Co-Pilot review

[TheQuixotic1]

I had Co-Pilot added to my 2022 Hybrid Mav. On a scale of 1-5, 5 being outstanding I'd give it a 3.5. For several years had a Honda CRV previous to the Mav and their equivalent ran very well, especially lane assistance so my comparisons are to that. I also have the Mav CoPilot settings to strictest lane assistance. The lane assistance on the CoPilot is weak - sometimes I had it on and on an open road and no one around tested it. It let me drift over the lines frequently which is disappointing (Honda's would strictly keep you in). Sometimes I can drift halfway over the line and it will either resist lightly or jerk you back in the lane. Pretty poor performance IMHO.

The front end collision assistance on the other hand is hyper-sensitive. I have been just nicely cruising along in another lane, no car drifting in front of me, everyone in their lane and it suddenly go off and scaring the heck out of us. Then have had a couple of moments where I came close to backending someone due to them slamming their brakes or cutting in front and stopping and it never even came on.

The best function is the backup warning light coming on when in reverse. It has worked very well.

So co-Pilot is somewhat helpful overall - needs some work though to actually increase safety as it is supposed to do.

Walt

Thank you for putting together this review. I have never owned a vehicle with any of these safety features, so I appreciate hearing the experiences others have with them on the Maverick.

My MY2024 Maverick will be getting built in just over 2 weeks from now. It's a Lariat EB, so it will have CP360 and CP360Assist as the Lariats are loaded by default for MY2024.

Immediately upon picking up the truck we will have several long trips to take in the USA and Mexico; definitely will be setting up and utilizing all of these features. I'll post my observations here as well.

I screen-cap'd this in the past when I was shopping for my Mav, not sure where I got it. From Ford's site, maybe?

All models have the driver assist technology at the bottom.

I bought my XL used and the prior owner purchased CP360. I would not have chosen it as an option. Even though I've always looked over my shoulder, I have grown to like the blind spot monitoring just because it seems like the Mav has a larger C-pillar blind spot than most other vehicles I've owned which just isn't visible over the shoulder. I really dislike the vibrating steering wheel for the lane keeping alert and turned that off, but I've started to like the part of it which silently nudges the wheel (not sure what that's called) when that's detected. I'm a very analog person though and I don't know if I'll ever get used to the feeling.



I could not agree more. It often seems like a lot of people are more concerned with the value of their vehicle to the next owner, and not the value to them, the current owner.

I didn't realize there was such a discrepancy for what is available in the XLT and Lariat in regards to Co-Pilot features.

I will say that after several thousand miles on the highways in my Lariat with all the CP360 features (adaptive cruise, blind spot, lane keeping, lane centering); I am 100% loving that I opted for every "intelligent" feature that was available for it. Several all-day road trips and I felt noticeably less fatigued after when the car does a big chunk of the work for me. That is ABSOLUTELY not to say there is still the need to be attentive and make "micro" corrections on things; but setting the adaptive cruise control to the farthest follow-distance and turning lane centering on affords me the chance to actively enjoy the drive significantly more than before.

In almost 10,000 miles of road trips and highway cruising, I believe there has been two or three times so far where the Maverick saw something that wasn't there or miscalculated something and pre-emptively braked for no reason. Considering that probably works out to something like a 99.5% accuracy rate I think it is a massively successful feature that more people should have at their disposal. The biggest nuisance about it so far for me is when someone changes lanes in front of me in the slow lane and, because I have the distance set to max, it immediately decelerates several miles per hour to gain the follow distance back. Outside of that nuisance and the frequent reminders to "keep hands on steering wheel" when I do have my hands on the wheel, it has been an amazing feature that I can't praise highly enough and I wouldn't want any future vehicle of mine to not have it.

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[RDS]

Could be wrong, but I believe in the 2022 models that CP360 included everything. For 2023 they split the feature into CP360 and CP360 assist.

 

[TheShark]

Thanks, that clears up some for me - but - adds another confusion - at least for me.
I know that all Mavericks have the Automatic braking that happens AFTER an accident - so that after an accident you arn't pushed in the car in front of you or worse oncoming lanes.
But I thought the auto braking that happens while you are driving was an option on the upper trims like the lariat?
Is the after an accident braking what you are talking about? Not while you're driving right?
You know they could have named these two systems something completely different to avoid confusion.
As dumb as Microsoft naming their file manager "Explorer" AND their internet browser "Explorer"/

We are talking about the Pre-Collision Assist with Auto Emergency Braking which is standard on all models. This can apply braking automatically in case it detects an immediate collision. I'm unaware of the post collision braking on the Maverick, I can't see it listed anywhere.

 

[TheShark]

Could be wrong, but I believe in the 2022 models that CP360 included everything. For 2023 they split the feature into CP360 and CP360 assist.

In '22 for the Lariat CP360 assist was included in the Lux package, in '23 they removed it and made it a option with the Lux package, many guys who had a carry over order from '22 where surprised when their '23 arrived and no adaptive cruise control because they either weren't told by their dealer or just forgot to add CP360 assist as an option. '24 Lariats all have Lux with CP360 assist, I'm sure some of that came from the backlash of the '23 fiasco.

 

[Robert C]

We are talking about the Pre-Collision Assist with Auto Emergency Braking which is standard on all models. This can apply braking automatically in case it detects an immediate collision. I'm unaware of the post collision braking on the Maverick, I can't see it listed anywhere.

And I just don't see the Pre-collision assist standard other than by ordering the 360 copilot assist+ on the upper trim level. If by pre collision you mean to stop you from having a second accident AFTER being hit by being pushed into other cars yes they all have that - the brakes are applied after a collision.. But I do know my XL will not apply the brakes if it (somehow) detects an immediate collision.

I think we are confusing the two. What they are calling pre collision is the pre collision of you and another car after an accident. It applies the brakes AFTER a collision. That is standard. Your maverick is not going to apply the brakes other than that in the base model without assist+. (Which I don't think you can even get in the base model XL).

 

[Jim Paradise]

I have a 2022 Lariat and I like the 360 feature. I think it does a good job of keeping in my lane without jerking the truck around.

 

[Leuf]

And I just don't see the Pre-collision assist standard other than by ordering the 360 copilot assist+ on the upper trim level. If by pre collision you mean to stop you from having a second accident AFTER being hit by being pushed into other cars yes they all have that - the brakes are applied after a collision.. But I do know my XL will not apply the brakes if it (somehow) detects an immediate collision.

It's confusing because Ford lists it under CP360 on the website, but then says it's standard under that on the XL.

Co-Pilot360® Technology
Standard

• Auto LED High-Beam
• Autolamp – Auto On/Off LED Headlamps
• Pre-Collision Assist With Automatic Emergency Braking
• Rear View Camera

Optional

• BLIS with Cross-Traffic Alert
• Lane Departure Warning
• Lane-Keeping Aid
• Lane-Centering

 

[LSchicago]

I can only talk about the lane centering aspect. It sucks compared to my wife’s Honda Accord.

Maverick's Base CP360 does not include lane centering.

 

[LSchicago]

The BLIS is tight. If you move over right when the light turns off, you are likely to get a nice wave from the person you cut off. It is useful as it will flash if you turn your turn signal on. But I have some $2 blind spot mirrors that help a lot.

Blis is just meant to tell you that something is next to you, or not. It's not telling you to change lanes. You still need to rely on your mirror image for that.

 

[LSchicago]

I didn't realize there was such a discrepancy for what is available in the XLT and Lariat in regards to Co-Pilot features.

I will say that after several thousand miles on the highways in my Lariat with all the CP360 features (adaptive cruise, blind spot, lane keeping, lane centering); I am 100% loving that I opted for every "intelligent" feature that was available for it. Several all-day road trips and I felt noticeably less fatigued after when the car does a big chunk of the work for me. That is ABSOLUTELY not to say there is still the need to be attentive and make "micro" corrections on things; but setting the adaptive cruise control to the farthest follow-distance and turning lane centering on affords me the chance to actively enjoy the drive significantly more than before.

In almost 10,000 miles of road trips and highway cruising, I believe there has been two or three times so far where the Maverick saw something that wasn't there or miscalculated something and pre-emptively braked for no reason. Considering that probably works out to something like a 99.5% accuracy rate I think it is a massively successful feature that more people should have at their disposal. The biggest nuisance about it so far for me is when someone changes lanes in front of me in the slow lane and, because I have the distance set to max, it immediately decelerates several miles per hour to gain the follow distance back. Outside of that nuisance and the frequent reminders to "keep hands on steering wheel" when I do have my hands on the wheel, it has been an amazing feature that I can't praise highly enough and I wouldn't want any future vehicle of mine to not have it.

There isn't a big discrepancy between XL and Lariat CP360, (or XL's with CP360) You have to have CP360 Assist add on to get the ACC & lane centering features. MY 2023 XL CP360 is the same as any 2023 CP360 that did not order the 360 assist.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

Ordered my 23 Lariat Lux with ail 360's. Everything except sunroof and bed liner. I like and use all the buttons and settings.

 

[RichardCranium]

I didn't realize there was such a discrepancy for what is available in the XLT and Lariat in regards to Co-Pilot features.

I will say that after several thousand miles on the highways in my Lariat with all the CP360 features (adaptive cruise, blind spot, lane keeping, lane centering); I am 100% loving that I opted for every "intelligent" feature that was available for it. Several all-day road trips and I felt noticeably less fatigued after when the car does a big chunk of the work for me. That is ABSOLUTELY not to say there is still the need to be attentive and make "micro" corrections on things; but setting the adaptive cruise control to the farthest follow-distance and turning lane centering on affords me the chance to actively enjoy the drive significantly more than before.

In almost 10,000 miles of road trips and highway cruising, I believe there has been two or three times so far where the Maverick saw something that wasn't there or miscalculated something and pre-emptively braked for no reason. Considering that probably works out to something like a 99.5% accuracy rate I think it is a massively successful feature that more people should have at their disposal. The biggest nuisance about it so far for me is when someone changes lanes in front of me in the slow lane and, because I have the distance set to max, it immediately decelerates several miles per hour to gain the follow distance back. Outside of that nuisance and the frequent reminders to "keep hands on steering wheel" when I do have my hands on the wheel, it has been an amazing feature that I can't praise highly enough and I wouldn't want any future vehicle of mine to not have it.

My wife's prius has similar tech to what you are talking about. It is very nice to drive on long trips. I would love that on my maverick, but unwilling to buy a lariat.
There has been exactly 2 false alarms with the pre-collision system when I have been driving, and the stereo turns off, the screens go blank and the screens that are the gauges turns red and says "BRAKE!" if you do not, it will do it for you. That is the kind of pre-collision braking I am assuming my maverick will have (Maybe not the red screen).
But the rest of the CP360 has been quite confusing. It absolutely doesn't make sense that they are all named the same thing, but I bet Ford likes the confusion. people think CP360 gets them everything, when it actually does not.
My confusion was with the lain keeping aid. When I first ordered, I thought it would steer the truck back into the lane, then I read somewhere that all it does is vibrate the steering wheel, and now I read that there is a setting so it will steer the truck back into the lane. It isn't only MTC that is confused about it, all the internet doesn't seem to know the extent of CP360 on any of Ford's vehicles that come equipped.

 

[Robert C]

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Yeah, the words "pre collision assist with automatic emergency braking" is misleading - deceptive really, seems deliberately so. That will apply the brakes AFTER an accident so you are not pushed into the car in front of you or oncoming lanes. That's it.
It does not brake while you are driving when it senses an upcoming accident. There is no radar and if you didn't get the 360 there isn't even a forward camera. And Lane keeping and centering is passive. It does not grab the steering wheel or brake for you. This is all on the optional assist+
Only thing standard is the braking after an accident.
You have to get the copilot 360 to get the passive Lane keeping and Lane departure warnings. This also gets you power mirrors on the XL .
The 360 copilot assist+ has the radar and does brake for you and steers you back into the lane. On the upper trim only.

 

[Gullzway]

I'm not having that issue with mine. It seems to do well in keeping it centered. I'm sure you know, but the lane centering only works when Auto-Cruise is turned on and you see a green wheel in the upper left.

Same here, the 360 Assist Adaptive Cruise on my 2022 Lux Hybrid is nearly flawless.
Probably my favorite feature on the truck.

The Lane Keep Assist however, is pretty poor. Similar to others, it doesn't work well, often crosses the lines anyway, and even with Intensity on High I hardly notice a vibration. That, and it doesn't work under 40mph. I can set Adaptive cruise at Any mph.

Maybe they can put out a software update to improve the Lane Keep Assist?

 

[Leuf]

Yeah, the words "pre collision assist with automatic emergency braking" is misleading - deceptive really, seems deliberately so. That will apply the brakes AFTER an accident so you are not pushed into the car in front of you or oncoming lanes. That's it.
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You are just wrong. Ford is not going to put "pre collision" on something that happens post collision. They would get sued into oblivion.

https://www.ford.com/technology/driver-assist-technology/pre-collision-assist/

The Pre-Collision Assist feature uses camera technology to detect a potential collision with a vehicle or pedestrian directly in front of yours during day or nighttime driving. * It can help reduce the severity of, and in some cases can eliminate, a frontal collision. If a potential collision is detected, an alert sound is emitted and a warning message displays in the message center. If your response is not sufficient, Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) will precharge and increase brake-assist sensitivity to provide full responsiveness when you do brake. If you don’t take corrective action and a collision is imminent, brakes can apply automatically.

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