Ford EV Truck & Low-Price Platform -- New Specs & Details

[pigsareus]

Seems like the revolutionary manufacturing is just taking a page (or a few of them) from Tesla's playbook. Less fasteners, gigacasting, aero, etc. You know, the stuff people have panned them for building cheap vehicles that are rattleboxes.

I'm still highly skeptical you'll get much for $31,600.

I got far more than I ever thought that I would when I got my pure base '22 XL for under 22K out the door, this new truck could be the same - but jump on year 1 because we all know that's the intro 1st year price and it's never going to be that low again

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[pigsareus]

Pure conjecture on my part, but informed by usual industry practices. I don't expect the new Ford to give all those specs at the same time. I suspect that the fast speed and long range comes with the AWD variant with a big battery - for more money. And I'm cool with that.

I'd wager the $30K variant is FWD, with a smaller battery and longer accelleration times. If you do get everything for $30K, then that is the best birthday present any of us ever got.

coincidentally --- back in '22 I put in my XL order for my birthday! that was the best bday present I ever got (though it didn't show up until the following October)

 

[zen_]

Whats Ford doing to strengthen the nations electric grid ? We cannot charge all these cars.

EVs will help make the grid more resilient as distributed energy storage. One of the few benefits of the AI datacenter bubble that's not a bubble is that utilities and companies with printing press money are actually upgrading the grid, and fast tracking nuclear power. I would love to have an EV as a short term power backup instead of a noisy, polluting gas generator.

As I enjoy another traditional 75 degree mid-February day in Nebraska.

 

[dalola]

I'd wager the $30K variant is FWD, with a smaller battery and longer accelleration times. If you do get everything for $30K, then that is the best birthday present any of us ever got.

Based on the architecture, the base variant is likely RWD, with the AWD option adding the front motor. I would also expect the specs given to apply to the base model, with better specs for the AWD model, at a higher price point of course. We shall see.... Ford really needs to over-deliver on this one, given all the hype they are creating.

 

[Timothyd]

New specs on the upcoming Ford EV Truck & Low-Cost Platform:

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Well, interesting but, we'll see. I find that being a skeptic has served me we'll. I'm happy with my Maverick and still kinda surprised that the Maverick at its price point happened.
I hope that I'm surprised again later by this newest creation.

 

[Clarkdonbran]

Meh. Given the Maverick’s growing pains I wouldn’t touch something like this until at least 2031. Not really inclined to give Ford more of my money for beta testing for them. Seems like everything about this vehicle is about testing new concepts, and lowering manufacturing costs (not costs for buyers), if you want to be a test mule, enjoy!

I feel the same way. I learned my lesson with the Mav and won’t buy another first model year. Although, my Mav has been totally fine since I had my issues. The recalls are pretty exhausting.

 

[Blue_Max]

Easy, less crap. Fewer computers chips, and things that really drive up the cost like over sized screens, phone charging pads, fancy separate DRLs, electronic parking brakes, oversized wheels and tires.

That will only save money for people who don't want a well-equipped vehicle. Low manufacturing costs are what keep prices reasonable for all customers. Ford's Fox and Panther chassis are prime examples. They lasted a long time with minimal investment by Ford, and that kept those vehicles in a very reasonable price range.

 

[Blue_Max]

That's not the final design, you can see from this areo image the actual truck has a longer hood than that sketch. You can't make out the actual lines of course, but you can see the basic proportions in this aero graphic.

Oh, I know concepts are very far removed from production vehicles. But that's what the image looked like to me (as vaguely defined as it was).

 

[HeyBales]

25% fewer fasteners.

So more pop in & break on pop out type holders?
Or is that still a fastener?

Or bigger chunks of assembled items that screw in as one piece from vendor, instead of multiple pieces all screwed separately?

Thinking anything on outside that can get hit and damaged - there's a replacement cost increase.
Or Structural along the same lines.

Thinking things on the inside - hmm, pop off stuff already.

Thinking mechanical system items. Oh boy.

Really trying to picture that.
Like a 1 piece air intake, filter box, connector with MAF sensor in it - straight to intake manifold?
8 hold down bolts and 4 clamps compared to 4 bolts and 1 clamp?

Oh well - that caught my eye. Whatever makes it easier for assembly probably adds cost to repair/replacement.
Just moves the headache around.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Whats Ford doing to strengthen the nations electric grid ? We cannot charge all these cars.

We all cannot flush the toilet at the same time today. There would be zero water pressure. Yet, somehow, we are all just fine. Even during the Super Bowl people flushed at slightly different times. And not everyone watched the Super Bowl.

EV charging - same concept.

The grid is fine. The grid will continue to be fine. The one for sure thing we know.

An EV is an appliance. A big one, but not different than an Air Conditioner.

Are you wondering how your city is going to power air conditioners?

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Good video.
Well done video.

I noticed no one in the video was over age ~35. I wonder if they were all actors.

I have been saying basically forever we can all have a 500 mile range EV for under 20 grand if we dial down the horsepower.

I also have been saying for years the solution is not bigger batteries. The solution is smaller lighter more efficient vehicles. Because it is.

Dial down the 0 to 60 times.
Keep it on the racetrack. It's pointless for daily work, school, commute, life.

I can drive to work at 70 mph, comfortably with ten horsepower.
You can too.

Zero to sixty in 50 seconds vs. 5 seconds. The vehicle will be under $20k and cost to recharge will be $3 a day or free with solar. You'll get to work 45 seconds later than a Maverick.

Downsize it is the key.
Not slow. 70 or 80 mph is easy.
Not low range. 500 miles is easy
50 seconds zero to 60 saves the planet.
All you need is a paradigm shift.

 

[710-oil-614]

I got far more than I ever thought that I would when I got my pure base '22 XL for under 22K out the door, this new truck could be the same - but jump on year 1 because we all know that's the intro 1st year price and it's never going to be that low again

You got a banger deal if you paid less than 22k for a 2022 xl as nearly nobody else paid that price for one!!

 

[Blue_Max]

Zero to sixty in 50 seconds vs. 5 seconds.

Absolutely not, unless such vehicles are banned from interstate use. That would be insane.

 

[Cherokee]

Good video.
Well done video.

I noticed no one in the video was over age ~35. I wonder if they were all actors.

I have been saying basically forever we can all have a 500 mile range EV for under 20 grand if we dial down the horsepower.

I also have been saying for years the solution is not bigger batteries. The solution is smaller lighter more efficient vehicles. Because it is.

Dial down the 0 to 60 times.
Keep it on the racetrack. It's pointless for daily work, school, commute, life.

I can drive to work at 70 mph, comfortably with ten horsepower.
You can too.

Zero to sixty in 50 seconds vs. 5 seconds. The vehicle will be under $20k and cost to recharge will be $3 a day or free with solar. You'll get to work 45 seconds later than a Maverick.

Downsize it is the key.
Not slow. 70 or 80 mph is easy.
Not low range. 500 miles is easy
50 seconds zero to 60 saves the planet.
All you need is a paradigm shift.

You can drive a fancy electric golf cart if you like. I’m not getting run over.

 

[Cherokee]

We all cannot flush the toilet at the same time today. There would be zero water pressure. Yet, somehow, we are all just fine. Even during the Super Bowl people flushed at slightly different times. And not everyone watched the Super Bowl.

EV charging - same concept.

The grid is fine. The grid will continue to be fine. The one for sure thing we know.

An EV is an appliance. A big one, but not different than an Air Conditioner.

Are you wondering how your city is going to power air conditioners?

“An EV is an appliance. A big one, but not different than an Air Conditioner.”
Ok let’s look at that aspect.
It’s like two large air conditioners requiring two to three times the current.
Why 3 Times ? It doesn’t cycle a compressor, it’s a continuous load.
Compare the ‘Tankless Water heaters’ also requires a 60 amp circuit but we run the hot water for a much shorter duration and again not at full load.

I forget the company and city. It was a trucking company. Tesla built them a fleet of six EV tractor trailers, for route work. The second part of the order was six more.
They had to add extensive power equipment to charge the big trucks.
It was frito lay or a Coca-Cola distributor.

Another company wanted to do the same thing on the same power grid, same city.
The local power company said no.
Says they did not have the additional supply capacity.

This has little to do with flushing toilets.
Water towers can build up water pressure and hold it. Till the mass flush occurs. lol

If you add a Tesla fast home charger you need an extra sixty amp circuit.

Most Everyone will be charging at night.
Millions of homes, millions of cars.

I remember the rolling brown outs in central Florida because we had a long deep cold spell.
Sad thing was the zip codes with important people living in them did not ‘brown out’
Only the poor neighborhoods did.

The grid could not keep up with demand and that was all the 30 amp HVAC systems not the 60 amp fast chargers EV’s will need.

I bet you didn’t know if you plug a EV in a standard 15 amp circuit overnight you will get around a 15-20% charge.

We will have to burn much more coal and gas to generate the extra power. These sources emissions are not as well regulated as cars.
These EV’s in large numbers will impact air quality but no one is talking about that.

These EV’s burn coal, natural gas and other forms of combustible fuels. Hydro electric power is a small percentage.
As for wind power, that was perfectly explained in the show, “Land Man”

A 60 amp circuit running at night for six hours. We will need to double the grids capacity.
We don’t even have the transmission lines for that.
If we start now it will take 30 Years to add the capacity. No one is talking about that.
Head in the sand seems to be the way.

Your wrong.

Gas is plentiful and cheap. Ford has time on their side to get it right.

I see a future where an EV owner is only allowed to charge between certain hours.
Say this zip code can charge between 8 pm and midnight. Another, midnight to 4 am etc.

Another solution to supplement would be a homes roof covered in solar cells feeding the grid when not charging the EV.
Solar panels on every EV’s roof,
Better cells,
Progress, it will come.
It will work for city commuters.

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