March Maverick Production - 5,400 Units

[Dun4791]

There is the hocus pocus voodoo black magic blind luck factor in all of this, dealer allocations. To assume my 22 reordered as a 23 will be in the "front of the line" is a gamble at best. And, for the wait, I am not compromising on what I want. CoPilot 360 I can do without as well as the SIBL, but I'm stuck with both as I want everything else in the Lux package.

Agreed. Thinking because you have a 22 on order that you will be first in line for a 23 if the 22 isn’t built is laughable.
Must consider the “market basket allocation formula”

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[Johnkn]

The way I look at it is I'd rather be in line right now than to order a 23 and be to the back of the line at that time. I would get my vehicle a lot sooner if I keep my 22 order that gets moved to 23 then to cancel it and then wait for all the orders to be made which may never happen if it continues like the Bronco did and getting more orders for 23 than you're gonna be way behind the ball game when it comes to having your vehicle built in 2023 model year.

Also the brand manager told me that if there were no constraints they could build all of the current 22 model year orders by the end of 2022 production. But the reason orders will get pushed to 23 is because of the orders that have the Luxury package and the co pilot 360 package and other bed accessories.

If our current ‘22 order is converted to a ‘23 order, can changes be made (ie: change to hybrid from EB) without going to the back of the ‘23 ordering line? Thanks


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[lonemustangman]

I agree based on the declining #s built, not hard to see that there is no way in hell Ford will get all of their 22 orders built. I'm trying to decide if I want to wait for over a year for a Maverick.

I'd wait because no matter what if you want other model or make you'll have the order them too and now your at the back of the line. I ordered 10/4/21 and I have heard nothing. I'm in it for the long haul.

 

[Ingland]

I think the number being thrown around is 80-100,000 RESERVATIONS not orders. Because people reserved but didn't convert to an order. We have 900 reservations but 500 orders.

Thanks, Tim and pa_outdoorsman! Tim, when priority codes are pretty deep (like 19) for a hybrid FE, should I start buying a big giant bow for the hood for Christmas '22?

 

[Ryan_Dalion]

More encouraging is that the builds are scheduled to be 50/50 hybrid/ecoboost, rather than 40/60.

Expect that as the number of unscheduled ecoboosts diminish further that ratio will skew even more heavily to hybrids.

I'm a June 16 order with the exact same build. Still no build date or anything from Ford. Don't expect it anytime soon

 

[Michaelkov]

Wow! At this rate I'm going to have to revise down my MY 2022 Maverick sales estimate of 75,000, split 30,000 Hybrid and 45,000 EB. May not hit that, unless Ford extends MY 2022 production again beyond the current early October, 2022 timeframe. This truck is going to turn into a boutique vehicle (i.e. low volume) soon at these low production rates, much like the Hyundai Santa Cruz already is.

This confirms even more why I'm predicting that the EB 1.5L 3 cyl becomes a third engine choice for MY 2023, while keeping the existing Hybrid and EB 2.0L 4 cyl engines. In researching, I find the vast majority of Bronco Sports and Escapes sold today use the 3 cyl engine, so I know it will sell. I know it's a bit of a raspy, and at low rpms, vibration-prone engine. But it's there and would be an easy swap for a base FWD Maverick. Of course, keep the Hybrid, but add this one as an alternative base engine. I know a lot of folks have chimed in that a 3 cyl Maverick would be underpowered, but if you look at the specs, the 3 cyl is very comparable to the Hybrid in power and torque. It has significantly less gas mileage, but still better than the EB 2.0L 4 cyl. Heck, I could see the EB 2.0L switching to only being offered in AWD, much like it is today with the Escape and Bronco Sport and offer the Hybrid and the 3 cyl for FWD only. This would make the difference in MPG between the EB 3 cyl and EB 4 cyl even more evident. It assumes the Ford Chihuahua Engine Plant could produce enough of those 3 cyl engines for all three models, but only Ford knows that. They could possibly import extra engines from the Ford Romania plant that also makes that engine. After all, many of the EB 2.0L 4 cyl engines come from Europe already from the Valencia, Spain plant, supplementing the Cleveland, Ohio plant as a source.

It's all speculation on my part, but we are living in strange times, times I have not seen since the late '70s. Crazy high gas prices and high vehicle prices in many cases. (Inflation was crazy then, too.) I still think the F-150 gas models are going to take a hit in sales from here on out, given $4-5 per gallon gas, and hope Ford can ramp up the F-150 Lightning production quickly. I know lots of folks think this prediction of a 3 cyl Maverick is crazy and will never happen, but we'll see. Stranger things have happened.

In the meantime, I will continue to wait for the scheduling of my June-ordered XL Hybrid, and if need be, roll it to MY 2023. Gas prices are likely to be elevated for a long time.

 

[scotwhoo]

I'm not sure how much they will go into September, I was using through August as a safe bet. I know that they will start producing in October, so more than likely they will have 22MY production in September and possibly all the way through September.

Thanks for responding to my question about continued scheduling on your video last night. First time I caught it live. I know you don't have a crystal ball, but are you fairly confident that those who actually placed an order (not reservation) in June and July for hybrid mavericks will actually be scheduled this year (assuming they removed the part constraints)? Recall you saying something on your video last night that Ford will be trying to get the June and July vehicles scheduled that have removed the part constraints (i.e., bedcovers, bedliners, etd.) Just seems like my dealer isn't getting the allocations and wondering how much that is factoring in?

 

[Bad Actor]

They plan to schedule those at 50%

Thank you. I thought the constraint list that came out was for the rest of the year and not month to month. This clears it up for me.

 

[Shay]

......However, if you assume at least 100,000 orders on the books, and only 50,000 units being produced for a year, then 18 months is a very reasonable time frame.

No. We must remind again. That 100,000 number was not orders, it was reservations. Way different than orders. It's estimated that only about 30% of those reservations were converted to orders. That's been well discussed and documented here on the forums and in the press.

 

[Mymaverick2021]

One interesting tidbit from last night's YouTube live stream with @fordvideoguy was the number of Mavericks Ford intends to produce this month. Tim said it is 5,400 units, which is down from February and also down from a previously stated goal of 6,000.

As Tim noted in the video, if you assume roughly the same production level for the six months remaining in MY22, Ford will produce another 30,000-32,000 Mavericks before switching over to MY23 production.

Bottom line for guys like me who ordered in January: not optimistic about receiving a truck this year. Granted, none of us know exactly how many orders Ford has, but I have to believe the number was FAR in excess of 45,000-50,000, which looks like the total number of MY22 Mavericks Ford will produce.

Well my hybrid XLT is in production as we speak Number 30 of 1760 Hopefully we'll Ship by the end of the week

 

[Guymon72]

The way I look at it is I'd rather be in line right now than to order a 23 and be to the back of the line at that time. I would get my vehicle a lot sooner if I keep my 22 order that gets moved to 23 then to cancel it and then wait for all the orders to be made which may never happen if it continues like the Bronco did and getting more orders for 23 than you're gonna be way behind the ball game when it comes to having your vehicle built in 2023 model year.

Also the brand manager told me that if there were no constraints they could build all of the current 22 model year orders by the end of 2022 production. But the reason orders will get pushed to 23 is because of the orders that have the Luxury package and the co pilot 360 package and other bed accessories.

so if someone ordered in Dec a Lariat with just 4k tow, there's a good shot of it being built my22?

 

[Old Ranchero]

Anybody know for certain the actual total number of Mavericks produced and shipped from the factory?

 

[pa-outdoorsman]

Anybody know for certain the actual total number of Mavericks produced and shipped from the factory?

Easy to figure it out. There are other threads on this forum with Ford's official sales figures from the last several months. I really don't think Ford started delivering any Mavericks in volume until December. If memory serves, it's about 10,000 delivered through the end of February.

 

[scottrrr]

Wow! At this rate I'm going to have to revise down my MY 2022 Maverick sales estimate of 75,000, split 30,000 Hybrid and 45,000 EB. May not hit that, unless Ford extends MY 2022 production again beyond the current early October, 2022 timeframe. This truck is going to turn into a boutique vehicle (i.e. low volume) soon at these low production rates, much like the Hyundai Santa Cruz already is.

This confirms even more why I'm predicting that the EB 1.5L 3 cyl becomes a third engine choice for MY 2023, while keeping the existing Hybrid and EB 2.0L 4 cyl engines. In researching, I find the vast majority of Bronco Sports and Escapes sold today use the 3 cyl engine, so I know it will sell. I know it's a bit of a raspy, and at low rpms, vibration-prone engine. But it's there and would be an easy swap for a base FWD Maverick. Of course, keep the Hybrid, but add this one as an alternative base engine. I know a lot of folks have chimed in that a 3 cyl Maverick would be underpowered, but if you look at the specs, the 3 cyl is very comparable to the Hybrid in power and torque. It has significantly less gas mileage, but still better than the EB 2.0L 4 cyl. Heck, I could see the EB 2.0L switching to only being offered in AWD, much like it is today with the Escape and Bronco Sport and offer the Hybrid and the 3 cyl for FWD only. This would make the difference in MPG between the EB 3 cyl and EB 4 cyl even more evident. It assumes the Ford Chihuahua Engine Plant could produce enough of those 3 cyl engines for all three models, but only Ford knows that. They could possibly import extra engines from the Ford Romania plant that also makes that engine. After all, many of the EB 2.0L 4 cyl engines come from Europe already from the Valencia, Spain plant, supplementing the Cleveland, Ohio plant as a source.

It's all speculation on my part, but we are living in strange times, times I have not seen since the late '70s. Crazy high gas prices and high vehicle prices in many cases. (Inflation was crazy then, too.) I still think the F-150 gas models are going to take a hit in sales from here on out, given $4-5 per gallon gas, and hope Ford can ramp up the F-150 Lightning production quickly. I know lots of folks think this prediction of a 3 cyl Maverick is crazy and will never happen, but we'll see. Stranger things have happened.

In the meantime, I will continue to wait for the scheduling of my June-ordered XL Hybrid, and if need be, roll it to MY 2023. Gas prices are likely to be elevated for a long time.

I like your thinking, except it would be better to have an AWD 3 cyl option, since that is widely used in Escape/Bronco, works great, and would be an efficient alternative to ppl in snowy regions!

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