Lifting a unibody Maverick is going to cause premature CV axle failure regardless of the new part#.

For years the old XJ Jeep Cherokees were unibody and tons of folks lifted them 3" without problem. Never really a problem with any components, including CV. If the CV axles are quality, then then type of 1-2" lift people are putting on the Mav shouldn't be an issue. Whereas the utter crap CVs that were on the 22-24s, any additional stress was too much as they failed plenty under OEM conditions. Time will tell if these redesigned units are good enough, but the mere fact that the Maverick is unibody shouldn't preclude you from a small spring or spacer lift.

 

[710-oil-614]

For years the old XJ Jeep Cherokees were unibody and tons of folks lifted them 3" without problem. Never really a problem with any components, including CV. If the CV axles are quality, then then type of 1-2" lift people are putting on the Mav shouldn't be an issue. Whereas the utter crap CVs that were on the 22-24s, any additional stress was too much as they failed plenty under OEM conditions. Time will tell if these redesigned units are good enough, but the mere fact that the Maverick is unibody shouldn't preclude you from a small spring or spacer lift.

Depending on how the initial suspension geometry is set up will determine what you can and cannot do with a lift.

Until you compare stock geometry you cannot throw out the CJ as a comparison.

 

[Maverick123]

XJ Jeep Cherokees had live axles, it's a completely different setup. You can lift those as much as you want you might get driveshaft issues but never CV joint issues because the axles always stay in line with the center of the wheels ...

PS are the Mavericks with bad axles mainly FWD or AWD, or does it make a difference? Putting 240 hp through 2 axles (FWD) is different from putting it through 4 axles (AWD)

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