Why don't Hybrids get more love?

[Superdog3657]

I didn't buy my maverick hybrid for any other reason than getting the most bang for my buck. Climate change is going to happen no matter what we do, it's beyond our control . As the late George Carlin said , "The planets not going anywhere, we are! ".

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[OneAlienBoi]

I live in the suburbs of Salt Lake City, there are zero single family homes within a few miles of my townhome. Public transportation also isn't really an option here. This isn't just an issue in super densely populated areas.

I mean, we do have UTA, but it's not great. It used to take me 4 hours round trip to commute from Draper station to provo for school, which is about 30 miles away by car for people wondering. During winter, there are times where one would be waiting for two hours or so just for the train to arrive at the station due to delays.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Gotta laugh at the amount of big jacked up 4 x 4 trucks rambling around that have never ever seen and surface other than concrete and asphalt. I'ts a mentality.

Lifted trucks are genuinely one of the dumbest things mankind ever created. I understand some people need to go off-road, 99.9% don't. Not only do lifted trucks look pretty bad from my opinion, but it effectively does away with the only reasons to buy a truck.

I've seen lifted full size trucks where the floor of the bed is basically where the mavericks roof is, and it's like, you'll never be able to put anything in that bed now, and good looking towing with how high your trailer hitch is off the ground. Just don't get the trend. It seems to be done mostly for looks, but just like excessive camber on wheels, it looks terrible.

 

[surfstar]

Lifted trucks are genuinely one of the dumbest things mankind ever created. I understand some people need to go off-road, 99.9% don't. Not only do lifted trucks look pretty bad from my opinion, but it effectively does away with the only reasons to buy a truck.

I've seen lifted full size trucks where the floor of the bed is basically where the mavericks roof is, and it's like, you'll never be able to put anything in that bed now, and good looking towing with how high your trailer hitch is off the ground. Just don't get the trend. It seems to be done mostly for looks, but just like excessive camber on wheels, it looks terrible.

It is simply men trying to attract a mate and/or show off how "successful" they are to the world. Some would say overcompensating could also be at play.

Funny thing is that those type of owners also seem to complain about high gas prices - like they can't figure out the reason their $/mi is high.

 

[Deleted member 7089]

Wow! Since for some reason the admin has allowed this political discussion to go on unchecked...

Looks like some people's definition of political discussion are way different that mine.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

US. Census bureau reports that 40% of Americans do NOT have regular access to recharging <<<IS silly, they can charge them from Home even if you do not have 220V access you can still charge them with 110V. the more accurate statement would be that 40% Americans do not know what it takes to charge a plug-in vehicle

Not to mention that a significant number of the 40% do not know what an electrical plug is.

 

[MinntoMich]

i think most of us agree that the goal is/ should be to reduce Fossil Fuel dependency/emissions by as much as possible as soon as possible right?

Well, Hybrid or EcoBoost the Maverick is a fine vehicle that fills many roles. I chose my hybird Maverick because of the price point, thats it. The excellent economy is a bonus but had the EB been the less expensive of the two at the time then more than likely that would be what I'd be driving now.
You and I may have differing views on energy policy but I think we both can agree that the price of oil or gasoline is volatile.

 

[Old Ford Guy]

Last census suggests ~67% of families live in singe family homes. It's also very area dependent. I live in the suburbs of Salt Lake City, but there isn't a single single family home within ~3 miles of my townhouse. There also are only 3 public charging centers in the area, and they are constantly down. The large majority of those in my area can't drive an EV.

Also, keep in mind that 110v would be fine for some people, but what about people with longer commutes? There are tens of millions of drivers in this country for whom an EV is not a realistic option yet.

my point exactly. for many folks at home EV re-charging is a obstacle that has no easy solution.

 

[GPSMan]

Many, yes.
Most, no.
Good thing there are options.

 

[GPSMan]

Looks like some people's definition of political discussion are way different that mine.

What are YOU talking about?

I've not seen den or ump mentioned once.

 

[icegradner]

Looks like some people's definition of political discussion are way different that mine.

Unfortunately people have made many issues political, rather than just looking at available data. Then again, it's like statistics, a lot of it is just made up (from both sides of the fence) to advance an agenda, whatever that may be. As always the truth is usually found somewhere in the middle.

Personally I picked the hybrid because I like the powertrain, not sending any more of my money than necessary to already rich oil company executives & shareholders, and putting less toxic fumes in the air I breath.

 

[GPSMan]

This site is 90% what's your MPG?, 80% what's this noise and vibration? 50% what oil do you use? 40% what octane is best, and is it worth the cost? And 110% entertainment.

 

[Old Ford Guy]

WTF are you on about here?

If they made an AWD Hybrid Maverick, there would be no need for the EB. It's got nothing to do with "devotion to ICE". That said, the EB was chosen by me after the massive amount of potential issues the 2.5L and it's Hybrid system are currently in across every platform they use it in. It's not a risk I was willing to take going from two vehicles to a single one. I had the Hybrid Escape, loved it at the pump, never trusted it and got rid of it a year and a half later. Plus, experiencing the difference in Montana winters was another factor. When the ICE constantly needs to kick in just to maintain a temperature threshold, and the battery life is diminished at the same time due to the cold, it kind of defeats the purpose and further makes one question reliability. None of this is a "knock" to Hybrid owners btw... the system gets all the love it deserves for being great on MPG... but in terms of reliability, I'll take my chances with the single drivetrain engine, single battery, and a turbo. And btw, the EB is far from perfect, which is also no secret. If they made a non turbo version that got 28+ MPG, I'd be all over that in a heart beat.

Basically, it's about what is being offered and your needs paired with FORD using leftovers to milk profits. We'll take what we can get I guess.

What does bother me, is your intention for this post. Some of us can see right through it. Yes, the Hybrids make more sense. Cool story, bro. This is why the "EB vs. Hybrid" mentality exists on this forum. You guys didn't get enough love as children and now you crave the attention for 10 more MPG... get over it. You win in that category by default. It's no secret. Congrats. The Maverick overall is a great little truck regardless of what engine you chose, but engine is clearly NOT the only factor. What makes more sense in one category fails in another and it's got nothing to do with Hybrid vs. EB at all. It's a "You" thing.



Pretty much this.

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Ignore.

obviously i tweaked a nerve here.
perhaps my post didnt convey what i was trying to say very well for you, my apologies if you took it that way.

my point was now that America has begun what i think we both can agree is a huge push to reduce both fossil fuel dependency & tailpipe emissions Hybrids make a great deal of sense.

there are MANY use cases where neither EV's or Hybrids are appropriate. there is also just plain old personal preference to be considered.

again, i was trying to make the case that for the approximately 40% of Americans who have no at home charging options BHEV's make al lot of sense, you can double your MPG in a lot of cases and eliminate 'range anxiety' when on that occasional road trip, all good things in my opinion.

i happen to have high school friend from the great state of Montana that lives almost 70 miles from the nearest town. what with the real need for AWD in the winter and the long distances to anywhere else he will never be a EV/Hybrid buyer and i get that.
i have ZERO interest in angering the Ecoboost folks, it's your $$ so buy whatever you choose...but...if you happen to live where at home charging is NOT a option (apartments?) then BHEV's seem like a attractive choice.

by the way, i received plenty of love as a child. that was totally gratuitous and unnecessary.

 

[Old Ford Guy]

My devotion is to ICE and i absolutely hate hybrids and EV's. Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

of course they are, it's your $$ so buy what works for you.
happy trails

 

[GPSMan]

obviously i tweaked a nerve here.
perhaps my post didnt convey what i was trying to say very well for you, my apologies if you took it that way.

my point was now that America has begun what i think we both can agree is a huge push to reduce both fossil fuel dependency & tailpipe emissions Hybrids make a great deal of sense.

there are MANY use cases where neither EV's or Hybrids are appropriate. there is also just plain old personal preference to be considered.

again, i was trying to make the case that for the approximately 40% of Americans who have no at home charging options BHEV's make al lot of sense, you can double your MPG in a lot of cases and eliminate 'range anxiety' when on that occasional road trip, all good things in my opinion.

i happen to have high school friend from the great state of Montana that lives almost 70 miles from the nearest town. what with the real need for AWD in the winter and the long distances to anywhere else he will never be a EV/Hybrid buyer and i get that.
i have ZERO interest in angering the Ecoboost folks, it's your $$ so buy whatever you choose...but...if you happen to live where at home charging is NOT a option (apartments?) then BHEV's seem like a attractive choice.

by the way, i received plenty of love as a child. that was totally gratuitous and unnecessary.

You are making general statements when I think in your head you are thinking EB maverick vs. Hybrid maverick.

There are other HYBRIDS that are 4 wheel drive a tow A LOT. Short of the poles, there's not cold weather that hybrid in general can't tackle.

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