Hybrid or Eco boost

[swtiming8]

I have to make a decision in the next few weeks. I presently have a 22 Maverick Eco AWD that I bought from a dealer and I’m at around 5k miles. My production date is early July for a 23 Hybrid and I’m not sure if I will sell the 22 and buy the hybrid. With all the negative posts about the issues with the Hybrid I’m not sure I’m going to make the right decision. Can any hybrid owners let me know what their experience are…

I have only had my hybrid for a few weeks and this is my first hybrid ever. With that said I have had zero issues Ford made sure if there were any recalls they were taken care of them at the factory so no delays once the vehicle hit the dealership.

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[Blueskies]

Thanks

 

[vap0rtranz]

My other car is a '14 Volt (which I also like very much).

This made me miss my '12 Volt Fun little car, cheap, and despite what naysays said the Volt didn't blow up. (Actually I had 0 issues with my Volt. My Mav ... it's CEL has been lit for 5 months now but Ford says "no biggie".)

I agree that AWD is overrated ... 4x4 in my Chevy Colorado has come in handy a few times.

With all the negative posts about the issues with the Hybrid I’m not sure I’m going to make the right decision. Can any hybrid owners let me know what their experience are…

I still drive my Hybrid Mav. Here's a few things I've noticed in forums:

• forums are full of "it's broke" posts and less posts saying "it's great!". In other words there's bias in forums to factor in.
• for all the "issues" with the Hybrid, how many have left an owner stranded? I can count 2 who posted clear details on this forum, and 1 of those was an owner who wants Ford to do a lemon buyback (aka. their Hybrid actually still runs).
• my Hybrid has had "issues" and has never stranded me anywhere - perhaps that's worth a grain of salt

 

[BuddyS]

Zero problems with my Hybrid. You can scare yourself silly googling "Ecoboost issues", too - and for what it's worth they all seem to show up a few years down the line. But those fears are overblown as well -- if Ford's problems with either were as severe as the internet fear mongers make them out to be there'd be crowds with pitchforks and torches swarming every Ford dealer in the nation. And do't forget, both trucks come with a warranty. If anything breaks or proves to be a legit liability, they'll fix it.

 

[Nashuajp]

Check out this video. It may help ?

 

[MaverRick]

Check out this video. It may help ?

I like how he finally called it a Truck at the end of the video! I am happy with my Truck after a year now. My Wife has a PHEV so for our local driving which is under 40 miles per day we don’t burn any gas! We use the Maverick more for the trips of over 100 miles per day. On the highway it’s as good for Mpg as her car is. Coming from a Dodge Ram which I had for 19 years its nice to have a smaller Truck that will easily fit in my garage and still do most of the jobs that the Ram can do!!

 

[Kingfish]

Hybrid owner for almost one year and 10k miles.

As another member said, there isn't a bad choice so please don't stress. I know a lot of posts and comments are nearly religious in their devotion to either EB or Hybrid, but the reality is that you'll either end up with an awesome truck or an awesome truck.

I've enjoyed my hybrid because:

• 20%ish better gas mileage (lower gas cost, a little less carbon exhaust, less money to the gas industry)
• Instant and smooth exploration

I also like the idea of fewer moving parts and less maintainence (from what I've read. I'm not an engine guy so verify this for yourself).

Overall I've had no issues and have loved the truck.

I would buy a EB in a heartbeat if:

• Ford raised the $ any more (the payback of $1,500 is already many years for most drivers)
• I needed AWD or more towing. I don't think most drivers need AWD. I don't need more towing yet.

I truly believe the differences between the two are very slim, unless you need flat towing (hybrid) or AWD or 4k towing (EB).

If someone told me I could only get an EB or only get a Hybrid, I wouldn't skip a beat. As long as they don't make me buy a giant truck to get a bed!

 

[MetalThunder]

This made me miss my '12 Volt Fun little car, cheap, and despite what naysays said the Volt didn't blow up. (Actually I had 0 issues with my Volt. My Mav ... it's CEL has been lit for 5 months now but Ford says "no biggie".)

I agree that AWD is overrated ... 4x4 in my Chevy Colorado has come in handy a few times.



I still drive my Hybrid Mav. Here's a few things I've noticed in forums:

• forums are full of "it's broke" posts and less posts saying "it's great!". In other words there's bias in forums to factor in.
• for all the "issues" with the Hybrid, how many have left an owner stranded? I can count 2 who posted clear details on this forum, and 1 of those was an owner who wants Ford to do a lemon buyback (aka. their Hybrid actually still runs).
• my Hybrid has had "issues" and has never stranded me anywhere - perhaps that's worth a grain of salt

AWD is overated until you need it. Not everyone needs it.

The slip FWD leaves you with one wheel drive - in my circumstance I've gotten stuck in my drive during snow/ice storms with every front wheel car I've had (Hondas) - Wife has had the AWD's and never gotten stuck. So that little bit of comfort of not worrying about it - shoveling out and paying for a plow) during one season drove my decision over any MPG savings. Now if it never snowed again - still love the stability of this awd Maverick on loose gravel sells me . Until They change the drive system on the Hybrid I'm sticking with the turbo recycled dinosaur juice burning version never will have a FWD vehicle of any kind on my radar...

Cheers

 

[Gray Goose]

Another consideration is how long you plan to keep the vehicle. Expected battery life is about 100K. Warranty is set at 8 yrs 100K.
https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/how-long-do-hybrid-batteries-last
I run vehicles for 15-20 years. The major reason I went with EB rather than Hybrid.

 

[Houndmav]

Another consideration is how long you plan to keep the vehicle. Expected battery life is about 100K. Warranty is set at 8 yrs 100K.
https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/how-long-do-hybrid-batteries-last
I run vehicles for 15-20 years. The major reason I went with EB rather than Hybrid.

To be fair at 10 years you’d be lucky not to replace some major components on a EB engine/transmission. Known head gasket issues, wear components on turbos, Egr components, Direct injection components (and carbon build up)

in 10 years the battery is likely going to be a cheaper fix. Definitely easier to fix. You can by remain batteries for older Prius’s cheaper then paying someone to rebuild any EB motor.
But hey it’s a give and take

 

[Gray Goose]

To be fair at 10 years you’d be lucky not to replace some major components on a EB engine/transmission. Known head gasket issues, wear components on turbos, Egr components, Direct injection components (and carbon build up)

in 10 years the battery is likely going to be a cheaper fix. Definitely easier to fix. You can by remain batteries for older Prius’s cheaper then paying someone to rebuild any EB motor.
But hey it’s a give and take

Yes I am concerned with those issues. If there was an option for non-turbo, non-hybrid, I would choose that. Choosing lesser of 2 bad options IMHO.

 

[Gschaef]

If you drive less than 5,000 miles a year or mostly highway miles then the hybrid may not be worth it. If you mostly drive highway miles then the difference in gas savings between hybrid and EB may be insignificant. Don’t get caught up in paralysis by analysis. Get what you want that meets your needs.

I have a 22 hybrid that I bought on impulse and I regret it and have found I prefer a gas engine. I have a 24 EB on order. I will trade in the hybrid the day the EB gets delivered. I don’t drive that much anymore and the savings in gas isn’t a factor. I really like the Mav, just not the hybrid. I have had to take it to the dealership 5 times in the last 7 weeks. Not all trips were hybrid related but there is still the hood fire recall that won’t be addressed until December and I just don’t trust the vehicle anymore. Luck of the draw. Hope you end up with a straight flush

 

[Houndmav]

Yes I am concerned with those issues. If there was an option for non-turbo, non-hybrid, I would choose that. Choosing lesser of 2 bad options IMHO.

I agree with you. I wish we could bring back simple ICE motors.

 

[Ford Maverick Maniac]

Hybrid owner for almost one year and 10k miles.

As another member said, there isn't a bad choice so please don't stress. I know a lot of posts and comments are nearly religious in their devotion to either EB or Hybrid, but the reality is that you'll either end up with an awesome truck or an awesome truck.

I've enjoyed my hybrid because:

• 20%ish better gas mileage (lower gas cost, a little less carbon exhaust, less money to the gas industry)
• Instant and smooth exploration

I also like the idea of fewer moving parts and less maintainence (from what I've read. I'm not an engine guy so verify this for yourself).

Overall I've had no issues and have loved the truck.

I would buy a EB in a heartbeat if:

• Ford raised the $ any more (the payback of $1,500 is already many years for most drivers)
• I needed AWD or more towing. I don't think most drivers need AWD. I don't need more towing yet.

I truly believe the differences between the two are very slim, unless you need flat towing (hybrid) or AWD or 4k towing (EB).

If someone told me I could only get an EB or only get a Hybrid, I wouldn't skip a beat. As long as they don't make me buy a giant truck to get a bed!

Mr Kingfish Robert - I agree with you! Per this video I posted, the avg driver of 15,000 miles will spend $67 more per month for a Mav AWD according to fueleconomy.gov, the entity that shows fuel consumption on all window stickers.

$1500 extra hybrid cost divided by $67 in hybrid fuel savings vs AWD = 22 months to recover the extra cost of buying a hybrid version.

If they pay another $5k ADM from a dealer just to get a hybrid:
$1500 + $5,000 = $6500 / $67 in fuel savings per month = 8 years to recover the extra cost vs buying an AWD at msrp.

You will have so much more fun vs the slow off the line hybrid. Add 4k tow even if you do not tow and the extra torque will make your Mav more like a race truck. Get a tune to over 300HP once the warranty is up and you will have a rally truck! You can't tune the hybrid motor.

Plus, you will get to more places in mud, snow, and washed out dirt roads in an AWD Mav.

No matter what people say about snow tires on a FWD, they will get stopped at chain control. With this huge snow year in Park City, even with our stock Conti tires, we never had to put chains on once.

 

[AutobahnSHO]

Super happy hybrid owner here

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