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This looks really great, I love how the relatively high bed line of the Maverick almost makes the lowered truck looks like it has a chopped top. Even though mine is a leased truck for my side business I can't wait to see what people continue to do with these.
 

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I've got 8.5" wide wheels with a +43 ET. These Mavericks seem to have plenty of inner clearance, if that's where your concern is.
Definitely my concern. The wheel calculator says that ET brings the wheel in 29mm.
 
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Curious, maybe I missed something. But if the stock wheel is 7in. wide with an ET of 37, how did you fit an 8.5 wide wheel with a higher ET? Truck looks great btw.
ET is relative to width. 7 inch wheel with 0 ET has 3.5 inches in (towards suspension) and 3.5 inches out (towards fender). 37 mm is approximately 1 7/16" taken away from outside and moved to the inside. So the stock wheel has 4 15/16 inside and 2 1/16 outside. The stock wheel on the truck has more than 2 inches from the inside edge of the wheel/tire combo to the strut. 8.5 inch wheel is 3/4 inches more inside and outside if it has 37 offset. 45 is 8mm more than stock or 5/16. This makes the 8.5 ET 45 7/16 wider toward the outside than stock and 1 1/16 toward the inside which still leaves about an inch of clearance to the strut. See the image below. This is unusual with most cars and trucks. Most have to move the extra width towards the fender because they have very little room between the tire/wheel and strut. The further out the edge of the tire is the greater the arc of the outside tread corner and potential contact with the liner.

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My springs should be here in a couple days, so I was considering getting Escape struts to maybe prevent the loose spring issue and gain more drop. Saturday I went out to the dealer and measured an Escape strut. The spring top cap to the seat, spring seat to the mounting "clamp", bolt holes and roll bar links are all the same lengths. Maybe they engineered the Maverick spring the exact length/thickness to match the Escape height lol. After searching the interwebs about h&r spring installations it seems to be common for them to be loose.

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Escape is same vehicle underneath. Theres no reason to believe the springs, struts, etc would be any fifferent
 

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Is there any issues still using the stock shocks? No issues bottoming out?
 
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There may some problem with the lifespan of the shocks utilizing a different part of the stroke but I haven't experienced any bottoming or unusual handling. Occasionally the front springs will "boing" after the suspension has been completely unloaded (jacking etc) but I usually just put the jack under the suspension and that eliminates the problem.
 

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Right on man, im guessing you have had no issues with rubbing at full lock? Just want to cover all my grounds before i order parts.
 
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No rubbing at all and my tires are 30" diameter. closer to stock should have absolutely no problems.
 

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Wow, I like all of this a lot more than I thought I would. Nice work!
 

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Hell yeah man thanks for the feed back i have some ideas in mind i think you guys will like.
 

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Yes, 2.5" Flowmaster 44 with black tip through a 4" fender exit bezel. It's not loud at all but I can tell it's running now.

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Finally got in my Maverick! Now that I had a good look at it I was wandering a bit more about your exhaust set up. What did you do with the bumper brackets around where the exhaust exit's? And are you running a single muffler or do you still have a resonator + muffler setup?
 
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It's really hard to tell what this picture is, but I was trying to show the bracket. I saved the side closest to the middle of the bumper and trimmed away clearance around the tip. I orginally saved both sides but one was so thin I cut it off. Now it is second cat delete with resonator and then muffler and tip.

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Just finished installing some Escape lowering springs. They lowered about 2 and 2.5. I'll get some daytime pics this weekend. BTW the Escape 14mm camber bolts are also a go.

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Part description and #:
Escape springs '20 to '22, AWD. Part # 28633-1

The ride is only slightly more firm than stock. The wheels are 20x8.5 et45 with 255/50. They did not rub before and so far I don't think they are rubbing now. I did have to add a 1/2 spacer above the rear spring seat to get the stance the way I wanted it. The springs the way they came made it perfectly level. 32" ground to fender on all four. So now it's 32 on the front and 32 1/2 in the back.


I took my stock steel wheels off at 38 miles and sold 3 as spares to members here, so I don't know what stock ride is like. The small amount of extra firmness is relative to the springs only. It's not annoying, but in hyper check out mode I noticed it.


Not on the bottom of the spring, on the top. The bottom (plastic & rubber) perch has a pin to prevent rotation around the raised metal part of the spring perch. The top metal perch is a bit longer than an inch and only has a rubber isolator. I had an old nylon cutting board I cut using the rubber isolator as a pattern and snapped it over the bulge on the upper metal spring perch. The stock springs are wound in opposite directions. The H&R springs are wound in the same direction. The upper isolators are symmetrical. So the drivers side went right in and the top of the passenger side, but I had to modify the passenger rubber isolator. I used a small grinding bit in a drill to remove a hump and shape the isolator for a spring wound opposite. I could have just bought a driver side lower perch but the pin would have been in the wrong place.
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Escape springs '20 to '22, AWD 28633-1


Yes, I had it all together and drove it a couple of miles and decided to come up with a plan to make the rear just slightly higher. The track width of the front and rear of the maverick are different and the rear looks lower when it's exactly the same height.


I usually do my own alignment. The lowering didn't really affect anything, but I didn't measure it before I started adjusting. I set the front camber -1, rear camber -.8, rear toe 1/8" in, front toe 1/8" out and left the caster alone. I will drive it a while and see how I like it. Make any adjustments. Then take it to a shop and have it confirmed and equal it out if there are any differences side to side.


3m flat black vinyl


I just used photo editor to lighten the picture because "puts black wheels on and takes picture at night"
I'll get some daytime pictures.

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Yes, 2.5" Flowmaster 44 with black tip through a 4" fender exit bezel. It's not loud at all but I can tell it's running now.

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Just finished installing some Escape lowering springs. They lowered about 2 and 2.5. I'll get some daytime pics this weekend. BTW the Escape 14mm camber bolts are also a go.

Update w/ more info and Q&A:

Part description and #:
Escape springs '20 to '22, AWD. Part # 28633-1

The ride is only slightly more firm than stock. The wheels are 20x8.5 et45 with 255/50. They did not rub before and so far I don't think they are rubbing now. I did have to add a 1/2 spacer above the rear spring seat to get the stance the way I wanted it. The springs the way they came made it perfectly level. 32" ground to fender on all four. So now it's 32 on the front and 32 1/2 in the back.


I took my stock steel wheels off at 38 miles and sold 3 as spares to members here, so I don't know what stock ride is like. The small amount of extra firmness is relative to the springs only. It's not annoying, but in hyper check out mode I noticed it.


Not on the bottom of the spring, on the top. The bottom (plastic & rubber) perch has a pin to prevent rotation around the raised metal part of the spring perch. The top metal perch is a bit longer than an inch and only has a rubber isolator. I had an old nylon cutting board I cut using the rubber isolator as a pattern and snapped it over the bulge on the upper metal spring perch. The stock springs are wound in opposite directions. The H&R springs are wound in the same direction. The upper isolators are symmetrical. So the drivers side went right in and the top of the passenger side, but I had to modify the passenger rubber isolator. I used a small grinding bit in a drill to remove a hump and shape the isolator for a spring wound opposite. I could have just bought a driver side lower perch but the pin would have been in the wrong place.
frame
nylon spacer
rubber isolator
spring
rubber isolator
plastic perch
lower control arm


Escape springs '20 to '22, AWD 28633-1


Yes, I had it all together and drove it a couple of miles and decided to come up with a plan to make the rear just slightly higher. The track width of the front and rear of the maverick are different and the rear looks lower when it's exactly the same height.


I usually do my own alignment. The lowering didn't really affect anything, but I didn't measure it before I started adjusting. I set the front camber -1, rear camber -.8, rear toe 1/8" in, front toe 1/8" out and left the caster alone. I will drive it a while and see how I like it. Make any adjustments. Then take it to a shop and have it confirmed and equal it out if there are any differences side to side.


3m flat black vinyl


I just used photo editor to lighten the picture because "puts black wheels on and takes picture at night"
I'll get some daytime pictures.

20220114_184745 (3).jpg


20220114_184806 (3).jpg



20220115_124337-jpg.jpg



20220115_124322-jpg.jpg



20220115_124419-2-jpg.jpg



20220115_124427-2-jpg.jpg



20220115_124404-2-jpg.jpg



20220115_124436-2-jpg.jpg



20220115_124510-jpg.jpg







Yes, 2.5" Flowmaster 44 with black tip through a 4" fender exit bezel. It's not loud at all but I can tell it's running now.

20220115_124236.jpg


20220115_124304.jpg

 

 
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