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Ford does have a software update that charges the battery to 13 volts.
Please document this update with a link or with the Service bulletin number. I’m sure many folks would like to investigate such a change.
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It really is funny how many opinions we have on what is the cause and what the solution "Should Be". Many also.make ecuses or try to blame the way a customer uses the vehicle. I have a feeling this is Ford techs trying to defend Fords inability to find answers on one of many recall issues of poor quality. Example of a recall on 105000 Mustangs with a coolant leak going on for about a year. Ford recently said there would be a fix in April 2026.....WTF.
From what I've been reading on forums over the YEARS, dealers have been left to come up with their own solutions based on testing and vehicle location. From my experience, my dealer has tried their best to help me out. They know I'm done with this game.
 

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My 24 Ecoboost’s Factory AGM fully charges.
Only eight months of ownership and I have not seen sleep mode, even after a two week sit in freezing weather.
I’d suspect there is an update you missed.
I keep my auto update enabled so I can Fagetaboutit:’P
Was it not almost new when you had the freezing weather? My Maverick was delivered in November (upstate SC), saw a fair amount of freezing weather that Winter and never had battery saving symptoms until the following Fall. I had the original FLA battery then.
 

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If the update in question is the SSM53801, well I can tell you it didn't help my 24 Lariat hybrid at all. Even with the installation of a brand new FoMoCo AGM battery. The last recorded SOC was 17%. I'll be taking it back in for the 4th time next week for the same issue.
 

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If the update in question is the SSM53801, well I can tell you it didn't help my 24 Lariat hybrid at all. Even with the installation of a brand new FoMoCo AGM battery. The last recorded SOC was 17%. I'll be taking it back in for the 4th time next week for the same issue.
Sounds like you have a battery drain somewhere besides the HVAC module, either that or the SSM did not take. Perhaps @Darryl can provide additional possibilities as he's well versed in these repairs.
 

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Sounds like you have a battery drain somewhere besides the HVAC module, either that or the SSM did not take. Perhaps @Darryl can provide additional possibilities as he's well versed in these repairs.
A few questions determine the next path. Does the battery discharge randomly or predictably after sitting x amount of time? If it discharges predictably after sitting, then it may have an actual issue that can be found and duplicated. The normal diagnostics process may reveal it. If it's random or unpredictable, the tech needs to consult Ford's tech support hotline and describe in detail what they have already done and in what order. If I was the tech, I'd update EVERY module that has an available update. Then I'd retest the battery with Ford's tester and allow it to FULLY charge the battery. I've had a battery pass the preliminary test only to end up failing it after the machine finishes its full charge process. Finally, i'd perform the battery monitor reset AFTER everything has been done. When contacting hotline it's important for the tech AND the customer to be patient since sometimes they'll send it to an escalation team. And it may take a while for them to respond because they're studying the information sent by the scan tool. Some technicians do better when they actually talk live rather than sending written information back and forth. It's important for the tech to be the type that's DETERMINED to get to the bottom of it rather than one who may be an excellent tech but doesn't have the patience to deal with this type of problem. Fair warning: the way most techs are paid make them want to RUN from your problem because he's likely to LOSE HIS SHIRT unless he finds the problem quickly. Technicians get paid flat rate. And it's highly unlikely he'll get paid for ALL his time because it's difficult to get paid for diagnosis time beyond a certain amount. So he may take a break from your truck in the middle of the job to fix a car he KNOWS he can get paid for, so he can get a decent paycheck next week. And who can blame him because no one wants to starve while figuring out a difficult job. My dealership pays me by the clock because they give me the difficult jobs. But I'm not to tell anyone because it could cause conflict. Some suspect it. But they don't know for certain. It's just that unusual for a shop to do this. But I digress. But it explains why it's sometimes difficult to get a proper diagnosis on a difficult vehicle.
 

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To Hack, since the battery saver mode (aka deep sleep) has been a known issue since they began production of the hybrid, I think it may be worth a shot to plead a warranty case with your dealer even though it has expired. You have nothing to lose by trying.
I just had my '24 hybrid in at the second dealership as the national service rep suggested and they confirmed my second battery was bad. I told them I did NOT want another of the BXT flooded batteries installed since their high rate of failure would probably just lead to another failure down the road. I stated to install an AGM only. Ford parts shows the BAGM-H4 as the battery for this truck now. Ford refused to honor the warranty and would not pay for either the battery or the work the dealer did although the national service rep sent me there. The NHTSA will be hearing from me again.
 

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You weren't given a lithium battery.
Which probably couldn't even be charged correctly.
I've never heard of a 12v lithium car battery, and it doesn't look like anything other than a LED acid battery. Maybe the guy was trying to impress me.
 
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A few questions determine the next path. Does the battery discharge randomly or predictably after sitting x amount of time? If it discharges predictably after sitting, then it may have an actual issue that can be found and duplicated. The normal diagnostics process may reveal it. If it's random or unpredictable, the tech needs to consult Ford's tech support hotline and describe in detail what they have already done and in what order. If I was the tech, I'd update EVERY module that has an available update. Then I'd retest the battery with Ford's tester and allow it to FULLY charge the battery. I've had a battery pass the preliminary test only to end up failing it after the machine finishes its full charge process. Finally, i'd perform the battery monitor reset AFTER everything has been done. When contacting hotline it's important for the tech AND the customer to be patient since sometimes they'll send it to an escalation team. And it may take a while for them to respond because they're studying the information sent by the scan tool. Some technicians do better when they actually talk live rather than sending written information back and forth. It's important for the tech to be the type that's DETERMINED to get to the bottom of it rather than one who may be an excellent tech but doesn't have the patience to deal with this type of problem. Fair warning: the way most techs are paid make them want to RUN from your problem because he's likely to LOSE HIS SHIRT unless he finds the problem quickly. Technicians get paid flat rate. And it's highly unlikely he'll get paid for ALL his time because it's difficult to get paid for diagnosis time beyond a certain amount. So he may take a break from your truck in the middle of the job to fix a car he KNOWS he can get paid for, so he can get a decent paycheck next week. And who can blame him because no one wants to starve while figuring out a difficult job. My dealership pays me by the clock because they give me the difficult jobs. But I'm not to tell anyone because it could cause conflict. Some suspect it. But they don't know for certain. It's just that unusual for a shop to do this. But I digress. But it explains why it's sometimes difficult to get a proper diagnosis on a difficult vehicle.
We should all just wish our techs are as dedicated as Darryl. Sadly, very few are
 

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I've never heard of a 12v lithium car battery, and it doesn't look like anything other than a LED acid battery. Maybe the guy was trying to impress me.
Impress or total lack of understanding on the subject.
Not sure which is worse or more concerning.
 

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We should all just wish our techs are as dedicated as Darryl. Sadly, very few are
As Darryl mentioned - it's the pay.

If Ford was able to receive word that a tech had an unusual issue, and release the funds for proper investigation to work with their experts - it would help a lot.

But then you probably would have the normal issue of some techs attempting engagement without doing normal due diligence - now engaging some tech with Ford with an issue that turns out to be simple and an already written process to follow, and no extra funds are released. So who gets burned with no pay for the mistake?
Will the tech learn to avoid that route in the future, kick the can further down the road?

It's got to be aggravating, almost all the way around, at least for the customer.
 
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We should all just wish our techs are as dedicated as Darryl. Sadly, very few are
Thank you. The truth is that all techs have their strengths and weaknesses. Some are excellent at doing the actual repairs but aren't great at diagnostics. For example, we have a tech that can install a cylinder head in less time than the warranty pays. But is lost if a spark plug doesn't fix a misfire. He'll shotgun it with parts. Meanwhile, I'll take the time to diagnose a difficult problem. But will take twice as long to replace a cylinder head than him. One problem is that the pay plan will starve a mechanic who spends 2 days diagnosing an electrical issue while rewarding the guy who can quickly sling parts.
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