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Which is exactly how I explained Hill assist in my post #245 above yours.
Let's see...

The hill assist activates but only holds for about 3 seconds.
Hill assist is only there to hold you on the hill as you transition from brake to accelerator pedal.
No, those two statements aren't exactly the same.

I thought adding an explanation as to why hill assist only holds for about 3 seconds may help some people reading this thread who don't understand the system. Maybe not. There seem to be plenty of people here that aren't aware of it and what it does.

I'll just butt out, you seem to have it under control.
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i was prepared, since my 2023 escape has it as well. it did take me a few weeks to get used to it but i prefer it now. i can spin all the way clockwise and i know i'll end up in drive. i can spin all the way counter-clockwise and i know i'll end up in park. it's quick. it's easy. it doesn't take up a lot of space. and with my hybrid it's all computer controlled anyway. i'm not actually engaging any gears.
 

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Yes, for now they are required to be gone MY2029 in all vehicles. So most redesigns or new models have EPBs already.
BTW, I was joking about the old tech being better than the new tech. The old manual drum brake emergency brakes usually were rusted up and worked poorly.
My previous car, a Buick, had the manual lever with disc brakes.
 

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Ah, double clutching like McQueen in Bullitt! 😉
sure beats how I learned!

I assume the synchronizers were shot, but for whatever reason, the manual transmission in a huge uhaul was wonky.

At some point, it occurred to me that I'd just pushed the clutch twice.

Paying more attention, I realized that the shifter was failing to pass into the next gear, which was resisting, and that I was simply instinctively shifting again!

So I'd unconsciously learned to double clutch! At that point, I simply kept double clutching every shift until I turned it in, which made it easer to drive.

This also made things much easier years later when Carl was teaching me to drive his '27 Cadillac . . . he was amazed at how easily a "rookie" took to it (but didn't want me downshifting :crackup: )

Soon people won't drive anymore or work anymore. Ai will do everything better.
yeah, but that will be because they get fired after not realizing that the AI was generating nonsense, and they unwittingly submit it!

:teehee:

My previous car, a Buick, had the manual lever with disc brakes.
My Miata GT has four wheel discs, and I regularly used the hand brake when starting uphill from a stop. Kind of a pain not to have a handbrake with a manual . . .
 

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And? Doesn't change the fact that ALL vehicles are required by law to have electric emergency brakes in 2029. Most of my vehicles had a "manual lever." Drum and disc. But the Maverick doesn't and no vehicle will in 4 years. Would be stupid to design a new model today, knowing looming regulations, with a manual e brake.
Geez you people really like to beat dead horses. It was a joke about old technology!
And you ADMIT to driving a Buick? I'm old but would never admit to being that old.
sure beats how I learned!

I assume the synchronizers were shot, but for whatever reason, the manual transmission in a huge uhaul was wonky.

At some point, it occurred to me that I'd just pushed the clutch twice.

Paying more attention, I realized that the shifter was failing to pass into the next gear, which was resisting, and that I was simply instinctively shifting again!

So I'd unconsciously learned to double clutch! At that point, I simply kept double clutching every shift until I turned it in, which made it easer to drive.

This also made things much easier years later when Carl was teaching me to drive his '27 Cadillac . . . he was amazed at how easily a "rookie" took to it (but didn't want me downshifting :crackup: )



yeah, but that will be because they get fired after not realizing that the AI was generating nonsense, and they unwittingly submit it!

:teehee:



My Miata GT has four wheel discs, and I regularly used the hand brake when starting uphill from a stop. Kind of a pain not to have a handbrake with a manual . . .
Oh yeah. My third vehicle is my Miata. Can't seem to part with it. And the brake lever is handy and works great.
 

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My third vehicle is my Miata. Can't seem to part with it.
yeah, mine's an '06, so heavily Ford. It's been sitting sine 2015 waiting for a new engine, probably this fall or by mid next year. And it's going to be a ford 2.5, which is the same engine, but built harder (it was a joint project; ford owned a third of Mazda n those days).
 

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I tried this yesterday at the end of the driveway picking up the mail. See post #207 for steps. The parking brake did not engage. The auto hold did but I did not have to release the parking brake to move forward with the door open and unbuckled. Anytime I have manually set the parking brake I have to manually release it. Not sure if hill assist would be activated on a slope but when it has been it releases with acceleration.
Maybe I wasn't clear. But if the truck is in any gear other than Park, and you stop and open the door with your seatbelt unbuckled, or you open the door and then unbuckle your seatbelt. The truck will automatically go into Park. The parking brake may or may not engage. But it will always go into Park. However, if the door is ALREADY .open, you can put it in drive and move the truck.. in my experience, if the door is closed and the truck is placed in drive, the parking brake will release when accelerator is pressed.
 
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Shifter selector is fine, for an auto. It could be better, but its not bad.
Maybe have tactile 'steps' or notches of some sort between R - N - D.
Someone even mentioned having R in the counter clockwise direction, D in clockwise. Would make it easier to find R.

Maverick just needs a Manual gear lever, and none of this nonsense would be an issue (to me). :p

Initially my biggest concern was reaching for a 'round dial' to change gears, in the same area and hand as i reach for a round dial to adjust volume.
Yeah yeah, different size, difference places...but when you spend all your life adjusting volume with a rotary Dial, its a little funny.
After a month or so muscle memory adjusted, and its OK..
Still would suck to grab the wrong dial to adjust volume and accidentally spin the wrong one.

Just give me a manual trans, and none of this nonsense would be an issue.
A manual would be great or you and about 15 percent of today’s drivers
 

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I did try the different scenarios and at NO time does the parking brake automatically set on. It will auto release with enough accelerator input however on my sloped gravel drive it required enough acceleration that when it released it threw gravel. You are correct about the going into park from D or R but you can move it back to D or R with the door open and unbuckled.
It's not meant to automatically engage unless you put it in park on an incline. I have a 2025 hybrid. Maybe the others are different. But all I have to do is lightly press the accelerator if the doors closed and it releases as easily as it does when you have it on auto hold. Yours may be malfunctioning. I did notice on my 2025 that there is an update available for the ABS module. I didn't do it because I don't have a problem. But sometimes they have updates that address issues that only a few people have
 

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My 2023 Ford Explorer Timberline would engage the parking brake whenever you put it in park....my Maverick only does that when I park on an incline.
The explorer does is because of a recall where we reprogrammed the vehicle to do that because of another issue that could potentially cause a rollaway. So the recall makes them automatically engage the parking brake. Other vehicles don't automatically engage the parking brake. However there are many that will engage the parking brake if parked on an incline
 

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The explorer does is because of a recall where we reprogrammed the vehicle to do that because of another issue that could potentially cause a rollaway. So the recall makes them automatically engage the parking brake. Other vehicles don't automatically engage the parking brake. However there are many that will engage the parking brake if parked on an incline
I have to thank you for all your comments. You put your knowledge out there without spanking users who may not have your info. Quite a few on here seem to scold people that ask valid questions about issues.
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