Ecoboost vs hybrid

[Joofchicago]

I think resale value on a hybrid will be much higher down the road.

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[Not of this earth]

Looks like 2024 is switching to eco boost standard. Is that right? Should I pay more to do the hybrid? Can someone help me understand the benefits/difference between the two. Not well versed with engines.

I cannot get 40 bucks in my hybrid 13.8 gallon tank and my mpg is always at least 550 miles to 600 per tank without trying in normal mode, eco mode is the same.Mostly all flat roads here in E Tn.
The average cost of fuel is 280 Per gallon at Sams club
The real question is do you really need AWD Do you enjoy paying for fuel if you’re not towing anything ? Then the hybrid is a no-brainer
With the 2.0 motor and all wheel drive the tank is bigger-16.5 gallons and the average mpg is right around 400 miles per tank in the first edition I traded in for my hybrid TRUCK OF THE DECADE ordered both trucks back in 21 over the 4th of July No obligation to buy, so why not. Both lariats Both the same color.Dwayne at Ted Russel Ford even let me swap wheels upon purchase.

 

[Gonzo chris]

I was thinking about the hybrid myself, but I'm wondering about the CVT transmission. I know it's not like the older CVTs but anyone with any experience with it would be helpful. The other thing I like about the EcoBoost is, besides more power and lower price, is the ability to get AWD. Not that I necessarily need it, but I'd like having a fully independent suspension thrown in as well. Basically it's more power, AWD and a better ride /handling suspension versus paying a little more up front but saving on gas. I only drive around 6000 mi a year so gas savings will take a while to offset the $1500 (although I would likely give that money back by getting AWD with an EcoBoost...)

 

[AutobahnSHO]

I was thinking about the hybrid myself, but I'm wondering about the CVT transmission. I know it's not like the older CVTs but anyone with any experience with it would be helpful. The other thing I like about the EcoBoost is, besides more power and lower price, is the ability to get AWD. Not that I necessarily need it, but I'd like having a fully independent suspension thrown in as well. Basically it's more power, AWD and a better ride /handling suspension versus paying a little more up front but saving on gas. I only drive around 6000 mi a year so gas savings will take a while to offset the $1500 (although I would likely give that money back by getting AWD with an EcoBoost...)

Hybrid does NOT have a CVT. It has an eCVT, which is just like the Prius and many other hybrids use- it's a planetary gearset with a very small failure rate. Lasts better than most other transmissions.

The real difference is the higher power, availability of AWD, and higher available towing package in the EB, and better gas mileage but FWD only in the hybrid.

 

[Gonzo chris]

Hybrid does NOT have a CVT. It has an eCVT, which is just like the Prius and many other hybrids use- it's a planetary gearset with a very small failure rate. Lasts better than most other transmissions.

The real difference is the higher power, availability of AWD, and higher available towing package in the EB, and better gas mileage but FWD only in the hybrid.

Thanks for the info on the CVT. I think also I will have to drive them back to back before deciding. I think the one other benefit of the AWD is the independent rear suspension. But without a detailed drive over bumpy roads, it'll probably be hard to tell the difference. I only put about 6,000 mi a year in my personal vehicle so the mileage won't have a huge impact to me. Especially now that a new hybrid is 1500 more. On the flip side of that if I get the EcoBoost I will get AWD which is around $2,000 more. I'm about to turn 55 so assuming I keep this vehicle until I retire, I assume I'll be putting more miles on him, retirement and MPG will be more important. I also think that the EB will probably have more problems down the road, although the fans of that would probably say differently. I think you're much more likely to get the carbon build up with the turbo and DI and it seems like the transmission is more likely to fail. Cheers

 

[Gonzo chris]

If mainly city driving and you don't plan to tow much, get the Hybrid. You'll have better resale value. And it should be very long-lasting (once Ford gets the initial quality-control bugs squashed).

If towing, off-roading and/or mainly highway driving, get the ecoboost.

If they would make the hybrid available with AWD and the independent suspension and then I would take it for sure.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

After 3 years of exclusive FWD Hybrid driving, I drove a 2025 EcoBoost with 4k tow over the weekend.

The larger center screen was nice.
The integrated brake controller was nice. The trailer settings page was nice.
Otherwise, nearly the same vehicle.

Now the meat & potatoes.

The engine sounded so weird to me at idle. Sounded louder and rougher. But this is subjective. (Probably the hybrid sounds weird to EB owners.)

I towed my 3,000 lb enclosed utility trailer. 50/50 city / highway for about 100 miles.

50 miles net uphill = 15 MPG
50 miles return net downhill = 19 MPG.
About 17 MPG overall.

Same trip with the Hybrid = 18-19 MPG.

Some residential 20% grade on asphalt.
Hairpin turns (8-10 MPH) where you lose most forward momentum. FWD hybrid has some wheel chirp & squeak but power to spare. AWD EB no wheel chirp on asphalt.

FWD Hybrid = wheel spin towing uphill on loose gravel.

AWD EB = wheel spin towing uphill on loose gravel.

Backing the trailer uphill (5%) on green grass = piece of cake with the FWD hybrid. Confident and strong. One foot one pedal backing for the most part.

Backing the trailer uphill (5%) on green grass = reasonably difficult with the EB. No torque at idle. Had to nearly floor it to get the trailer running, which was then way too much power for the precise maneuvering I needed to do to go between fenceposts. Requires two foot - two pedal driving. Really had some close calls with the fence posts.

(10 foot opening with 8 foot wide trailer.)

Really tough to say which I like better in this scenario.

If I was starting over, I would probably rate for my towing needs:

#1 AWD Hybrid
#2 AWD EB
#3 FWD Hybrid
#4 FWD EB

But overall, the differences between vehicles while towing are marginal at best.

The only clarity is: Hybrid is the clear winner MPG wise in stop n go and slow n go conditions. I am routinely over 50 MPG net and 700+ mile tanks.

EB is the clear winner for long mountain grades with continuous heavy pulling.

The hybrid electric torque and eCVT is superior for trailer maneuvering and backing at slow speeds where precision is needed.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

In case you were wondering:

2022 FWD Hybrid XLT
vs
2025 AWD EB XL

 

[SafetyGuy]

After 3 years of exclusive FWD Hybrid driving, I drove a 2025 EcoBoost with 4k tow over the weekend.

The larger center screen was nice.
The integrated brake controller was nice. The trailer settings page was nice.
Otherwise, nearly the same vehicle.

Now the meat & potatoes.

The engine sounded so weird to me at idle. Sounded louder and rougher. But this is subjective. (Probably the hybrid sounds weird to EB owners.)

I towed my 3,000 lb enclosed utility trailer. 50/50 city / highway for about 100 miles.

50 miles net uphill = 15 MPG
50 miles return net downhill = 19 MPG.
About 17 MPG overall.

Same trip with the Hybrid = 18-19 MPG.

Some residential 20% grade on asphalt.
Hairpin turns (8-10 MPH) where you lose most forward momentum. FWD hybrid has some wheel chirp & squeak but power to spare. AWD EB no wheel chirp on asphalt.

FWD Hybrid = wheel spin towing uphill on loose gravel.

AWD EB = wheel spin towing uphill on loose gravel.

Backing the trailer uphill (5%) on green grass = piece of cake with the FWD hybrid. Confident and strong. One foot one pedal backing for the most part.

Backing the trailer uphill (5%) on green grass = reasonably difficult with the EB. No torque at idle. Had to nearly floor it to get the trailer running, which was then way too much power for the precise maneuvering I needed to do to go between fenceposts. Requires two foot - two pedal driving. Really had some close calls with the fence posts.

(10 foot opening with 8 foot wide trailer.)

Really tough to say which I like better in this scenario.

If I was starting over, I would probably rate for my towing needs:

#1 AWD Hybrid
#2 AWD EB
#3 FWD Hybrid
#4 FWD EB

But overall, the differences between vehicles while towing are marginal at best.

The only clarity is: Hybrid is the clear winner MPG wise in stop n go and slow n go conditions. I am routinely over 50 MPG net and 700+ mile tanks.

EB is the clear winner for long mountain grades with continuous heavy pulling.

The hybrid electric torque and eCVT is superior for trailer maneuvering and backing at slow speeds where precision is needed.

Thanks for your thoughts and experience using both types of Maverick.

Nice sum up, for anyone reading they can add it to their math when going over their needs in a nice small truck.

Cheers,

Andy

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