how to remove telemetric control module

[Geep]

I just gotta ask…..what the hell are you guys up to?

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[999]

This is a great idea.

I would also like to disconnect the "telemetric control module" for privacy!
But what about my cell phone? Can that be tracked too?
Any ideas for avoiding traffic cameras and toll roads?

 

[mavmav]

One more benefit! Battery is not draining as fest when you leave it for a week

 

[mavmav]

100BaseT1 Ethernet

where i can find more information on telemetric module? any research papers, modifications ?

 

[mla_anderson]

where i can find more information on telemetric module? any research papers, modifications ?

On the telemetric module? That will be closely guarded by Ford or their ECU design house. It’s a black box without the design files.

 

[wax87]

Currently poking around here...

https://www.commercialsolutions.ford.com/hardware/

I don't see anything Maverick specific, though.

would that void any warranty?

 

[Jman79]

What about a switch piggy backed on the fuse? This way we can turn on and off as we desire. In the car = off, out of the car = on, so you can still remote start etc.

This could be a flawed tactic if the current programming caches data until it's about send. How much of a cache would exist . One might be able to seduce this with what info is available via Ford pass and some trial and error.

All theoretical here, I don't have a truck yet.

 

[todd92]

It's telematics, not telemetrics.

 

[Skyline]

what’s up guys just got the maverick XL awd .. i want to remove the telemetric control module . i already removed the fuse from the fuse box on the floor board. but does anyone no the location of the actual telemetric module. any info would be greatly appreciated.

The best description for disabling the Telemetry Control Module (TMC) is right here in the Maverick Truck Club. The post confirm that the TMC is behind the dashboard, also states removing fuse #11. Quote from the referenced link:

On a Maverick, you can pull fuse 11 from the fuse panel under the glovebox. This powers off the 'telematics control module' and stops the tracking. Additionally, if you have the dash apart you can unplug the TCM completely, It is a free standing module with no co-dependencies. Somewhere in Ford land, there is a group of engineers that understand the pure evil of this these tracking / monetization policies and intentionally made it easy to disable the TCM. Kudos to them for doing the right thing.

Signed,
Someone who has worked in this area and who is co-author on two patents in the Internet security area.

I am also someone who has worked in this area for too long. The surveillance so wide spread that it is astonishing; this quote summarizes where we are:

Surveillance capitalism transferred the digital infrastructure from what we have to a thing that has us.

That does not mean we need to go along with it, of course I've pulled fuse 11 and will disconnect/remove the TCM the first chance I'll get. It's just principal form me, control what you can.

PS: It isn't just Ford, any new car will have the same/similar TCM, some more invasive than other...

 

[SuperDave71]

What about a switch piggy backed on the fuse? This way we can turn on and off as we desire. In the car = off, out of the car = on, so you can still remote start etc.

This could be a flawed tactic if the current programming caches data until it's about send. How much of a cache would exist . One might be able to seduce this with what info is available via Ford pass and some trial and error.

All theoretical here, I don't have a truck yet.

I’ve never really considered because I like the convenience of the FordPass app, but this has merit. It could easily be accomplished using a relay with power to the module passing through the NC contact. Pull in the relay coil when the vehicle is on, which disconnects power to the module. When you shut off the engine the module powers on.

 

[Aherpa]

Im glad the guy with the dickish reply deleted his post (or the mods did). I too would like an answer to this question, and it is completely legitimate to value one's privacy, or to set certain limits as to how much they are willing to share and what corporations they are willing to share it with.

One of the things I like about this forum is that people are sharing what they are doing with their trucks. I might not be interested in doing the same thing, but it keeps things interesting.

Like my home computer, I have all automatic updates turned off on my Maverick. . . if the truck is going to start acting funny, I don't want the answer to be 'it was an automatic update that got pushed to the truck and it had a glitch in it'. Glitches happen but I'd like to be able to minimize the variables involved in troubleshooting issues.
Having the ability to turn on/off those features is appreciated by me if not for the privacy of it, then certainly from a deliberate maintenance point of view.

Thanks

 

[Jman79]

One of the things I like about this forum is that people are sharing what they are doing with their trucks. I might not be interested in doing the same thing, but it keeps things interesting.

Like my home computer, I have all automatic updates turned off on my Maverick. . . if the truck is going to start acting funny, I don't want the answer to be 'it was an automatic update that got pushed to the truck and it had a glitch in it'. Glitches happen but I'd like to be able to minimize the variables involved in troubleshooting issues.
Having the ability to turn on/off those features is appreciated by me if not for the privacy of it, then certainly from a deliberate maintenance point of view.

Thanks

Probably A good idea. I do this with my phones and major version changes, I research updates before letting them run. Occasionally you get an "oops" update and are stuck with a buggy version until they realize and release a fix. Skips dinner heart ache.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

...I do this with my phones...

I do the same thing. And if it's an app with iffy reviews, I save a copy of the older version so I can revert back to it if the new version is buggy or lacking features previously present.

 

[Jman79]

I do the same thing. And if it's an app with iffy reviews, I save a copy of the older version so I can revert back to it if the new version is buggy or lacking features previously present.

I’ve never really considered because I like the convenience of the FordPass app, but this has merit. It could easily be accomplished using a relay with power to the module passing through the NC contact. Pull in the relay coil when the vehicle is on, which disconnects power to the module. When you shut off the engine the module powers on.

I like this thread! Lots of technical minds sharing in a positive way . Iterating on each other's contributions.

I thought briefly though of an automated switch but capped my thoughts at manual. Here you are filling in the gaps without being asked!

When I take delivery I'll try to prove out the caching aspect. I will have to familiarize myself with what data I can see if collected / accessible through the app or web. I don't mind data collection in exchange for free features. However, I like to have clear understanding and control of it.

The way companies go about defaulting consent and hiding it in fine print of the 20 page legaleez user agreements should quite frankly be illegal.

 

[colinl]

Probably A good idea. I do this with my phones and major version changes, I research updates before letting them run. Occasionally you get an "oops" update and are stuck with a buggy version until they realize and release a fix. Skips dinner heart ache.

it's a terrible idea to skip security updates on your computing devices and smartphones unless you never connect them to the internet.

the security updates are there for a reason. just because some vendors have poor testing and deployment practices doesn't mean that it's a good idea to just skip the updates.

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