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Hello Everybody,
"Longtime listener-first time caller here"

I preordered a hybrid maverick about as soon as you could from my local dealer and patiently waited the year plus it took to receive due to not wanting to give up features (the spray in bed liner/the co pilot 360).

I have had to have both front axles replaced under warranty around 25k miles, as well as having deep sleep messages looked at last winter and being told that nothing was really wrong and that the "computer updates" that were done during warranty recalls should fix that issue. Well it didn't so I just uninstalled the app from my phone and turned off what features I could from the truck and continued on the rest of the spring.

Fast forward to the summer and I started to get no interior lights in my truck after sitting for a few hours-well that's not good. As well as my touch screen radio freezing requiring a reset several times a week. During the summer my drivers door started squeaking and flexing at the door open stop mechanism. I hate taking my truck to the dealer so I just dealt with it. Well I was nearing the end of my 3 year 36,000 mile warranty and wanted these items addressed so I made an appointment. Thats where the warranty agony started.

They gave me a reminder card that had a date and time on it of a Thursday some time from the initial contact-no big deal. I show up with my vehicle and am told I am a day "early" so I produce the appointment card THEY wrote and it says Thursday....oh ok. They ask if I need a loaner and I ask how long it will take and they think not long to diagnose so I decline the loaner. I wait to hear from them...Finally the next week I stop by the dealer to find out what's going on and I am told that my door has broken welds in it, that there is no current fix for the freezing radio, and that there is a bad BCM causing the deep sleep issue. Did they fix any of it?-NO, Apparently they were having trouble identifying which BCM it was. I say that's fine lets go ahead and get me a Loaner until it can be repaired. They say they will call me with an update on loaner availability as soon as they can-which turned out to be about an hour later explaining to me that they have no current loaners available but my truck is 100% available to drive and is safe so I go pick up my truck. The service manager tells me that they have ordered the BCM and will contact me once it comes in as well as schedule the drivers door broken weld repair with the body shop.

Fast forward several weeks and I finally stop to ask what's going on only to be told that the BCM is in. Hmm why didn't you call me? Well lets schedule that. When is the appointment to repair the door? Oh we never scheduled that. WTF?! When do you expect to schedule that? In about three weeks. Ok I would like a loaner as at this point my truck is sitting at 35.5k miles and by the end of the month I would be over my warranty coverage. I am told that I will be contacted about a loaner. Literally less than 10 minutes after leaving the dealer they call to tell me sorry no loaners. I am getting a bit upset as this was purchased new at this dealership less than two years ago. I escalate to FORD customer care where I am told in the chat logs (Which I can provide to anyone interested in the novel) that once my truck hits 36k all warranty is void even on things that due to scheduling at the dealer were documented before that mileage.\

I am pretty upset at this time so I leave a very negative review for the dealership on Facebook as well as Google. Within the hour of that review going live they reach out to me that they have a brand-new explorer that I can use until my truck is repaired. I drop my truck off and exchange for the Explorer. Over that weekend FORD puts out the Deep Sleep/Battery Drain TSB so the next week I stop by and show the service manager who tells me that we ordered a BCM so its getting it whether it needs it or not! I talk to him about voltage readings (always less then 12v )that I have taken when my interior lights don't work (again I have pics/videos of me checking and load testing the battery-I am a certified Marine Mechanic so testing batts is an everyday job) and I discuss that thread after thread shows a new AGM many times fixes the issue. He says thank you and that they will call me when my truck is ready.

So for the best part of a month Ive driven a brand new Explorer. Ironically enough this week a service engine soon light has came up on it-WTF really? So Today I call to ask how they want me to proceed since the loaner now has a Check engine light. Well my truck came back from paint today. AWESOME! I ask what they did to repair the door and it turns out that they rewelded four spot welds and installed a FORD provided reinforcement kit. I cant remember seeing that "kit" mentioned by anyone on here so I am a bit skeptical. I ask about fixing the freezing screen and there evidently still isn't a fix from ford. I ask about the deep sleep/no interior light issue and am told all they did was replace the BCM and that the battery "tested good". I ask if it still has the issue if they are going to still warranty it-MAYBE. Thats the fing answer-MAYBE!?!

My brother currently works for ford in Cleveland, I have several other family members that do as well but I am pretty sure that this will be the last FORD I spend my money on and that's a shame. All vehicles can and do have issues but it seems like getting FORD to fix anything is like pulling live crocodile teeth. I guess I will just buy my own AGM battery to address the Deep Sleep issue and then start looking for a replacement truck that doesn't need a new battery almost every year, that gets an app that works all the time (as deep sleep locks you out of features-thank God I have a remote start key fob model), that the door welds don't pull apart on due to normal use, that the rear camera and touchscreen don't randomly stop working on. All in all, I am just a fed-up consumer that only wants what I paid for and FORD just doesn't care.
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I know it sucks but my first advice to anyone experience deep sleep issues is replace the battery. dont bother with the headache that ford will put you through and get your own. I bought one from weize. I think $125 is well worth not having to deal with the trips back and forth and potentially being without a vehicle.
 

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Call Ford Customer Service: 800 392 3673.

I had an issue ordering a 2025 Ford Maverick at a dealer. Tried to require ~5000.00 of dealer add ons just to order the truck. Called Ford and registered a complaint. Ford should escalate your issues and get the dealership the info they need to resolve your issues.
 

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Hello Everybody,
"Longtime listener-first time caller here"

I preordered a hybrid maverick about as soon as you could from my local dealer and patiently waited the year plus it took to receive due to not wanting to give up features (the spray in bed liner/the co pilot 360).

I have had to have both front axles replaced under warranty around 25k miles, as well as having deep sleep messages looked at last winter and being told that nothing was really wrong and that the "computer updates" that were done during warranty recalls should fix that issue. Well it didn't so I just uninstalled the app from my phone and turned off what features I could from the truck and continued on the rest of the spring.

Fast forward to the summer and I started to get no interior lights in my truck after sitting for a few hours-well that's not good. As well as my touch screen radio freezing requiring a reset several times a week. During the summer my drivers door started squeaking and flexing at the door open stop mechanism. I hate taking my truck to the dealer so I just dealt with it. Well I was nearing the end of my 3 year 36,000 mile warranty and wanted these items addressed so I made an appointment. Thats where the warranty agony started.

They gave me a reminder card that had a date and time on it of a Thursday some time from the initial contact-no big deal. I show up with my vehicle and am told I am a day "early" so I produce the appointment card THEY wrote and it says Thursday....oh ok. They ask if I need a loaner and I ask how long it will take and they think not long to diagnose so I decline the loaner. I wait to hear from them...Finally the next week I stop by the dealer to find out what's going on and I am told that my door has broken welds in it, that there is no current fix for the freezing radio, and that there is a bad BCM causing the deep sleep issue. Did they fix any of it?-NO, Apparently they were having trouble identifying which BCM it was. I say that's fine lets go ahead and get me a Loaner until it can be repaired. They say they will call me with an update on loaner availability as soon as they can-which turned out to be about an hour later explaining to me that they have no current loaners available but my truck is 100% available to drive and is safe so I go pick up my truck. The service manager tells me that they have ordered the BCM and will contact me once it comes in as well as schedule the drivers door broken weld repair with the body shop.

Fast forward several weeks and I finally stop to ask what's going on only to be told that the BCM is in. Hmm why didn't you call me? Well lets schedule that. When is the appointment to repair the door? Oh we never scheduled that. WTF?! When do you expect to schedule that? In about three weeks. Ok I would like a loaner as at this point my truck is sitting at 35.5k miles and by the end of the month I would be over my warranty coverage. I am told that I will be contacted about a loaner. Literally less than 10 minutes after leaving the dealer they call to tell me sorry no loaners. I am getting a bit upset as this was purchased new at this dealership less than two years ago. I escalate to FORD customer care where I am told in the chat logs (Which I can provide to anyone interested in the novel) that once my truck hits 36k all warranty is void even on things that due to scheduling at the dealer were documented before that mileage.\

I am pretty upset at this time so I leave a very negative review for the dealership on Facebook as well as Google. Within the hour of that review going live they reach out to me that they have a brand-new explorer that I can use until my truck is repaired. I drop my truck off and exchange for the Explorer. Over that weekend FORD puts out the Deep Sleep/Battery Drain TSB so the next week I stop by and show the service manager who tells me that we ordered a BCM so its getting it whether it needs it or not! I talk to him about voltage readings (always less then 12v )that I have taken when my interior lights don't work (again I have pics/videos of me checking and load testing the battery-I am a certified Marine Mechanic so testing batts is an everyday job) and I discuss that thread after thread shows a new AGM many times fixes the issue. He says thank you and that they will call me when my truck is ready.

So for the best part of a month Ive driven a brand new Explorer. Ironically enough this week a service engine soon light has came up on it-WTF really? So Today I call to ask how they want me to proceed since the loaner now has a Check engine light. Well my truck came back from paint today. AWESOME! I ask what they did to repair the door and it turns out that they rewelded four spot welds and installed a FORD provided reinforcement kit. I cant remember seeing that "kit" mentioned by anyone on here so I am a bit skeptical. I ask about fixing the freezing screen and there evidently still isn't a fix from ford. I ask about the deep sleep/no interior light issue and am told all they did was replace the BCM and that the battery "tested good". I ask if it still has the issue if they are going to still warranty it-MAYBE. Thats the fing answer-MAYBE!?!

My brother currently works for ford in Cleveland, I have several other family members that do as well but I am pretty sure that this will be the last FORD I spend my money on and that's a shame. All vehicles can and do have issues but it seems like getting FORD to fix anything is like pulling live crocodile teeth. I guess I will just buy my own AGM battery to address the Deep Sleep issue and then start looking for a replacement truck that doesn't need a new battery almost every year, that gets an app that works all the time (as deep sleep locks you out of features-thank God I have a remote start key fob model), that the door welds don't pull apart on due to normal use, that the rear camera and touchscreen don't randomly stop working on. All in all, I am just a fed-up consumer that only wants what I paid for and FORD just doesn't care.

Sorry to hear you have had all of those issues!!!

I work for a small rural Ford dealer... I deal w/ warranty claims.

It is not true that once you hit 36K that your warranty is void. If the dealer has at least opened a repair order and "confirmed/duplicated" your concern before the 3/36 is up, you should be ok. If there is a parts delay or a few weeks go by before they can get you in for service, they can still do the repair under warranty.

Now, I have heard of cases where the customer just "ignored" the problem and didn't bring it back in for service until a months and thousands of miles later..... that won't be acceptable. I've also heard people claim that they just "notified" the dealer that they are having X Y or Z issue. That also isn't good enough.

But if the dealer can confirm and diagnose your issue before 3/36 ends, it is ok if the actual repair takes place after this (in a reasonable time frame).

I have seen people say on here that AGM battery may help solve the problem. Ford will not pay for a different battery than WSM calls for. So if you want battery replaced under warranty, it will be the same battery again.

I haven't heard of any Mavericks having those door problems...but there is a recall for the newer Escapes with a similar issue. That recall does involve adding a reinforcement kit to the door welds, so it sounds like they may have "borrowed" that procedure to help your issue?
 

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Sorry to hear you have had all of those issues!!!

I work for a small rural Ford dealer... I deal w/ warranty claims.

It is not true that once you hit 36K that your warranty is void. If the dealer has at least opened a repair order and "confirmed/duplicated" your concern before the 3/36 is up, you should be ok. If there is a parts delay or a few weeks go by before they can get you in for service, they can still do the repair under warranty.

Now, I have heard of cases where the customer just "ignored" the problem and didn't bring it back in for service until a months and thousands of miles later..... that won't be acceptable. I've also heard people claim that they just "notified" the dealer that they are having X Y or Z issue. That also isn't good enough.

But if the dealer can confirm and diagnose your issue before 3/36 ends, it is ok if the actual repair takes place after this (in a reasonable time frame).

I have seen people say on here that AGM battery may help solve the problem. Ford will not pay for a different battery than WSM calls for. So if you want battery replaced under warranty, it will be the same battery again.

I haven't heard of any Mavericks having those door problems...but there is a recall for the newer Escapes with a similar issue. That recall does involve adding a reinforcement kit to the door welds, so it sounds like they may have "borrowed" that procedure to help your issue?
Here is the "official" response FORD Customer Service Rep Arianna gave me:


Will FORD still honor the repairs that are needed if it bubbles past that 36k?



Customer - 11/6/2024, 11:40 AM



Bot C1 said: Excellent question! If there is no coverage under applicable warranties, recalls, or ESPs, repairs and services would be your responsibility. You may also reach out to your servicing dealership to see if they may have any alternative resolutions for the concern.

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Bot C1 said:

Excellent question! If there is no coverage under applicable warranties, recalls, or ESPs, repairs and services would be your responsibility. You may also reach out to your servicing dealership to see if they may have any alternative resolutions for the concern.



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I'm not sure when free loaner cars became an expectation. I guess that's the only thing that might possibly motivate dealers with piss-poor service departments.
 
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I'm not sure when free loaner cars became an expectation. I guess that's the only thing that might possibly motivate dealers with piss-poor service departments.
It was essentially TWO months from initial scheduling of the warranty appointment until pick up of the vehicle where some items couldn't even be addressed due to FORD not having a repair available. Without a loaner after the dealer failed to schedule the follow up appointments, I would have been far outside my 3year/36K warranty. Ford quality is definitely trending in the wrong direction-heck I just saw they were fined 165M- yes MILLION with a M, for failing to provide accurate and complete information regarding recalls as well as acting too slowly to repair vehicles. IE they lied to the regulatory body trying to cover their own butts and save money. Way of the world I guess but sucks none the less. I ordered the AGM battery for my truck today and just decided it isn't worth the headache anymore to deal with the dealer.
 
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FORD has become a synonym for FUBAR.

The Maverick was my first Ford. It is also my last Ford. When the warranty is up, I will just sell it or trade it for my fourth Toyota. I kept my 2017 RAV4 just in case the Ford doesn't make it to 36,000.
 
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Well the saga continues. I went to pick up my truck and exchange the loaner Explorer and my sales guy was there, who by the way is awesome and is quit literally the ONLY reason I deal with this dealership. He apologizes for the ordeal and lets me know that he had the truck cleaned and detailed today-awesome!

He and I chit chatted for a few minutes and they brought me my keys. I talked to the sales manager about purchasing an extended service plan and what it does/doesn't cover and overall costs.

At this point I walk out on the lot with my sales guy and when he opens the door the interior lights don't turn on! He tries getting out/in a few times and still no interior lights....mind you the truck was supposedly driven just hours ago today many miles from a body shop to here. My sales guy gets the service manager who gives me a stupid look and says I guess we will have to schedule that repair work again! I ask why they didn't replace the battery and even ask him to check the battery right now while its sitting on their lot supposedly "Fixed" with a new BCM that required two new keys evidently. He says all the techs are gone and he doesn't have a multi-meter he can use to even look at the voltage.

This is where I have to say "BUT WAIT THERES MORE!"

I inspect the door repair and ask him why they didn't replace it like was originally planned on the warranty paperwork/estimate I was provided. He tells me it only needed a door reinforcement kit installed and respray. So I look at the door stop and there are now pop rivets in my door. Also the door panel is not seated and the upper triangle is 1/4" off the door frame. He smacks it once and it doesn't move so he says the tech must have missed seating it when they reassembled the door. When can you bring it back in to fix that?! I am here right now to pick up my supposedly repaired under warranty truck and ended up getting it back in worst shape then I took it in!

The icing on the cake was on the drive home I found scratches across my gauge cluster that will require me to plastic polish/buff out at best case scenario.

This truck would be great and meet all my needs but the downtime and poor craftmanship has been pretty disappointing. Combine that with an inept dealer at this point and I am at a loss as to what to do.
 

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The Ford dealerships in my area seem to focus on sales and general maintenance work. For any warranty work, they all claim at least four to six weeks out just to diagnose or inspect the issue. This really cheapens the value of the warranty and greatly damages the brand. I have no major negative issues with the truck, but if Ford can't figure out a better way to honor their warranties, I'll likely move to Toyota or Lexus in the future. My AC is showing low refrigerant - it either has a leak, or was underfilled from the factory. One dealership said it would be 10 weeks before they could look at it. Another said 8 weeks. If I drove it in tomorrow and asked to get my AC charged outside of warranty work, I could probably get it the same day. What gives?
 
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The Ford dealerships in my area seem to focus on sales and general maintenance work. For any warranty work, they all claim at least four to six weeks out just to diagnose or inspect the issue. This really cheapens the value of the warranty and greatly damages the brand. I have no major negative issues with the truck, but if Ford can't figure out a better way to honor their warranties, I'll likely move to Toyota or Lexus in the future. My AC is showing low refrigerant - it either has a leak, or was underfilled from the factory. One dealership said it would be 10 weeks before they could look at it. Another said 8 weeks. If I drove it in tomorrow and asked to get my AC charged outside of warranty work, I could probably get it the same day. What gives?
Exactly! This shoddy workmanship and poor follow up work from the dealer just reinforces that all that matters today to FORD and its dealers is the original sale and then whatever "EASY" work, oil changes/tires/etc comes after. This is gut wrenching. I can not explain to you how sick to my stomach I was standing there with my wife, sales guy, and service manager dumbfounded that they didn't do any part of the repair correctly. In an effort to help fellow forum members I would not recommend Valley FORD here in Ohio.
 

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OP, I'm interested in your door problems. My driver's door has started to make a "snicking" or "snapping" sound when I open it to full extension. I visually inspected the A Pillar attachment and it's good. The noise is coming from inside the door itself. Can't see in there. I figured a loose bolt, but your weld description is a possibility too.

Edit - the sound doesn't really bother me, and I don't plan to have it looked at. But it's new, appearing around the 27,000 mile point. So it just has my idle interest. If the door falls off, now that I'll have them look at.
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