Never Again Ford! 2022 Maverick needs a new transmission

[dochawk]

silly question, but is the newer transmission a direct replacement?

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[Hootbro]

The 8f35 is a ticking time bomb design. There is no way to change the internal filter, so the transmission will, eventually, either choke itself off of fluid or will allow metal particulates through, grenading the rest of the system.

The hybrid, OTOH, is a time proven design Ford has used for well over a decade without significant issue, likely due to influence from Toyota. Most of Ford's best parts came form the Japanese, the Ranger was a Mazda truck, the OG taurus had that yamaha engine, and the duratec V6s were descendent from another Mazda engine design.

The 8f35 gets bashed because it is an intentionally poor design. Building a filter that cannot be changed into a transmission is the definition of planned obsolescence.

It also has a nasty reputation from well before the Maverick. It was failing in Transit connects before this, and the two transmissions it was built from, the 6f35 and chevy 9T50, both had the same issue of self grenading due to a non serviceable filter and other cheap parts in the 6f35's case.

Depends. If its a new one, a new transmission is ~$7500, and you have to count the 19 or so hours of labor its going to take to rip the truck apart, replace the transmission, put it back together, and program it.

Most internal transmission filters that are only serviceable by transmission removal and splitting the case are glorified rock catching sieves. Those type of transmissions rely on regular fluid dump and fills to remove the finer wear materials than the non serviceable filter being an expected low micron catch trap of wear material.

I think in this case, it is a bit much to expect the ULV fluid to put the miles in without a more truncated service schedule.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Unless
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...s-from-my-2025-awd-xlt-2-0-eb-maverick.85187/

Hey, that's My thread!!

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Saw that post... "Test and tune" nights are fun! However, that's why I own a car that isn't my daily driver, so I can drive to Famoso in Bakersfield for those special Friday nights...

That's My thread and why I only made 3 passes since it's My DD? What does this car above run?

 

[JazznSF]

That's My thread and why I only made 3 passes since it's My DD? What does this car above run?

It's not nearly as fast as your Maverick, even though it has a 350ci V8. I'll try to find all the time slips, but if memory serves, the last time my son and I ran it at Famoso the best pass was 15.88 @ 90+ mph. (I don't recall the exact trap speed.)

The first time I took it over was the slowest for sure... that was fifteen years ago. I know that time for certain: 16.77 @ 82.7... so improving by nearly a second and nearly 10 mph we were pretty happy... not bad for "Grandma's Grocery Getter."

The improvement didn't happen all at once. Over the years I've tweaked the timing to make better power on 93 octane instead of 87, and learned a trick or two about cutting a good light and launching hard without wheel spin. It's always a fun time!

I have yet to take my '17 Mazda GT over... that would be a fun one, and pretty quick I'd expect...

 

[Chops]

The 8f35 is a ticking time bomb design. There is no way to change the internal filter, so the transmission will, eventually, either choke itself off of fluid or will allow metal particulates through, grenading the rest of the system.

The hybrid, OTOH, is a time proven design Ford has used for well over a decade without significant issue, likely due to influence from Toyota. Most of Ford's best parts came form the Japanese, the Ranger was a Mazda truck, the OG taurus had that yamaha engine, and the duratec V6s were descendent from another Mazda engine design.

The 8f35 gets bashed because it is an intentionally poor design. Building a filter that cannot be changed into a transmission is the definition of planned obsolescence.

It also has a nasty reputation from well before the Maverick. It was failing in Transit connects before this, and the two transmissions it was built from, the 6f35 and chevy 9T50, both had the same issue of self grenading due to a non serviceable filter and other cheap parts in the 6f35's case.

Depends. If its a new one, a new transmission is ~$7500, and you have to count the 19 or so hours of labor its going to take to rip the truck apart, replace the transmission, put it back together, and program it.

Ford is on its second or third Gen of the Maverick Hybrid eCVT? Crap bearings and a filter that can’t be replaced…

Don’t even ask it to tow 4K until the current Gen…

 

[Pknopp]

Just to note........before my Maverick I had a 2019 Honda Ridgeline. If you read the Ridgeline forums every other post is how your 6 speed transmission was going to fail. 2017-2021.

You have this with many manufacturers. And if it did fail, $10,000 if done at the dealership. Mine had 85,000 miles when I traded it and not a blip and I towed with it.

Super easy to change the fluid on a Ridgeline.

Just a bit of advice. Some were successful in getting help from Honda even after the warranty. Press Ford and see if You can get them to assist in the repair.

Before that I had a 2012 VW TDI. If you read their forums it was only a matter of time before your HPFP exploded sending shrapnel all through the fuel system. 100,000 on that with no problems.

It certainly sucks for those that have an issue but it seems most cars will have something but most never experience it.

Call Ford.

 

[808Goose!]

The 8f35 gets bashed because it is an intentionally poor design. Building a filter that cannot be changed into a transmission is the definition of planned obsolescence.

Which transaxles today still have replaceable filters? I don't know of any including the HF45. Most everything will fail at some point no matter how good its reputation is or how good you think it is. Auto manufacturers engineer their products with different performance priorities today than yesterday and manufacturing quality has evolved as well. Many years ago I worked in a dual product line dealership and many more Toyotas were sold than Chevrolet yet the service department was saddled with many more downed Chevys than Toyotas. Today, this same dealership continues to sell more Toyotas than Chevys, but the service department has more downed Toyotas than Chevys. So what's my point here? No matter what anyone thinks or believes, every mechanical product will break down eventually. Some sooner, some later so you roll the dice with every purchase you make. And thank you all for reminding me to change the trans fluid in my wife's car.

 

[Cherokee]

Should’ve purchased the extended warranty.

 

[DinoLord]

Most 8F35's in Mavericks are toast by 100k.

Source?

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Just found out from Autonation Ford here in Mobile that my 2022 Maverick needs a new transmission for over $10,000. Apparently one of the gears has gone and there's metal in the transmission fluid. Warranty has expired and I still owe money on that car. I hope people read this and bypass buying any Ford product.

Papa told me to never own a vehicle that cannot be walked away from at next intersection! I used that to justify 7 year ext warranty on my 2022 maverick lariat hybrid. I did not buy extended warranty on my 2022 seldom used backup Maverick hybrid xlt! I normally purchase used vehicles but in 2022 used vehicles were way too high compared to new. Sorry about your problem, perhaps you can find a used/rebuilt trans cheaper?

 

[DinoLord]

Yes, 48 month is possible as well. As for new 22's in 2023, very unlikely. 22's cleared off the lots before the 23's arrived, demand was well above supply back then. Post history shows the OP bought the 22 used in 2023.

Considering Ford was still *producing* 2022 Mavericks until almost Thanksgiving, and how logistics struggled at the time, there were definitely quite a few 22s sold new in 23.

 

[gregghemmen]

My 2022 Maverick XLT 2.0L AWD is currently in the shop with the 2nd transmission likely being replaced. There's about 10,000 miles on this 2nd transmission. When the first transmission was replaced at about 80k miles, truck was in the shop for 46 days, and I paid about 1/3 of the cost of replacement because warranty had expired. This 2nd transmission has a 3-year unlimited miles warranty and I'm about 1-year (10k miles) into that warranty. Truck now has about 91,000 miles on it now. I've followed all recommended service and always serviced at a Ford dealer and I'm trying to decide if I should trust the 3rd transmission or if this truck is a lemon and I should sell it as soon as it's fixed. If I sell it, I'll need to disclose the transmission work which I'm assuming will greatly impact selling price. Any advice?

 

[fretman_2]

Additional information...I did buy and finance the vehicle used, but the warranty was still good. I took the truck in to the dealer on a previous recall (one of many) and complained of a vibration at hwy speeds. They said they could find nothing. I thought it was new tires out of balance and took it into the tire shop twice. And that was all done while the warranty was still good. Yes...a new transmission is cheaper than a new car. But it's very disappointing given my Tiguan was just about perfect and given that I really wanted to give American made cars a chance. I know 2022 was the first year of the Mavrick, but the Tiguan I owned was the first year production model of that line. I've also had problems with the entertainment system wigging out and a persistent vibration in the dash. No vibrations in the Tiguan even after 130K miles.

 

[MaverickDragon]

Ahh your one of those HYBRID or nothing guys...... And your eCVT will go 500K right... Not nearly enough data yet.

The eCVT DESIGN used in the Maverick has millions of miles on it, and it has been proven to be very reliable.
It's also an uncomplicated design compared to any standard multi-speed automatic, and is more like a differential, design wise.

Torque converter? Nope. Fluid used in power transfer? Nope. Internal clutch packs? Nope.
Electric power handles reverse.
It also comes with an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty.
If the OP had the hybrid, although unlikely to have a problem, if it failed he would get it repaired free.

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