I had a family member return a new car because it had auto-emergency braking. Their complaint was, "The car keeps hitting the brakes and yelling at me!" Instead of taking that as a hint that they suck at driving they bought a car without it.
For sure. That's the crazy thing about being a parent, though. The what-if's now are not the what-if's of later, and you want both.
I agree, the majority of members here are helpful and respectful. This is a good place to learn and enjoy our vehicles.
Seriously, that is very helpful commentary and insights.
I really think at this point for a second row person to be safer and front seats to work as planned , the only solution would be a larger vehicle to offer more space.
I didn’t see where the OP stated he weighs 325 lbs. If that is accurate, then it explains why the seat extended beyond the 35 degrees of rotation safety limit. To me it looks like 40 degrees of rotation (keep in mind that no one sits at 0 degrees of rotation normally, but the seat starts at 15 or so degrees reclined.
yes to both of these.
The OP has already stated that he'd rather use multiple vehicles than put a backseat passenger at risk, so maybe his vehicle of choice should be a standard cab (no backseat) pickup?
Standard cab is worse for injuries from rear impacts. The back wall of the cab prevents the seat from deforming. The deformation is responsible for stretching out the time frame that energy is imparted into the occupants, which lowers their G force load.
Dang! That’s a major big deal with the safety rules/laws. I had no idea how dangerous it is to be in the back seat in a rear-ender.Hey friends. This is a follow-up to my previous post here. I wanted to start a new thread for visibility.
Back story: Owner of a '23 Lariat Tremor. I was on a 2 lane road at a traffic light, waiting to turn left with my signal on and yielding to traffic. Speed limit is 45. My wife was in the passenger seat. We were rear-ended by a Volvo SUV at what was likely the speed limit. The hit was pretty dead on. There were no brake marks and witnesses said there was no indication of braking. Seatbelts were on. Airbags didn't deploy, which seems to be intentional as they wouldn't have done anything.
My seat collapsed fully, and my head rest nearly came off. I went backwards hitting the top/back of my head on the rear seat just below my headrest, breaking the skin. The glossy spot in the below photo is my blood. My wife's seat collapsed, but stopped 2-3 inches short of the rear seat (the photo angle distorts how low it actually was). She was uninjured aside from whiplash.
I've registered a complaint with the NHTSA, as well as located a similar complaint with a '22 that can be found by filtering to "seats." I've not contacted Ford, given their history with this scenario.
I willabsolutely neverlikely won't purchase a Ford again and am actively looking to get rid of my wife's Bronco Sport. My 12 and 20 year old typically ride in the back and the truck was our road trip vehicle. If my 20 year old had been there, their legs would have been crushed and the top of my skull would have gone right into their nose area, causing god knows what kind of damage. My 12 year old would have definitely sustained leg injuries as well. Now we're down a car and having to all ride in a SUV built on the same platform.
This is a known issue, in all vehicles, due to an outdated NHTSA safety standard. You can read about it here and here, and about the act introduced to correct the issue (which I believe has not gone into effect) here. Also a video from CBS here. Wild to think a long-running issue that's killing children isn't a big enough deal for car manufacturers to invest in correcting.
