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I picked up on Tim not wanting to discuss allocations the other night as well. Allocation rules change by the day. Personally, I do not give a damn what they say today as it will change a ton of times before and IF my Maverick comes in.

On the bright side, got sick of waiting for the dealer to change my email address to the correct one after two weeks so I contacted Ford myself and got it done with their help of course.
Bob, Did that correct your email issue? Working now? I have given my email address to customer care every time I have spoken to them and still no emails from Ford from my 2022 order or my new 2023 order.
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that's not actually how it works.

Ford did specifically say that XL hybrids were less likely to be built. to me that means they knew they would have more than enough hybrid orders (of course) and they're going to prefer to build XLT and Lariat.
Completely agree, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ford is almost breaking even on the XL as a “Loss Leader” to bring people to the door, but recognizing they got what they wanted, now it’s time to ramp up profits. Many here on the forum have echoed this sentiment.

To bring this thread back toward the OP’s initial post, ideally a dealership should under-promise and over-deliver. I surely hope this dealership isn’t confusing customers into making assumptions about their orders. I hope this dealership gets their allocations but historically, larger dealerships dominate the allocation process.
 
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that's not actually how it works.
Yep - I fully understand the information you've repeated in your post. It's all over this forum. My order is a priority 10, as are ALL of the orders ahead of mine in the dealer's order list.

I realize that my particular combination of features might or might not get picked by Ford to be built, but at least I know it won't be because the dealer didn't have enough allocated to them... This thread is about dealers receiving adequate allocations, since some were originally reporting they only received 1 (one) Maverick allocation for the entire year. (And none of us really bought that notion...)
 

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Hello fellow Floridian! I hope you’re doing okay after this rather stressful rash of weather, and all.

I have to humbly disagree with you as this is Ford’s system that they created and Long McArthur is just playing the game. I don’t think Tim should be the face of Long McArthur’s business strategy. Ford prioritizes dealerships that turn over inventory and if Ling McArthur wants to take a bunch of orders, fine. I don’t look harshly on Tim or Long McArthur for “playing the game”, to get future allocations.

There is no disputing that dealerships that sell more get more allocations. I only want the OP to temper their optimism with a little pinch of cynicism.
Thank you, we're surviving! Hope all is well for you!

Unfortunately, I still think Tim and LM are in for some disappointment. They may have played the game as best as they thought possible, but I think they were making up their own rules instead of following Ford's vague and questionable rules! And for that, there will be consequences much like breaking the rules in any other game. I think LM will have a lot of disgruntled folks come next year if/when they still have hundreds of unfilled hybrid orders, hopefully I am wrong! I'm also sure it would have been extremely difficult to turn potential customers away, but other dealers (such as Granger Ford) had no problem doing so because they read Ford's rules differently. You're right though, it is certainly a game that Ford is hosting. Unfortunately the game is rigged and nobody knows how or when Ford will move the goal post once more!
 

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Thank you, we're surviving! Hope all is well for you!

Unfortunately, I still think Tim and LM are in for some disappointment. They may have played the game as best as they thought possible, but I think they were making up their own rules instead of following Ford's vague and questionable rules! And for that, there will be consequences much like breaking the rules in any other game. I think LM will have a lot of disgruntled folks come next year if/when they still have hundreds of unfilled hybrid orders, hopefully I am wrong! I'm also sure it would have been extremely difficult to turn potential customers away, but other dealers (such as Granger Ford) had no problem doing so because they read Ford's rules differently. You're right though, it is certainly a game that Ford is hosting. Unfortunately the game is rigged and nobody knows how or when Ford will move the goal post once more!
Sounds like Tim and LM were making assumptions and you know what that gets you.

Still, I think there isn't really anything shared we haven't already known. We knew before the floodgates opened the hybrids would be in short supply and if dealers knowingly took more hybrid orders, then that was a risk they took. If the numbers provided are to believed, 80% of the orders LM took were hybrid. Ford said to allow only 35% for hybrid. So, why are we surprised LM's allocations are lower?

Compare that to mine who actively steered people away from hybrids (not a hard task in Alabama). I'm willing to bet my dealer gets all of their retail orders cleared before LM.
 

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Thank you, we're surviving! Hope all is well for you!

Unfortunately, I still think Tim and LM are in for some disappointment. They may have played the game as best as they thought possible, but I think they were making up their own rules instead of following Ford's vague and questionable rules! And for that, there will be consequences much like breaking the rules in any other game. I think LM will have a lot of disgruntled folks come next year if/when they still have hundreds of unfilled hybrid orders, hopefully I am wrong! I'm also sure it would have been extremely difficult to turn potential customers away, but other dealers (such as Granger Ford) had no problem doing so because they read Ford's rules differently. You're right though, it is certainly a game that Ford is hosting. Unfortunately the game is rigged and nobody knows how or when Ford will move the goal post once more!
Completely agree. There is absolutely NO foreseeable route where Long McArthur builds all their order and I do feel that maybe Tim kinda put his foot in his mouth, inviting all other unbuilt 22 orders over to their dealership. Even though some customers will be disappointed, I feel he was doing it with good intentions, so I don’t fault him.

Some had said that it was “irresponsible” to take some many orders but Hey, it’s not his dealership and Tim has a job to do. Selling vehicles is the goal and taking orders is the start of that process. What I do know is they have a reputation of taking care of their customers and that is why they have so many orders.
 

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Hey, I wish you best of luck but if Tim from Long McArthur Ford, whom in most people’s eyes, is the MOST open dealer here in the forum, doesn’t want to talk about this year’s allocations, that means it ain’t good. Allocations are down and even the large dealerships are hoping they get more.

Settling in, it is going to be a VERY long road, full of setbacks and disappointment. This is just the unfortunate process.
Who knows but I am thinking that some of the allocations are possibly reserved until they figure out exactly which dealer will get the 2022 reorders as 2023' then Ford can place that allocation.
 

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Who knows but I am thinking that some of the allocations are possibly reserved until they figure out exactly which dealer will get the 2022 reorders as 2023' then Ford can place that allocation.
Plausible, for sure. I selfishly hope this is a priority of Ford Corp. but who knows. They have a track record of building orders based on several factors and profit is the name of the game.
 

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Who knows but I am thinking that some of the allocations are possibly reserved until they figure out exactly which dealer will get the 2022 reorders as 2023' then Ford can place that allocation.
I think the problem is they didn't exactly create an avenue to clearly identify those orders unless the 2022 credit is tied to a specific order from a dealer and Ford has a way to filter down to those. While the 22 rollovers were encouraged to be put at the highest priority, there is no way to enforce it and the dealers who had no rollovers are just going to put all their orders at the highest priority.
 

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I think the problem is they didn't exactly create an avenue to clearly identify those orders unless the 2022 credit is tied to a specific order from a dealer and Ford has a way to filter down to those. While the 22 rollovers were encouraged to be put at the highest priority, there is no way to enforce it and the dealers who had no rollovers are just going to put all their orders at the highest priority.
Agreed and what really gets ugly is if you ordered more than one 22 build. Do you get a rebate credit for all your orders or just one per person? Really strange manner of handling an issue that Ford Corp. handled very differently in the Branco rollovers.
 
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I think the problem is they didn't exactly create an avenue to clearly identify those orders unless the 2022 credit is tied to a specific order from a dealer and Ford has a way to filter down to those. While the 22 rollovers were encouraged to be put at the highest priority, there is no way to enforce it and the dealers who had no rollovers are just going to put all their orders at the highest priority.
The highest priority is meaningless outside of the dealership. The dealership could put them all at 10 or all at 19 and it makes zero difference to Ford. Ford will offer an allocation to the dealer and the highest priority order will get that vehicle. At least that is how it is been explained to me. Putting all the orders in at 10 will not make it more likely for ford to allocate vehicles to that dealer.
 

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The highest priority is meaningless outside of the dealership. The dealership could put them all at 10 or all at 19 and it makes zero difference to Ford. Ford will offer an allocation to the dealer and the highest priority order will get that vehicle. At least that is how it is been explained to me. Putting all the orders in at 10 will not make it more likely for ford to allocate vehicles to that dealer.
Yes, I'm aware. But if Ford drew a line and said "don't put anything but 22 rollovers as a 10" then they could set up their allocations to fill the tens from everyone first. But since they didn't, there is no way to truly identify the MY22 rollover overs.
 

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Tim didn't divulge a number but he said they were significantly under what they expected and were likely incorrect.

He also seemed to be annoyed that they weren't based off total dealer sales like they were originally told they would be and only off sales of maverick, escape, and bs. I wasn't totally following him there.


He was miffed because they are basing allocations off of past sales and many of the 22's have not been received yet. I forget the number, but quite a few in production, in shipping, and on hold.
 

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Yes, I'm aware. But if Ford drew a line and said "don't put anything but 22 rollovers as a 10" then they could set up their allocations to fill the tens from everyone first. But since they didn't, there is no way to truly identify the MY22 rollover overs.
yes, I have no idea how ford knows, although if there is a rebate involved there must be tracking on that. Tim definitely said that the 63 orders they had coming in next month were for 22 rollovers. I don't exactly know how that was determined. Even he said they errored and set some customers to 10 that were not rollovers.
 
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Hello fellow Floridian! I hope you’re doing okay after this rather stressful rash of weather, and all.

I have to humbly disagree with you as this is Ford’s system that they created and Long McArthur is just playing the game. I don’t think Tim should be the face of Long McArthur’s business strategy. Ford prioritizes dealerships that turn over inventory and if Ling McArthur wants to take a bunch of orders, fine. I don’t look harshly on Tim or Long McArthur for “playing the game”, to get future allocations.

There is no disputing that dealerships that sell more get more allocations. I only want the OP to temper their optimism with a little pinch of cynicism.
I wouldn't say I am optimistic or cynical. I posted because most everything I have read shows crazy low allocations. I am hopeful the allocations are not as bad as has been reported and just to provide a perspective on what I was told. Allocations are only 1 piece of the puzzle as constraints also have to figure into equation if my vehicle will get built.
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