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I don't know what the big deal is about this. I am just going to let Ford do the work and then I will be done with it and I will not have to think about it anymore. I have absolutely no concerns about the engine. Anyway, if the engine is going to break it will happen in the first 36K and it will then be replaced under warranty. At that point, I would have a brand new engine.
You are naïve to think swapping an engine out is no big deal. Especially as part of a warranty repair, performed by a flat rate mechanic. You would be very lucky not to have any other mechanical issues from replacing an engine. It is not a simple process, especially with a hybrid.
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You are naïve to think swapping an engine out is no big deal. Especially as part of a warranty repair, performed by a flat rate mechanic. You would be very lucky not to have any other mechanical issues from replacing an engine. It is not a simple process, especially with a hybrid.
"Naive"? You have to be kidding? I have driven my cars approaching two million miles in my life. I drove each of my last two nearly 300,000 miles each. I am pretty sure I know what I am doing with my cars. .... I am hardly going to obsess about whether my hybrid motor might (by some remote chance) fail and if so the process to fix it. I will let others worry about that for me.
 
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Those shutters are there to maintain proper engine temperature, removing a bit of them may cause the engine to take more time to warm up properly in cold weather, it may make a slight difference in fuel economy at that time.
Right! We get this diminishment in functionality in exchange for saving us from a million to one odds fire potential. I want another FITS kit! /jk
 

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I've never had a recall that actually reduced the functionality of a component.

I'm guessing that Ford would charge ~$600 plus parts to repair a damaged shutter unit. I wonder if I can get a $600 rebate, since Ford is damaging my shutter unit?
 

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I've never had a recall that actually reduced the functionality of a component.

I'm guessing that Ford would charge ~$600 plus parts to repair a damaged shutter unit. I wonder if I can get a $600 rebate, since Ford is damaging my shutter unit?
If it bothers you so much you can always ask to be provided the removed parts and put them back on yourself.
 

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You are naïve to think swapping an engine out is no big deal. Especially as part of a warranty repair, performed by a flat rate mechanic. You would be very lucky not to have any other mechanical issues from replacing an engine. It is not a simple process, especially with a hybrid.
Yeah, you’d likely have a few other things to fix, but once it’s all worked out, it should be like having a new engine. I saw a post very recently where a Ford mechanic discussed engine replacement in a Maverick, done to fix a transmission problem. He said it wasn’t all that difficult. I have no personal experience, so can’t judge it for myself.
 

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If it bothers you so much you can always ask to be provided the removed parts and put them back on yourself.
I'd rather that Ford figure out a way to fix the issue without reducing the functionality of the component. For example, adding a fume sensor or spring-loaded thermostat that opens the shutters in the event of fume accumulation or a fire.

Maybe if Ford finds that they have a tire issue, they'll just force you to drive on your rims? Or perhaps a defect in the bed means that they'll just remove the bed? Bad paint job--just sandblast the whole truck? Defective airbag--just replace them with shipping peanuts? OK, these are extreme, but the principle is the same.
 

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You will not be able to transfer, sell or trade your vehicle with a known open recall. Fines are steep and federally regulated.
Is that a state or local law where you are? Because every website I have checked says that an owner can sell a used car with an open recall. Here are some examples:
Is It Illegal to Sell Used Vehicles With Open Recalls? (motorbiscuit.com)
Top Tips For Buying Or Selling A Vehicle With An Open Recall | Endurance Warranty

Is there some source that says you can't sell it?
No No No. Manufacturer defect that Ford refused to fix. The catastrophic engine failure and fire is their responsibility for not doing the proper repair to protect the passengers from the catastrophic event. I have seen several Lawyer websites chomping at the bit to try one of these cases.
The post you were responding to asked about an owner declining the recall fix.
You are talking about Ford refusing to do the recall fix.

Apples and oranges.
 

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"Naive"? You have to be kidding? I have driven my cars approaching two million miles in my life. I drove each of my last two nearly 300,000 miles each. I am pretty sure I know what I am doing with my cars. .... I am hardly going to obsess about whether my hybrid motor might (by some remote chance) fail and if so the process to fix it. I will let others worry about that for me.
You talk about swapping an engine out like it's akin to an oil change or something. So yes, you sound naive. Just b/c you drive a lot means nothing. I wouldn't stress over it either, but if the engine failed and it needed replaced, I certainly wouldn't nonchalantly say "No problem, they can just swap it out." At a minimum you're out of a car for weeks or longer, especially with the parts shortage.
 

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Is that a state or local law where you are? Because every website I have checked says that an owner can sell a used car with an open recall. Here are some examples:
Is It Illegal to Sell Used Vehicles With Open Recalls? (motorbiscuit.com)
Top Tips For Buying Or Selling A Vehicle With An Open Recall | Endurance Warranty

Is there some source that says you can't sell it?

The post you were responding to asked about an owner declining the recall fix.
You are talking about Ford refusing to do the recall fix.

Apples and oranges.
The recall is not for a crankshaft fix. It is for a potential fire caused by a crankshaft /engine failure.
The recall should be for the crankshaft fix, the cause of the fire. Ford has refused to fix the real problem and they are still legally responsible for any adverse occurrences that occur.

Butchering the pan is not a fix for anything. It's just a band aid on a much larger problem at FORD.
 
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Is that a state or local law where you are? Because every website I have checked says that an owner can sell a used car with an open recall. Here are some examples:
Is It Illegal to Sell Used Vehicles With Open Recalls? (motorbiscuit.com)
Top Tips For Buying Or Selling A Vehicle With An Open Recall | Endurance Warranty

Is there some source that says you can't sell it?

The post you were responding to asked about an owner declining the recall fix.
You are talking about Ford refusing to do the recall fix.

Apples and oranges.
Attached to every recall notice I receive. It applies to any car (new or used) we sell. Don't assume that because you are not a reseller it may not apply. In my opinion, they would still have to prove that you knew about the recall, but I personally wouldn't want the liability if they could.
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Attached to every recall notice I receive. It applies to any car (new or used) we sell. Don't assume that because you are not a reseller it may not apply. In my opinion, they would still have to prove that you knew about the recall, but I personally wouldn't want the liability if they could.
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Is it in violation of Federal Law to sell a vehicle with a known manufacturer defect that can kill you with shrapnel or burn you alive? What is the civil penalty for the current failure of the Escape and has FORD paid the fine? Can you say FORD PINTO?
 

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Is it in violation of Federal Law to sell a vehicle with a known manufacturer defect that can kill you with shrapnel or burn you alive? What is the civil penalty for the current failure of the Escape and has FORD paid the fine? Can you say FORD PINTO?
I'm just saying that we live in a litigious society, and any lawyer will go where his client takes him. If your car burns up and causes injury or death and you knowingly ignore a recall that may have been the cause, it could be you with the liability.

Ford Pinto recall was in '77 or '78. Would you ignore the recall on your '72 Pinto with what was happening to them? I doubt it.
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