MY22 Order Honesty?

[HybridOnOrder]

C. Now they did take orders for more than they could deliver this year but Ford gets no money from orders. Your dealer may take a deposit but that money doesn't go to Ford. Your order is a ticket that says build me a vehicle like this, and I will pay you when you make it. If you paid in full up front it would be reasonable to expect Ford to have the parts purchased and sitting somewhere ready to build. The issue with that is running a production line like that would make the vehicle significantly more expensive and the maverick would lose it's afford price that makes it so appealing to people. The production issues are not just Ford, every automaker is having this problem. The only difference is that most other automakers don't allow custom orders like Ford does so the nitty gritty details get obfuscated.

I am not saying Ford couldn't improve communication during the order and build process. But their build process and inventory management is what allow them to sell Mavericks at the price they set. If you want to buy a maverick where all the parts are already allocated then you have to buy one off the lot. It is a situation that sucks but trying to paint blame here doesn't fix anything.

UMMMM..."

You do realize that Ford is only selling what they can deliver.

UMMMM...."You do realize that Ford is only selling what they can deliver. "
GREAT! I am ready for my delivery.
I read about this vehicle actually being a hodgepodge of parts from former ford vehicles, like the steering wheel from here, the pedal from there.....like it basically was a parts bin car. And they cut off the ordering banks when they "reached the point where they no longer had the parts to build more".
With those declarations for what they were putting out publicly, every 2022 should have been built.
I'm not really hammering them for their 'communication' or unforeseen parts constraints and world events.
It's just those are the two things that Ford put out in the world for what they offering. So, if that was factual.....welllll....

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[HybridOnOrder]

A month? And you believed it? Was that the salesman's first day?

We have gotten vehicles in 4-6 weeks before....usually Escapes. Maverick's take a month to get to the dealer after they are produced.

By September, it was widely known that there were major delays and parts shortages for new vehicles. And that Mavericks were taking a long time to schedule because there was so much demand.

Yes, I believed him. And no, I had no idea of shortages or delays.
Summer of '21 I rented a car, and that car had all the new (to me) safety equipment, like adaptive cruise control, lane assist, etc. And I wanted that.
I sold my 2017 Honda, (which had none of that) because I wanted to have more safety equipment.
I had zero knowledge of the ins and outs of automotive building delays.
It sounds like you work for a car dealer. I am a woman working in corporate-nothing to do with vehicles.
So maybe YOU knew. I don't know if the average consumer had a clue mid 2021.
We all know now!

 

[KevCuRaoi]

Yes, I believed him. And no, I had no idea of shortages or delays.
Summer of '21 I rented a car, and that car had all the new (to me) safety equipment, like adaptive cruise control, lane assist, etc. And I wanted that.
I sold my 2017 Honda, (which had none of that) because I wanted to have more safety equipment.
I had zero knowledge of the ins and outs of automotive building delays.
It sounds like you work for a car dealer. I am a woman working in corporate-nothing to do with vehicles.
So maybe YOU knew. I don't know if the average consumer had a clue mid 2021.
We all know now!

I do work for a small car dealer. When I ordered my Maverick in June (the 2nd day possible) I thought I would have it by October. I was very wrong. By September we (dealers and much of the public active on these forums) knew that Mavericks, especially hybrids, were going to be delayed.

Everything is up in the air and subject to change. Your dealer should have been upfront with you and told you that they weren't sure about the timing and that your order might be delayed. (None of us would have guess that orders from Aug and Sept might not be scheduled this model year though!) I tell people it could be 2-12 months to order a new vehicle and that there may be delays.

I waited 11 months for my hybrid. It finally came, and I'm happy with it!

I do hope that it works out for you and you get your hybrid soon!

 

[Vince30]

Yes, I believed him. And no, I had no idea of shortages or delays.
Summer of '21 I rented a car, and that car had all the new (to me) safety equipment, like adaptive cruise control, lane assist, etc. And I wanted that.
I sold my 2017 Honda, (which had none of that) because I wanted to have more safety equipment.
I had zero knowledge of the ins and outs of automotive building delays.
It sounds like you work for a car dealer. I am a woman working in corporate-nothing to do with vehicles.
So maybe YOU knew. I don't know if the average consumer had a clue mid 2021.
We all know now!

You do know the xlt does not have adaptive cruise control right? Lol

 

[HybridOnOrder]

You do know the xlt does not have adaptive cruise control right? Lol

haha! Yes, I do know that, but I actually thought just having lane keeping assist sounded too lame. lol

 

[Tbolt]

Everyone complaining about Ford taking orders...I'll bet Ford had agreements to acquire all the parts of the orders they took, and cut off the ordering window once they were past what they were told would be delivered. How else are they supposed to do it?

I also collect statues. These things are hand painted and take awhile to produce. These companies put them up for order based on when the factory is saying they can have them produced. Occasionally something comes faster than promised. Mostly there are delays of a couple to a few to many months, and in some occasions a year or more. Point is, every manufacturer experiences this and it doesn't seem like too many industries are immune.

 

[999]

Seriously- if the "dealer" could accurately predict the future he or she could retire from the car business and make billions in the stock market.

So how do you expect a dealer to give you an accurate ETA when the company themselves can’t? What’s your point?

 

[999]

You don't KNOW shit. And neither does the dealer. All you do is guess... just like the dealer.

I'd guess it will be more like 4-6 months.

Here's a tip for you....

Past performance is not indicative of future results.

I think we all know at this point the wait for a Mav is roughly a year, give or take.

 

[sbradford26]

UMMMM..."

UMMMM...."You do realize that Ford is only selling what they can deliver. "
GREAT! I am ready for my delivery.
I read about this vehicle actually being a hodgepodge of parts from former ford vehicles, like the steering wheel from here, the pedal from there.....like it basically was a parts bin car. And they cut off the ordering banks when they "reached the point where they no longer had the parts to build more".
With those declarations for what they were putting out publicly, every 2022 should have been built.
I'm not really hammering them for their 'communication' or unforeseen parts constraints and world events.
It's just those are the two things that Ford put out in the world for what they offering. So, if that was factual.....welllll....

You have put in an order for a truck that isn't Ford selling a truck. Ford making a truck and delivering the truck to the dealership is selling a truck. So Ford is 100% selling every vehicle they can deliver. If Ford had to cut off orders once they hit how many parts they physically had they wouldn't have taken any orders. Ford doesn't have parts stocked up, they have orders with suppliers who say they will provide x parts at x time. As those parts arrive trucks are built. Thinking Ford will have all the parts sitting a warehouse sitting ready to build your truck is how you would explain things to children but sadly isn't how the world works.


Storing parts like that is what we have to do sometimes for defense products and it adds significant cost to our production. If Ford did that, they wouldn't be able to sell the maverick at the price point it is now.

 

[HybridOnOrder]

You have put in an order for a truck that isn't Ford selling a truck. Ford making a truck and delivering the truck to the dealership is selling a truck. So Ford is 100% selling every vehicle they can deliver. If Ford had to cut off orders once they hit how many parts they physically had they wouldn't have taken any orders. Ford doesn't have parts stocked up, they have orders with suppliers who say they will provide x parts at x time. As those parts arrive trucks are built. Thinking Ford will have all the parts sitting a warehouse sitting ready to build your truck is how you would explain things to children but sadly isn't how the world works.


Storing parts like that is what we have to do sometimes for defense products and it adds significant cost to our production. If Ford did that, they wouldn't be able to sell the maverick at the price point it is now.

I am familiar with JIT auto manufacturing process, thanks. I was basing what I said on what I've read and this video (below) explaining the parts that are not identical from previous ford models, are basically built right there.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to say something like this?
..."is how you would explain things to children but sadly isn't how the world works."
That comes off as unkind and uncalled for.
Regardless of that, I hope you enjoy your maverick if you have one or that you do when you get one!

 

[Jatrax]

Aren't 2022 buyers that didn't get their car built given first priority?

That is my understanding. I'm not sure how that will work but from what I've read those folks (or their dealer) need to place a MY23 order and then their order date will be adjusted to match their MY22 date. How exactly that will work I have no idea.

Production of any individual vehicle is determined by a complex algorithm that includes the order date but a lot of other stuff such as parts availability, shipping availability, regional and dealer allocations. And probably a lot of other stuff. So it is quite likely that some MY23 new orders will get built before MY22 carry overs.

If my dealer lives up to his word my order will have a placement date of the day the MY23 order banks open. MY22 carry overs should have an earlier date.

 

[jimdouglas]

I’m not defending dealers but I honestly don’t think most of them will know. When I ordered mine in October, even Tim was confident every MY22 would be built by April.

Our dealer is saying “As early as January ‘23 or as late as January ‘24”. That’s being safe!The only used Hybrid I’m aware of a dealer having in our state is a ‘22 with 2,200 miles advertised at $39,995.

 

[xncrman]

Keep complaining folks. Those that don't like it have been fortunate to receive their Maverick and are just mad because your getting dirt on their new carpet.... If they don't like both the good and the bad, then they should leave the forum.

 

[jimdouglas]

I just hope Ford doesn’t solve the demand problem by a huge price increase. One of the dealers is trying to sell a used ‘22 hybrid with 2,200 miles and without a lot of extras for $39,995!

 

[Yvonne Federowicz]

I just hope Ford doesn’t solve the demand problem by a huge price increase. One of the dealers is trying to sell a used ‘22 hybrid with 2,200 miles and without a lot of extras for $39,995!

My area (New England) has a number of Mavericks for sale around that price, with some Lariats pushing $50K.

My dealer, with a straight face, said that his place "has to" charge that much due to low overall inventory and sales.

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