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sems like it's slower to accelerate and I notice a difference in a/c cooling - doesn't blast out as cold (yeah I like it cold) as when in normal mode. Also when I try to 'gun it' it doesn't feel as quick as in default.
I think I just found the new wife mode for long trips....when she complains its too blasting cold.....
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What most here have already posted. It makes the regenerative braking a bit more aggressive and acceleration pedal response a bit "softer/slower". Effectively, it regens the hybrid battery a bit more/sooner and gives you a larger window to use that up before turning the ICE back on.

What I've found is that after using ECO for about 1.5 - 2 years I can get the same gas mileage in STANDARD drive mode because I'm just much much better at watching the 10-12% power windows I'm allowed to exist in that keeps the ICE turned off.

Hope that makes sense.
 

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No, not on startup. And the XL definitely has a different gauge presentation with well delineated marks at 10, 20, 30 etc. percent. But no blue bar.
You did see my power meter right?
On my already stated 24XLT.
Yours is different than that?
Picture please.

And that blue bar is the EV Coach option for MyView.

I tried last night on flat road with 60% HVB SOC - no difference in going above 10% in Normal or Eco mode.
Don't let your truck get any software updates - you got something special going on.
 

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I don't think you need to be an expert. That's left to the engineers.
The engineers designed it as a driving mode. The same as towing and Sport.
I don't believe they would have done that if there would be a negative/detrimental impact.
The engineers also designed the charging system for 12v, the faulty CV axles, and the parasitic draw from the electronic parts that were used.
 

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No. I get better MPG in Normal.
Yeah I can't make it do as good in Eco as normal, I can do as bad in Eco as Normal too. Only use I got for it is under cruise, because that little computer guy in there got a lead foot.
 

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The engineers also designed the charging system for 12v, the faulty CV axles, and the parasitic draw from the electronic parts that were used.
That's right. And then the accountants and project managers find the cheapest vendor / supplier for the parts.
Component-Level Trade-offs: Engineers and finance teams (or cost engineers) collaborate to weigh the costs of materials (e.g., aluminum vs. steel) against weight, safety, and durability. If an expensive upgrade (like a more complex suspension) doesn't translate to a direct boost in sales or meet the manufacturer's target margin, it is usually dropped.
In the automobile industry, the Purchasing or Procurement Department is directly in charge of selecting vendors for parts. While purchasing makes the final vendor agreements, they work closely with Engineering, Quality Assurance, and Supply Chain teams to evaluate and select the best suppliers.
Procurement / Sourcing Managers: Lead the commercial negotiations, pricing, and contracting. They issue Requests for Quotations and compare bids. Then selects the lowest bid.


You don't think that there are compromises between engineering and procuring?
One only has to think back to the Ford pinto engineering had a fix for exploding gas tanks. Internal company documents revealed Ford knew about the defect through pre-production crash tests but chose to proceed with production anyway. A notorious internal cost-benefit analysis (often cited in business ethics courses) suggested it was cheaper to pay out potential wrongful-death lawsuits than to spend a few dollars per car on a safer design or protective bladder
 
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2X for Normal Mode!
I spent my first 8 months of ownership without ever trying Normal mode, now I use Normal mode exclusively!
I have several reasons for this. The truck feels and drives better (more normal and relaxed, IMO)
The regen in Normal mode is perfect, it allows me to more easily judge coast down to a stop, and if I overshoot - there's always the parachute button (Low).
I have noticed an improvement in MPG's in Normal mode (YMMV), but I can't be sure why that is.
I can hypermile in Normal mode without working at it. Give it a shot!
Yup, in Normal mode, you just feather the brake rather than the throttle to slow down. You can pulse and glide with less effort and trickle charge right under 0 power pretty easy.

Eco in heavy traffic, going down a mountain, mountain curvy roads and ECO with cruise control. Too much throttle input required in Eco for normal open road driving, IMO. Either that or move the seat up and work the throttle 'till your heart's content.
 

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That's right. And then the accountants and project managers find the cheapest vendor / supplier for the parts.
Component-Level Trade-offs: Engineers and finance teams (or cost engineers) collaborate to weigh the costs of materials (e.g., aluminum vs. steel) against weight, safety, and durability. If an expensive upgrade (like a more complex suspension) doesn't translate to a direct boost in sales or meet the manufacturer's target margin, it is usually dropped.
In the automobile industry, the Purchasing or Procurement Department is directly in charge of selecting vendors for parts. While purchasing makes the final vendor agreements, they work closely with Engineering, Quality Assurance, and Supply Chain teams to evaluate and select the best suppliers.
Procurement / Sourcing Managers: Lead the commercial negotiations, pricing, and contracting. They issue Requests for Quotations and compare bids. Then selects the lowest bid.


You don't think that there are compromises between engineering and procuring?
One only has to think back to the Ford pinto engineering had a fix for exploding gas tanks. Internal company documents revealed Ford knew about the defect through pre-production crash tests but chose to proceed with production anyway. A notorious internal cost-benefit analysis (often cited in business ethics courses) suggested it was cheaper to pay out potential wrongful-death lawsuits than to spend a few dollars per car on a safer design or protective bladder
That is a scary thought, you are right they knew the pinto issues.
I still don't trust Ford entirely. Or any manufacturer, the whole lifetime fluid or 150,000 mi change for transmission fluid seems crazy. I know that there are people that swear that changing the auto trans fluid on the hybrid prolongs it's life. In all of these automakers engineering the transmission without a dipstick seems crazy too.
 

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That is a scary thought, you are right they knew the pinto issues.
I still don't trust Ford entirely. Or any manufacturer, the whole lifetime fluid or 150,000 mi change for transmission fluid seems crazy. I know that there are people that swear that changing the auto trans fluid on the hybrid prolongs it's life. In all of these automakers engineering the transmission without a dipstick seems crazy too.
The Hybrid Transmission fluid is only good for 50,000km (35,000miles) as per the severe service interval provided by my dealership.
 

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Does anyone else drive in Econ mode the majority of the time to increase gas mileage?

I can't find any information that states this would harm the vehicle. The performance declines slightly, but I can deal with this if it means better gas mileage and no long-term impact.
I do. I like the aggressive regen braking. Almost one pedal driving allowing me to only have to use the brake pedal for complete or emergency stops. I have to be careful not to select SLIPPERY mode afterwards since it seems like the brakes then went out compared to ECO mode.
 
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That is a scary thought, you are right they knew the pinto issues.
I still don't trust Ford entirely. Or any manufacturer, the whole lifetime fluid or 150,000 mi change for transmission fluid seems crazy. I know that there are people that swear that changing the auto trans fluid on the hybrid prolongs it's life. In all of these automakers engineering the transmission without a dipstick seems crazy too.
I agree. I don't trust the 150,000 Mi transmission fluid change recommendation.
Now you're into the marketing department. You don't want to Market a car, that's going to need more maintenance than GM or or Toyota..
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