This is not right.

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@Kynno
Is the window sticker blue or green? Simple way to answer the mystery of how these are available for $5k markup.

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[mktmgrjrm]

So would a person that does understand mind educating the poor guy that doesn't?

First off, there were several thousand MY22 orders that did not get built - some were rolled over to MY23's when FORD decided that they couldn't build all the orders that were placed. In November there were about 7,000 (if I remember correctly) orders that had been given build dates and VIN #'s that FORD decided they couldn't build in a reasonable time - these orders were all then cancelled and re-entered as MY23 orders by FORD. Truthfully, FORD should not have opened the order banks in September for the MY23's as they hadn't even come close to building all the MY22's - and there were so many orders placed in September that they closed the order banks after about four days or so. So in all likelihood, the 3 trucks you say your dealer has on the lot are special order MY22 carry-overs that didn't get built (converted to MY23's) and with such a long wait the original buyers decided not to take them. If you read through this forum you'll find many, many folks that have been waiting 400+ days and still don't have a truck - including me (480 days). FORD also had a requirement that all these orders had to be sold to the person that ordered them, so the likelihood that dealers had their staff order trucks for stock probably didn't happen very often. Supposedly doing this could impact a dealer's allocations. Any trucks that weren't claimed by the person that ordered them then became available for the dealer to sell at whatever price they thought they could get.

 

[paneubert]

First off, there were several thousand MY22 orders that did not get built - some were rolled over to MY23's when FORD decided that they couldn't build all the orders that were placed. In November there were about 7,000 (if I remember correctly) orders that had been given build dates and VIN #'s that FORD decided they couldn't build in a reasonable time - these orders were all then cancelled and re-entered as MY23 orders by FORD. Truthfully, FORD should not have opened the order banks in September for the MY23's as they hadn't even come close to building all the MY22's - and there were so many orders placed in September that they closed the order banks after about four days or so. So in all likelihood, the 3 trucks you say your dealer has on the lot are special order MY22 carry-overs that didn't get built (converted to MY23's) and with such a long wait the original buyers decided not to take them. If you read through this forum you'll find many, many folks that have been waiting 400+ days and still don't have a truck - including me (480 days). FORD also had a requirement that all these orders had to be sold to the person that ordered them, so the likelihood that dealers had their staff order trucks for stock probably didn't happen very often. Supposedly doing this could impact a dealer's allocations. Any trucks that weren't claimed by the person that ordered them then became available for the dealer to sell at whatever price they thought they could get.

Good summary. I'll bet the trucks the OP is posting about are almost certainly "rollover 22s" that the original customer abandoned. Even if simply based on the fact they are on the lot at this point. Both stock and "first ordered in 23" trucks are barely rolling off the line, let alone making it to dealer lots yet.

 

[jahl]

Both stock and "first ordered in 23" trucks are barely rolling off the line, let alone making it to dealer lots yet.

Ford has produced and delivered many thousand 23s, and most of them have been "first ordered in 23" trucks. Also, stock orders are not rolling off the line.

 

[Larry the lariat]

I was told by the dealer that every Maverick order they have they prioritized them a 12.

This is very simple…

Check the build sheet. It will tell you there. If you are, in fact 12, you have a good chance of receiving the truck. For that you’re very lucky.

If you don’t want to pay the mark up, don’t. Keep waiting for your truck to get delivered. If for whatever reason it doesn’t, you won’t be rolled over to 2024.

If you decide to cancel the order because you don’t want to wait or other life events. The truck you ordered will be on that lot just like the ones you’re talking about. And some person will say, that’s a stock order. Vicious cycle.

So now, hurry up and wait!

 

[paneubert]

Ford has produced and delivered many thousand 23s, and most of them have been "first ordered in 23" trucks. Also, stock orders are not rolling off the line.

Many thousand across many thousand dealerships does not equal 3 at this one dealer available for sale. I'll bet money these are not fresh 23s.

"There are 2,965 Ford Motor Company dealerships in the United States as of February 20, 2023".

Also, many of those 23s were fleet orders. Folks have posted many photos of row upon row of brand new white XL 23s.

 

[jahl]

Many thousand across many thousand dealerships does not equal 3 at this one dealer available for sale. I'll bet money these are not fresh 23s.

The vast majority of built and delivered 23 Mavericks are fresh orders, not rollovers. The statement "only 10% of the 23 Mavericks produced so far are rollovers, so it is most likely that these at the dealer are rollovers" makes little sense.

 

[BradnChristine]

Good summary. I'll bet the trucks the OP is posting about are almost certainly "rollover 22s" that the original customer abandoned. Even if simply based on the fact they are on the lot at this point. Both stock and "first ordered in 23" trucks are barely rolling off the line, let alone making it to dealer lots yet.

The one other issue that is occurring is that the cancelled and rollover orders are not always as produced as they should be. Since Ford changed package contents, like what is in the Lariat Lux (6 items were removed in the 2023 Lux package that were in the 2022 Lux package) some folks are likely rejecting their trucks as things were missing. If you left the rollover or cancel/reorder up to the dealer, a lot of screwups were made. The most common seems to be the failure to check the box for the new Copilot 360 Assist package (where Adaptive Cruise and rear parking sensors reside).

Not everyone is financially able to take a car they don't want and flip it. You can see Lariat Hybrids on the market that have no Adaptive Cruise, and a screwed up order is likely the reason it wasn't purchased. OP is just trying to find a bad guy to blame. Be patient. The process is long. Mine was 491 days.

 

[paneubert]

The vast majority of built and delivered 23 Mavericks are fresh orders, not rollovers. The statement "only 10% of the 23 Mavericks produced so far are rollovers, so it is most likely that these at the dealer are rollovers" makes little sense.

Shrug. Doesn't change my thoughts on this specific situation. If dealerships didn't priority code their "rollovers" (term used loosely since they weren't actually rollovers) properly so they got produced before fresh 23s, thats an entirely different conversation.

 

[mktmgrjrm]

The vast majority of built and delivered 23 Mavericks are fresh orders, not rollovers. The statement "only 10% of the 23 Mavericks produced so far are rollovers, so it is most likely that these at the dealer are rollovers" makes little sense.

This is likely not true. FORD produced about 20,000+ Mavericks in December, January, and February as MY23's. There were at least 7,000 MY22 orders with VIN's that were cancelled and then re-entered as MY23's - this was done in November just before MY23 production started. There were likely as many or more MY22 orders that had already been rolled over to MY23. That's at least 2/3's of the production. Yes there have been a good number of 'new' MY23 orders produced, but I would venture a guess that the majority of the delivered trucks up to the end of February were roll-overs. FORD 'suggested' to the dealers that they prioritize the roll-overs as 10 and the 'new' orders as 15. Most certainly some dealers didn't do this, but a large percentage did.

 

[jahl]

FORD 'suggested' to the dealers that they prioritize the roll-overs as 10 and the 'new' orders as 15. Most certainly some dealers didn't do this, but a large percentage did.

Even if they did put them in as 10, that carries little weight.

 

[mktmgrjrm]

It carries little weight if the dealer puts ALL their orders in as 10's, but FORD looks at priority 10 orders first, then goes to 11, then 12, etc. You are right that priority doesn't mean much to FORD, but it does mean something to an individual dealer - they can control which orders get looked at by FORD for scheduling consideration.

EDIT: this is based on the assumption that the dealer actually has an allocation for an order. If they don't, priority 10 doesn't mean a dang thing.

 

[LongLivePeart2112]

Whatever the root cause, my guess is many and perhaps most folks would be frustrated if confronted with OP’s scenario. It’s not hard to think the worst and cold comfort even when things are on the up-and-up.

@Kynno, I hope the log jam beaks breaks for you soon!

 

[GAP]

My dealer has 3 trucks on the lot 5k over MRSP --one of them includes 3 "constraint" items -2 are identical to my order except color.This is not right.

I agree

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