What’s new: changes for 2023 Maverick

[jsus]

So what Im hearing is I get my 23 rollover XLT FX4K transformed into a XLT Tremor. And I get to add bedrails without all the luxury crap. Sounds delicious to me.

Tremor will not get the PCO for getting bumped to a MY23 order. Factor the loss of the $1,750 you won't get into your pricing expectations.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...ffer-amounts-hybrid-2750-ecoboost-1750.20116/

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[mtd14]

So the packages are...?

XL

• CP360
  • BLIS & Lane Keeping

XLT

• CP360
• XLT Lux
  • 8P/6W seats
  • 400W/110V
  • Heated Seats
  • Heated Mirror
  • Leather Steering Wheel
  • LED Box Lighting
  • Trailer hitch
  • Windshield Wiper De-Icer
  • Key FOB Remote Start
  • Drop-in Bed liner
  • Bed tie-down rails
• Tremor Off Road
• Tremor Appearance (requires Tremor off Road)
• Black Appearance

Lariat

• CP360
• Lariat Lux
  • 4 way head rest
  • 400W/110V
  • B&O Sound System
  • Heated Seats
  • Heated Mirror
  • Leather Steering Wheel
  • LED Box Lighting
  • Sirius XM
  • Sync 3
  • 8" touchscreen
  • Trailer hitch
  • Windshield Wiper De-Icer
  • Apple Car Play
  • AppLink
  • Smart charging usb ports
  • Wireless Charging pad
  • Voice activated touch screen (new)
  • Key FOB Remote Start
  • Drop-in Bed liner
  • Bed tie-down rails
• CP360 Assist
  • Adaptive Cruise Control
  • Evasive Steer Assist
  • Rear Parking Sensors
• Tremor Off Road
• Tremor Appearance (requires Tremor off Road)
• Black Appearance

 

[mtd14]

supply allocations

35% Hybrid and only 40% CP360 seems like a heck of a bottleneck.

 

[DavesMav]

I don't know how to make that out. If someone wanted a Hybrid XL but 15% of all orders were already that - then you just wouldn't get one?

The probability of getting an XL Hybrid built in 2023 will likely be even lower. Only 35% of all builds can be hybrid, AND only 15% of all builds can be XL, that sums to only 5.25% of all builds being BOTH Hybrid and XL models. Plus or minus a little of course, but still will be a very difficult model to acquire.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

35% Hybrid and only 40% CP360 seems like a heck of a bottleneck.

Yeah, this is a little terrifying as a rolled over hybrid/CP-360 order...

 

[Darnon]

And folks were telling me 4k Tow was never a constrained option... I didn't argue because I didn't know for sure, well here it is lol.. 20% ouch.

It kind of depends on what the actual take rate is out of all EcoBoosts. So they anticipate 8% Tremor production which aren't 4k compatible so that takes it down to 57%. 20% of that remainder means they should be capable of producing at least 35% EcoBoost Mavericks with 4k; even more when you consider FWD EcoBoosts that also are incompatible.

 

[reciprocating_ravioli]

The probability of getting an XL Hybrid built in 2023 will likely be even lower. Only 35% of all builds can be hybrid, AND only 15% of all builds can be XL, that sums to only 5.25% chance of all builds will be BOTH Hybrid and XL models. Plus or minus a little of course, but still will be a very difficult model to acquire.

Yeah - that's crazy. It's basically the only thing I wanted to order. XL Hybrid, CP360 + Trailer Hitch.

If the 23 XL does in fact come with cruise control - there is zero desire for me to go to the XLT. I'll really have to decide if I want to bump up to the XLT, or go Ecoboost - or just find a different vehicle all together.

 

[DavesMav]

It kind of depends on what the actual take rate is out of all EcoBoosts. So they anticipate 8% Tremor production which aren't 4k compatible so that takes it down to 57%. 20% of that remainder means they should be capable of producing at least 35% EcoBoost Mavericks with 4k; even more when you consider FWD EcoBoosts that also are incompatible.

Excellent points, that paints a little better picture.

 

[Darnon]

The probability of getting an XL Hybrid built in 2023 will likely be even lower. Only 35% of all builds can be hybrid, AND only 15% of all builds can be XL, that sums to only 5.25% of all builds being BOTH Hybrid and XL models. Plus or minus a little of course, but still will be a very difficult model to acquire.

I think some of those percentages are colored by how many of those trims they expect people to be ordering not necessarily a limit on what they can produce. For instance if you look at user reported ordering stats here on MTC those trim splits roughly correlate to what people actually ordered. 12.7% were XLs so 15% is in about that ballpark. That's not surprising; the bottom tier trim of trucks is typically little more than 10%.

 

[LSchicago]

And folks were telling me 4k Tow was never a constrained option... I didn't argue because I didn't know for sure, well here it is lol.. 20% ouch.

Sounds about right for last years take rate.

 

[jsus]

I think some of those percentages are colored by how many of those trims they expect people to be ordering not necessarily a limit on what they can produce. For instance if you look at user reported ordering stats here on MTC those trim splits roughly correlate to what people actually ordered. 12.7% were XLs so 15% is in about that ballpark. That's not surprising; the bottom tier trim of trucks is typically little more than 10%.

Exactly.

In general, they'll try to get production to match demand as much as possible.

In the case of hybrids, those have been a constraint for a while so unfortunately it doesn't look like that's going to get any better, with nearly twice the supply of EB over Hybrid.

 

[bbeverag]

Will breaking out the Copilot assist package remove the dependency on Copilot 360 from lariat lux? I wasn't really interested in the copilot 360 features so it would be nice to save $650 and remove the constraint.

 

[Darnon]

Also the percentages for the Lariat Luxury Package are interesting. If 26% of production is expected to be Lariats and 25% of production is expected to be Lariat Luxury (so 96%) then you may have better odds getting that than an XLT Luxury. However Ford is anticipating only being able to equip 80% of those Lariat Luxes with CoPilot Assist if ordered.

 

[DavesMav]

So what Im hearing is I get my 23 rollover XLT FX4K transformed into a XLT Tremor. And I get to add bedrails without all the luxury crap. Sounds delicious to me.

Only other options we want is is the 400 watt inverter and a spray in bedliner(which we can do ourselves).

Is there a price increase amount that would have you looking at a Ranger Tremor instead? Just curious as I'm wanting to order a Lariat Tremor Maverick but that will be very much determined by how much the starting price increases and if I can actually get the dang thing. If it comes out to $39,000 and only an 8% chance of being built in the next year, I might have to take a good look at the Ranger.

Building a 2023 Lariat Ranger with Tremor and Tow packs comes in right at $46,000. Granger will order one today for 3% below invoice and thinks it will be 4-6 months. Also, the Ranger can actually be built and has a heck of lot more capability out of the box than the Maverick. I really love the idea of the Maverick Tremor, but I'm definitely taking a closer look at the Ranger than I ever intended.

 

[cavemold]

Is there a price increase amount that would have you looking at a Ranger Tremor instead? Just curious as I'm wanting to order a Lariat Tremor Maverick but that will be very much determined by how much the starting price increases and if I can actually get the dang thing. If it comes out to $39,000 and only an 8% chance of being built in the next year, I might have to take a good look at the Ranger.

Building a 2023 Lariat Ranger with Tremor and Tow packs comes in right at $46,000. Granger will order one today for 3% below invoice and thinks it will be 4-6 months. Also, the Ranger can actually be built and has a heck of lot more capability out of the box than the Maverick. I really love the idea of the Maverick Tremor, but I'm definitely taking a closer look at the Ranger than I ever intended.

The ranger is good plan B at the higher cost of course it’s the last model year of this generation the new gen 2024 to keep that in mind

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