Tired of the Auto Stop Start? Install Autostop Eliminator

[MattIngram]

I also hated stop/start when it came out, mainly due to experiencing it in a Jeep Cherokee, where the start stop was very noticeable. I’ve learned to tolerate it in my wife’s bronco sport because it’s barely noticeable, and Ford did a good job improving over other brands. I do agree that the owners should be allowed to bypass altogether in the options but I suspect, as another poster mentioned maybe the EPA required engagement without bypass to count in the MPG. That still doesn’t make it right.

All of that seems a moot point because I ordered a hybrid and the handoff from gasoline to electric motors will require starting/stopping the engine to cut over between electric/gasoline. I think electric is most likely the future for normal consumers at least for some time. I think hydrogen will most likely be the future for commercial and maybe eventually consumers, as they find ways to make it more safe/affordable. Manufacturers will adapt to new and different materials, new alloys/solid state batteries will be developed, people will adapt to charging by installing solar panels on their homes, or community solar panels.

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[Tman]

I have a new Maverick and barely notice the auto stop feature at all. But if you guys have a spare $100 to piss away go for it. Truly a first world problem

 

[clippedwings]

This thread has been useful if only to yank enough chains to get several users who actually have a vehicle with this system to chime in with reports of how it behaves in actual use. BTW, i’d like to know why switching the CC system to the front vent would have any effect on the autostart???

 

[skadizzle]

Question regarding the driving modes, do they stay in the last mode used or do they default to one each time you turn the car on? I have a Rav4 that is much quicker in Sport mode, but every time you turn the car off, it defaults back to ECO

 

[Caper]

For those who drive in city traffic I a can maybe see a small fuel saving but for me I am not waiting at traffic lights much so this feature is just a nuisance that I would like to be able to have the option to engage or not to better suit my needs and driving style.

 

[Snax]

Sadly, Clean air isn’t something that we can take for granted anymore, so it seems shortsighted to spend $100 to generate more pollution. Maybe just use the button when you are stuck in stop-and-go traffic occasionally, and otherwise feel good that your truck isn’t pumping out as much junk the rest of the time.

 

[Old Ranchero]

Question regarding the driving modes, do they stay in the last mode used or do they default to one each time you turn the car on? I have a Rav4 that is much quicker in Sport mode, but every time you turn the car off, it defaults back to ECO

My 2005 E450, 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2018 F-150 all default to Normal mode on next startup after shutting off engine.

 

[Old Ranchero]

Everyone in here is clamoring for this with the mere remorse of spending $100, and well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but eliminating this feature is going to likely add an additional hundred or more to your fuel budget per year. Not to mention it will also blatantly contribute to an unnecessary increase in emissions and a subsequent drop in air quality, but hey yolo, right?

comes across to me more like Fear Mongering and Superiority complex with a little finger wagging shaming on top. And you don't hate it at all. You do you, I'll be me.

 

[MavrickEcoBoost]

One would think, but no it cannot be.

It actually can be done in Forscan. Ive done that exact thing with the program in my Ranger and then in friends F150s, Edge, and Explorer.

There is even a 4 minute video on Youtube to use as reference.

 

[LelandJ]

I just like the fact that it doesn't disable auto start/stop completely, it just essentially saves the setting you last used. I might like the feature, but if I hate it then at least I won't be bothered by having to switch it off every time I get in the car. It seems like the best of both worlds.

 

[clippedwings]

comes across to me more like Fear Mongering and Superiority complex with a little finger wagging shaming on top. And you don't hate it at all. You do you, I'll be me.

Having been on the planet for over 3/4 of a century, and having lived through maybe one of the grandest times in human history, partly through the luck of being born in the U.S., and partly out of blissful ignorance of the toll I was taking on the Mother Rock, I think the attitude that you have the right to be totally free to do whatever you want, might just be disastrous behavior for the species in general. Might be philosophically hard to accept. But the proof is in the pudding. We are seeing the result of this attitude in another area right now. I’m willing to make some compromise in my vehicle because it’s the intelligent thing to do at this point in our history.

 

[Old Ranchero]

No I don’t think so, I tried to use it for a week and my mileage stayed the same. Pulling out quickly when you don’t realize your truck is off is pretty unnerving. Even if you saved a buck here and there, what about start up wear and tear. I would love for the settings screen to include an auto start stop default option where you change it from default on to default off. Then if i wanted to use it i could push the button, but upon start up it would default to off. Of course that is what the eliminator does.

when I started driving and working on vehicles in the early 1970's, conventional wisdom was starting your vehicle excessively & unnecessarily leads to premature wear and failure of your starter. Never seen that debunked and logic says it probably is true. There have also been many published test reports over the decades showing you use MORE gas with multiple re-starts (like in a slow fast food drive thru) instead of simply letting it idle with all systems at maximum efficiency controlled by CPUs while you wait. I was also certified as a Smog technician in California and there are multiple "downstream" pollution control devices that reset each time you start your vehicle to optimize your pollution control system performance. It's why they test your vehicle fully warmed up.

In addition to all that, when your engine is off you can lose your power steering, power assisted brakes and all systems requiring engine operating to function. Ever tried to step on brakes or turn steering wheel with engine off? Run out of gas while driving and find it hard to pull over with heavy steering and brakes? Try it sitting somewhere on level ground and wheels blocked so you won't roll. This is definitely unsafe! Lastly, there are plenty of horrible drivers out there that create unsafe conditions like jumping back and forth between lanes in stop and go, pulling out in front of you without warning, running red lights, tailgating and/or misjudge stopping distance approaching behind you (I've been hit from behind 3 times while stopped) and I want the confidence I can punch it and get out of the way if I sense trouble coming my way. Now I realize the start/stop feature is nearly seamless on re-starting but I still want that extra split-second of time to react and possibly avoid a bad situation.

I also haven't seen any data proving the on/off feature saves gas and increases MPG. That seems to be a common theme in support of the feature- but is that proven or just a sales gimmick?

 

[Old Ranchero]

Having been on the planet for over 3/4 of a century, and having lived through maybe one of the grandest times in human history, partly through the luck of being born in the U.S., and partly out of blissful ignorance of the toll I was taking on the Mother Rock, I think the attitude that you have the right to be totally free to do whatever you want, might just be disastrous behavior for the species in general. Might be philosophically hard to accept. But the proof is in the pudding. We are seeing the result of this attitude in another area right now. I’m willing to make some compromise in my vehicle because it’s the intelligent thing to do at this point in our history.

You know nothing of my "attitude" towards anything. There are laws, principals, and societal norms and customs I adhere to. What I don't like is being manipulated, brow beaten into conforming, and flat out lied to by government and people in powerful positions with agendas I don't agree with. Being told things are "settled" science when decisions are made in my name behind closed doors without public scrutiny and discussions and called names when I object to the process and lack of honesty in the entire process to force a pre-determined outcome and rejecting any other solutions or paths available is just wrong- and I don't want any part of it.

 

[Big_T]

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BTW, i’d like to know why switching the CC system to the front vent would have any effect on the autostart???

It's to keep the engine running to provide heat for windshield defrost to ensure safe vision.

 

[giddyup]

BTW, i’d like to know why switching the CC system to the front vent would have any effect on the autostart???

I believe that is because it causes a blower motor to run, thereby creating enough load to prevent the PCM from shutting off the engine.

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