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  1. Official: 2023 to 2024 Maverick Order Conversion + Price Increase Offset Incentive + Order Bank Opens July 17

    I don't know what I want to do. I bought a different vehicle knowing the XL Hybrid I ordered probably wasn't going to be built. But I've kept the order. Do I not bother with the transition, or do I attempt to order a 24 and flip it?
  2. Couldn't pull the trigger

    The recommendation, and in some cases law, is booster until 8 years of age or 4'9". The purpose of a booster seat is to position a child so the seat belt may lay in the correct spots.
  3. No Maverick Scheduling This Week (3/9/23) + Key Constraints

    Oh nice! We have a 20 Ascent as well. We have been fairly loyal to Subaru. The Crosstrek was a future thinking purchase. Seeing how hard it's been to find a decent used car, we'll keep it around and give it the kids when they are of driving age.
  4. No Maverick Scheduling This Week (3/9/23) + Key Constraints

    That's where I am at. I would have loved to get a Maverick, but I really needed something by March. And with the order not even scheduled, I know the writing is on the wall. We've been a one car family for nearly a year, so I've moved on. Decided to go with a new Subaru Crosstrek. Asked the...
  5. 📬 1/19/23 Scheduling Email Received Group [EMAILS NOW ARRIVING!]

    That sucks. Hopefully you get it scheduled next week. It has to be unbelievably infuriating to see new orders already delivered while you are still waiting. If I can't find something cheapish to drive for a few years, we are going to go with a Subaru Crosstrek. Good ground clearance, awd...
  6. 📬 1/19/23 Scheduling Email Received Group [EMAILS NOW ARRIVING!]

    Nope. I'll hopefully find something to buy next month. Either something in the 15K range like a Lexus GX470, or something new like a Corolla Cross or just go with another Subaru.
  7. 📬 1/19/23 Scheduling Email Received Group [EMAILS NOW ARRIVING!]

    This will probably be my last Thursday. If I don't get scheduled, I'll need to find something else to buy. I knew it was a long shot to get a hybrid built, let alone delivered in Feb/March - but at this point I won't be able to wait until April and beyond. We've been a 1 vehicle family for...
  8. Bait and switch

    You say negative attitude, I say realistic. They have absolutely screwed up every new roll-out. That is a fact. As I said in another post - I don't really believe they intentialy mislead customers. I think they are just wildly incompetent. I ordered a Hybrid knowing there was probably a...
  9. Bait and switch

    By Ford's own posted numbers they have around 35% capacity for hybrid builds. Ford was both aware of their production limitations and allowed far more hybrid orders than they knew they could produce. But by all means, keep boot licking Ford, maybe the boss will invite you for a pony ride.
  10. Bait and switch

    You are severely biasing your assumption to limited interactions on this forum.
  11. Bait and switch

    It is def a grey area. I think you'd have to clearly establish an intent by Ford to deceive customers. Ford just being incompetent isn't the same - though it certainly feels that way at times. It's just this idea that Ford allowed way more hybrid orders than they can make, then is offering a...
  12. Bait and switch

    "A fraudulent advertising claim or sales offer for a product or service that is not available or not for sale at the stated price, made with the intention of luring customers who are then offered something else or forced to spend more money to get the same thing. " Ford offered a certain...
  13. On the fence about switching to EcoBoost from Hybrid?

    Depending on driving habits, area, and how much you drive - there might not be much difference between the two in terms of fuel cost. With that being said: IMO a FWD EB is the worst spec of Maverick and will have the lowest resale value. I pretty much look at it as needing to pay an additional...
  14. Are you switching your order from Hybrid to Ecoboost? [Now allowed by Ford!]

    I have to wonder: If your dealer has more orders than allocations (and likely more hybrids than EB) if it would really matter switching to EB. There are plenty of folks that started with EB, no constraints and had to wait over a year. I also wonder, if Ford did offer an actual good...
  15. 📝 (12/14/22) – 2023 MAVERICK AVAILABILITY MEMO Allows Order Switch From Hybrid to EcoBoost! + New Discount Package + Current Constraints Info

    Correct: I just copied the first number I saw which was reported as 27kW, 1.1kWh. Ford has, in the past, had an agreement with Toyota. It's unclear if some of the tech Ford uses is still part of said agreement. https://global.toyota/en/detail/1049108 This article states that Toyota has...
  16. 📝 (12/14/22) – 2023 MAVERICK AVAILABILITY MEMO Allows Order Switch From Hybrid to EcoBoost! + New Discount Package + Current Constraints Info

    In years past (2004) it was reported that Ford had licensed 20 patents from Toyota to create their hybrids. Perhaps that's no longer the case, or required. Regardless - the overall point is that I have no doubt a hybrid Maverick costs more to make than the EB version. Just on the 27 kW battery...
  17. 📝 (12/14/22) – 2023 MAVERICK AVAILABILITY MEMO Allows Order Switch From Hybrid to EcoBoost! + New Discount Package + Current Constraints Info

    Why wouldn't that be the case? They have to license the tech from Toyota, and batteries have gotten more expensive. Go look up how much a replacement prius battery pack is. I'd bet it likely costs Ford an additional 2+ grand to build the hybrid over the Ecoboost.
  18. 📝 (12/14/22) – 2023 MAVERICK AVAILABILITY MEMO Allows Order Switch From Hybrid to EcoBoost! + New Discount Package + Current Constraints Info

    It isn't reasonable, it's a bait and switch. Hybrid is standard. Ford knows how many they can produce. They allowed that vast majority of orders to be Hybrid. The EB, at the same price, is far more profitable to build. So now Ford says "Oh we actually can't build the vehicle you ordered from...


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