Frequent problems?

[Ktowntimmy]

Is it my imagination or do the higher trims (Lariat and XLT) have more problems? Obviously, with more whistles and bells, there are more things that CAN go wrong, and Murphy’s Law applies. Maybe there were just more upper trim level trucks sold, therefore there will be more issues with those trims?

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[K5Blazer]

I think so.
High end, well equipped cars usually have more reported problems, especially electrical.

 

[MaveRichard]

I’m sure this will happen more as the vehicle ages but overall these are simple vehicles even at the highest trim levels. Comparatively to the overall market.

At this point most of the problems people are having are manufacturing and quality related.

The only real differences between my XLT lux and an XL are the heated seats and steering wheel.

 

[S. fisher]

Heated seats are standard equipment on other manufacturers mid grade trims. Unfortunate that ford didn’t allow for it to be sold as a standalone option on the xl and XLT.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

I think so.
High end, well equipped cars usually have more reported problems, especially electrical.

In addition to more crap to go wrong, higher end car owners are probably more picky about little things not being absolutely perfect. Things that a base model (e.g. XL) buyer might be more tolerant of.

 

[2023AWD]

My 2023 has about 1,000 miles now. The only issue so far, is that the ‘tire pressure sensor’ problem pops up on the dash. I went by the service dept and the guy says he can’t do anything because the light was out when I got there….makes sense.
Anyway, since the tires are fine, I’ll just have to wait until the warning stays on until I can bring it in? Not a biggie for me.

 

[KeithVi]

My understanding is that there are far more XLTs and Lariat models than XLs. So it stands to reason that you are going to see more of those model trucks with issues.

jmho

 

[RLmesc]

Heated seats are standard equipment on other manufacturers mid grade trims. Unfortunate that ford didn’t allow for it to be sold as a standalone option on the xl and XLT.

Heated seats, steering wheel, mirrors, rear window defroster and remote start should be marketed as a cold weather package but sold ala cart. Southern folks may need these a few days whereas us northerners need them daily for months.

 

[Tim d]

Is it my imagination or do the higher trims (Lariat and XLT) have more problems? Obviously, with more whistles and bells, there are more things that CAN go wrong, and Murphy’s Law applies. Maybe there were just more upper trim level trucks sold, therefore there will be more issues with those trims?

I personally haven't noticed probs with the higher trim levels, but, have noticed on this forum more problems with the hybrid than ecoboost.

 

[everdrive]

Is it my imagination or do the higher trims (Lariat and XLT) have more problems? Obviously, with more whistles and bells, there are more things that CAN go wrong, and Murphy’s Law applies. Maybe there were just more upper trim level trucks sold, therefore there will be more issues with those trims?

We simply lack enough information to know. There's a bunch of stuff which might go into this:

- What percentage of Mavericks are sold at what trims? ie, if more people are buying Lariats and XLTs, then all things being equal we'd expect more issues to pop up on the higher-end trucks.

- Do Lariat owners fret more about small issues? Are they less capable of handling maintenance and technical issues? I honestly doubt this, but the point is that we have insufficient information to know if there are distinguishing characteristics which apply to Lariat vs. XL buyers.

- Does ford produce Lariats, XLTs, and XLs on the same production lines with the same shifts and the same workers? Maybe someone on this forum knows, but it could be the case that one plant / production line / shift of workers is superior to the others. This is information that I don't have.

- Are the "problems" people are encountering related to the electronic features which are no present in the XL models? The XLs have a lot of electronics on their own (like all cars these days) so I might personally doubt this. However, I don't have a clear breakdown on what issues are occurring with Mavericks. But for example, it's easy to imagine a theoretical breakdown of issues with percentage failure for different things: PTU, touchscreen, sensors for lane departure / auto braking, etc. If we had that information, it'd be possible to say "we're seeing the highest percentage of problems with feature _X_, which mostly applies to Lariat models." My understanding is that we just don't have clear stats regarding component failure.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

Heated seats, steering wheel, mirrors, rear window defroster and remote start should be marketed as a cold weather package but sold ala cart. Southern folks may need these a few days whereas us northerners need them daily for months.

Remote start is used frequently for A/C down here. It should be à la carte, though.

 

[Red454]

Since I keep vehicles until the wheels fall off, I typically go with the bare-bones models since I am the chump that will have to deal with whatever fails in the future. By that point the vehicle isn't worth fixing and isn't worth much for trade, so I practically give it away. However, being close to retirement I probably should have gone with the XLT (rather than the XL). One reason for the XL is that I was under the impression that being the base model (no extras) would get me a better chance of an "early" build, if that makes sense.

 

[Fcnrwy]

Heated seats, steering wheel, mirrors, rear window defroster and remote start.

LOL
I have never had any of these.. "Luxuries" in any of my vehicles...
And I survived! Here in Wisconsin!

Jerry

 

[srhawg]

I have what I call a basic Lariat model, no lux or any other electronic add on's. 12,000 miles no problems other than recalls.

 

[BlueOval1954]

Here in the Midwest heated seats, steering wheel, mirrors and rear window defroster are a game changer. Remote start, ah I hardly use it. Can I get a refund ?

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