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That is probably decades away. 2 Chinese auto makers just up'd the old ICe efficiency of gas.
Agree it may take decades before ICE vehicles become as rare as horses were on 1930’s highways. But the transition has already begun. Like I said in a previous post - Toyota has already eliminated the ICE only option on 2 of its most popular models. Many other companies have done the same.

As far as ICE becoming more efficient & clean - most research is being aimed at the EV’s. Interesting that China has not given up. Maybe they’ll bring back bicycles as their main transportation vehicle:)

Maybe some other technology will overtake the EV? Hydrogen? Steam? Clean Coal”? Secret military tech becoming available to the public. Although sitting in a holographic vehicle might prove difficult:)
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Globally, of course, the ICE will continue to dominate for a long time:)

 

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I'm not going to bother looking up the specifics, but utility generated electricty at large fossil fueled generators generate less polutants than the eqivalant energy used in a typical, small ICE vehicle. Lots of pollution controls at those plants vs individual, sometimes inefficient gas engines.


For most users, EVs' aren't emission-free.. they're just displaced emissions, though the total tons of pollutants remains lower by the large utility plant vs thousands of individual gas vehicles.

Renewable power (solar/wind/geothermal) and nuclear are going to be much cleaner of course, while COAL isn't going to be much better at all.

Adoption of EVs over ICE is a good step toward reducing global warming by reducing overall CO2, even if you take into account all the lifetime pollution from manufacturing to disposal. It's not pollution-free, but there's less; sometimes much less. by going EV.

Unfortunately. overall personal vehicle use is just a one factor in causes of global warming. For example, all those crappy container ships and oil tankers with their unrefined fuel oil spew more sulfur and nitrogen oxides than all personal vehicles combined.

I weep for our grandkids.
 

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What if I told you they can make an electric moped?
Tell that to the tens of millions who are buying the ICE version each year. They would probably still use the petrol version over the battery version for various reasons.
 

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Tell that to the tens of millions who are buying the ICE version each year. They would probably still use the petrol version over the battery version for various reasons.
Maybe I will tell them.
 
 







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