This will be the last Ford I buy

[skadizzle]

But see, that's the problem with people. Fit, finish & better materials cost money. If Toyota "cloned" the Maverick, improved in those 3 areas, would you pay $10K more?

Probably not.

HRG

I wouldn't pay $10k, but probably $5k more. Ford's problem is they've increased their price 30% but haven't improved anything over that time, just raised the prices and in some cases removed items

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[MavStangVa]

"My initial plan was that this truck would hold its value and I could trade it in after 2-3 years and move up to an F150 which is what I always wanted. "
This statement is why you weren't happy with it. Buying something hoping to "hold" value until you can trade for what you really want is a bad financial model. I've had a 71 F100, 73 Chevy 3/4 ton, 92 Ranger (bought new), 2014 F150, 2023 Silverado, and a 2024 Maverick. Each truck had different issues, some major, some minor but ALL of them were what I wanted to buy at the time.

 

[Wahjahbvious]

A couple of months ago, they straight up said that they have no plans to enter that market anytime soon. I forget the exact quote, but it was something about the segment being too small.

And, if I were guessing, I'd say that they think a smaller model will just end up siphoning off buyers who would otherwise buy a more expensive (and more profitable) Tacoma.

Yeah there have been rumors forever that Toyota would do one, but so far they haven't. If they ever build one and not for a ridiculous price like the Tacoma I'll be a day-one buyer

 

[skadizzle]

"My initial plan was that this truck would hold its value and I could trade it in after 2-3 years and move up to an F150 which is what I always wanted. "
This statement is why you weren't happy with it. Buying something hoping to "hold" value until you can trade for what you really want is a bad financial model. I've had a 71 F100, 73 Chevy 3/4 ton, 92 Ranger (bought new), 2014 F150, 2023 Silverado, and a 2024 Maverick. Each truck had different issues, some major, some minor but ALL of them were what I wanted to buy at the time.

2-3 years was probably unrealistic. I usually keep my vehicles for 5-6 years and one I had for 10. What I meant was I hoping to keep it and upgrade eventually to another Ford.

 

[bgn]

A couple of months ago, they straight up said that they have no plans to enter that market anytime soon. I forget the exact quote, but it was something about the segment being too small.

And, if I were guessing, I'd say that they think a smaller model will just end up siphoning off buyers who would otherwise buy a more expensive (and more profitable) Tacoma.

Yep. They almost never want to compete on price. And then they saw Ford outsell the more expensive Hyundai 6:1 and called it a day.

 

[Tiger Dude]

This will be a long post so feel free to skim through or skip.

I wanted to love the Maverick as Ford finally came out with a hybrid truck and it seemed too good to be true. It is. I was one of ones interested at the beginning and placed my order in September 2021. I joined this forum in November 2021 and was pretty active on here anxiously waiting for my truck. I was also a long-time viewer of Tim's weekly YT show.

I was finally given a VIN number and build date for October 2022 and ended up being one of the vehicles whose VIN was canceled and had to re-order a 2023. I eventually got my truck in March 2023, 18 months after I ordered. When I sat in it for the first time, the backseat wasn't as roomy as everyone said, but it looked good and I already waited long enough for it so I ended up buying it. I did get a great deal on it as I had the rollover rebate and X-Plan so I ended up paying about $32k for a truck with a $38k sticker price and a mark-up value of around $45k at the time.

My initial plan was that this truck would hold its value and I could trade it in after 2-3 years and move up to an F150 which is what I always wanted. Well, I was disappointed pretty early on and tried to trade it in after only 3-4 monhts and,at least in Florida they certainly do not hold their value. I was offered $29k for the truck. I decided to hold onto it and try enjoy it. I did ceramic tint all around, added a ceramic coat to it since everyone was doing it (that was a waste of money), added PFF on the hood and front, did a spray-in bed liner, and added some accessories to it to make it my own. The truck looks badass, I will give it that, especially when done right. However, it has had nothing but problems for me.

*Here are the problems if you want to skip*

• FIrst of all, I have never gotten the magical 50 mpg that a lot of hybrid owners claim. I usually only average about 35-37 mpg which is great, but not what I was expecting. Still for a truck, I can't complain too much. The rest of the problems though are inexcusable.
• The interior scratches if you just look at it wrong. I have two dogs and after just 3 months the interior looked worse than my Rav4 I traded in after 5 years.
• There is something wrong with the windshield design/material as it is not strong at all. I have replaced my windshield twice in the first year from rocks and I currently have a crack that I've just been living with for the last year as I don't feel like paying or taking another insurance ding.
• My windshield wiper tank was cracked or something as it was emptying out within a week of filling it up and the dealer couldn't find the problem, just ended up replacing it.
• My CV axles ended up needing replaced after only 30k miles. Luckily this was under the warranty, but they had my truck for a month waiting on parts.
• I had water getting into my cabin behind the center console and was getting my floorboards wet and moldy. I believe they said it was something with the evaporator and they replaced my entire carpet and whatever else they did. This was also under the warranty.
• The water is coming back into the cabin, but is out of warranty and they want an additional charge to diagnose again.
• The ambient air sensor broke and caused the HVAC system to stop working. Had to get that replaced, not under warranty $700
• The Bluetooth randomly decides to not recognize my phone and I have to restart the truck or remember the reset sequence for the info screen, which is annoying as it happened frequently.
• The truck will sometimes go into Deep Sleep mode and the headlights will start strobing for no reason.
• The latest issue is I am now getting a System Shift Fault when I start the truck and it won't let me out of Park. I have to turn the truck off and restart it after a few seconds.
• In the Ford app, I can't do see anything because it says the truck is in Battery Saver Mode. I did it previously, but it went away after I took it in for the air sensor issue. It's back now, probably because of the System Shift issue.

This truck has just had so many issues and many of them like the Bluetooth and Deep Sleep don't really seem to have a solution. The dealer said they can't do anything if they can't duplicate it and/or it doesn't trigger an error code and since it happens randomly, I'm shit out of luck. I wish I could get rid of it as a lemon, but in Florida, it has to be the same issue four times and since it has just been a bunch of different ones, nothing can be done.

This was my first Ford vehicle and while I was hoping to stay in the Ford family and move up to a bigger vehicle, between the problems I have had with this truck and with my dealer, I want nothing more to do with them. Because the resale value is shit, I have to hold onto the truck for another year or so to at least have enough trade-in value to get something else. I will be going back to Honda or Toyota where I have never had a problem outside of a Civic that needed a new header after 200k miles on it.

/tldr This truck is a POS and I regret ever buying it, but am stuck with it

you can only get 90% of your purchase price after 3 years and you're mad?

I guess you'll just live your life mad because I'm guessing your next vehicle will be about 60% after 3 years.

 

[Hot Runr Guy]

I wouldn't pay $10k, but probably $5k more. Ford's problem is they've increased their price 30% but haven't improved anything over that time, just raised the prices and in some cases removed items

Fords problem is they released the MY22 Maverick Hybrid at $19,995 (+ shipping), not having any idea if the market would accept such a vehicle. It SHOULD have launched closer to $25-26K, much closer the the real value number of the vehicle. The fact that people were paying $5-10K dealer mark-ups shows you what the true worth should have been.

From what I see, you can B&P a Rav4 Hybrid AWD at $35K, why haven't you bought that instead? Only $2700 more than a similar Maverick, well within your cost window.

HRG

 

[Ryom]

If they ever build one and not for a ridiculous price like the Tacoma I'll be a day-one buyer

I have a co-worker that just got a new Tacoma. Between his anemic down payment, high interest rate long-term loan, and apparent lack of haggling, I estimate he'll pay about $65,000 for it all said and done. I got a chance to climb in the back seat and it was WAY tighter than the Maverick is. The truck looks nice though

 

[Darryl]

Yeah, the dealer has been reluctant to do anything because it hasn't appeared as a recall, not sure why. Carvana previously gave me the best price, but I haven't checked in awhile. Carmax lowballed me when I last did it.

There has been a fix from FORD for nearly a year for the battery drain issue that works for most . It has been updated and should work for the rest. It's an SSM (special service message) . All they have to do is look it up. It involves 2 software updates. The Bluetooth issue is likely an update as well. As for the lemon law in Florida, it has TWO triggers of things that happen within the first TWO years of ownership. 1. Three failed repair attempts of the SAME concern.
2. A cumulative total of more than 30 days in the shop for any number of concerns. They don't have to be the same concern. Once the process of the lemon law begins, they have Ten days to use as a FINAL repair attempt.
There are other details. But that's the gist of it.

 

[skadizzle]

you can only get 90% of your purchase price after 3 years and you're mad?

I guess you'll just live your life mad because I'm guessing your next vehicle will be about 60% after 3 years.

$21k on a $37k truck isn't 90%, its 57%

 

[skadizzle]

There has been a fix from FORD for nearly a year for the battery drain issue that works for most . It has been updated and should work for the rest. It's an SSM (special service message) . All they have to do is look it up. It involves 2 software updates. The Bluetooth issue is likely an update as well. As for the lemon law in Florida, it has TWO triggers of things that happen within the first TWO years of ownership. 1. Three failed repair attempts of the SAME concern.
2. A cumulative total of more than 30 days in the shop for any number of concerns. They don't have to be the same concern. Once the process of the lemon law begins, they have Ten days to use as a FINAL repair attempt.
There are other details. But that's the gist of it.

My truck has already been in the shop more than 30 days. I wonder if I can get it then

 

[Solaryellow]

All it takes are a number of issues for someone to sour on a product. It doesn't matter if the problems are owner induced, manufacturer issue, etc...., the end result is usually the same.

I could have written a similar lament about Ford, as the op did, but way back in 1999 with a '96 SHO I bought. AAMOF, I did pen comments of condemnation back then and I blacklisted Ford until I bought this truck even though I knew it was that specific model. My shortsightedness of 20+ years caused me to miss out a number of Ford products I would have enjoyed driving.

 

[surfstar]

Who else clicked assuming OP was old and loved his Mav?

 

[Busa789]

Who else clicked assuming OP was old and loved his Mav?

LOL, honestly, I considered that as a possibility before I opened it. I think the average age here is in the 60's, and almost all dudes.

 

[26mavxlt]

I just sold my 2022 Tacoma over $50,000 truck that got 19 mpg had tight rear seats and 2 recalls I got $37,000selling myself dealer offers were 34,000 it had 33,000 miles on it and not one scratch. My golfing buds complained the rear seats suck but it was the long bed and could carry more. I would not expect to buy a vehicle and get 80% or more for it after bought. I don`t have dogs with uncut nails scratching my floors or my cars, I don`t live in a barn so animals stay outside. Some cars/trucks have issues when they first come out so im never in a hurry to be first in line to be a guniea pig, you need to sell it and move on to your Toyota. Funny thing is my Dad drove fords as long as I can remember and he bought a tarus and said that was his last ford, so he bought a Saturn and the key got stuck in lock position inside a parking garage boy did that cost him getting that pos out the parking garage when taking his 100 yr old mother to the hospital. Sometimes it just don`t matter who makes it, there can be problems. Sell it

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