Best all around "readily available" oil for the 2.0 Ecoboost?

[Jalopy Technology]

The owners manual says it's more than simply a clock/odometer based. The service manual goes into slightly more depth: "The instrument cluster provides messages to inform the driver about the engine oil life status, engine oil life reset status and when an engine oil change is required. The duration of the interval between engine oil changes is calculated in the PCM and varies due to driving conditions. The PCM assumes a base mileage of 16,090 km (10,000 mi) or 1 year for normal driving. However, this number is adjusted down for conditions such as high engine temperature, high engine rpm, use of flex fuel and possibly low engine oil level. The PCM calculates and provides the engine oil life percent message to the IPC . The engine oil change minder can be reset at any time by the driver."

How exactly the PCM makes the calculation or what data precisely it's pulling, I can't tell you, but there is lots of documentation it isn't simply a clock/mileage countdown.

These sorts of systems are common on modern cars and have been very common on heavy trucks for even longer. Though it is worth noting these systems monitor how the engine is performing between oil changes not testing the oil directly to make the oil life determination.

I have never seen an oil monitoring device on any class8 truck I have driven in the last 53 years. Right now our fleet consists of Volvo, Peterbilt, Kenworth and Mack trucks.

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[UniversityOfPi]

I have never seen an oil monitoring device on any class8 truck I have driven in the last 53 years. Right now our fleet consists of Volvo, Peterbilt, Kenworth and Mack trucks.

Some of them are hidden, I know the newer Peterbilts from the last 5 years have them under the hood. I work for a bus company and on our Prevost motorcoaches MY 2012+ it's a diagnostic you can pull fairly easily. We've also got a handful of VanHool motorcoaches and those you have to hook up a laptop to get that information (and I'm not confident it's there on anything other than the 2019s). New trucks tend to have the monitors, though like a lot of data how accessible and useful that data is varies wildly. We don't actually use that data, we typically just do an oil change every 15k miles (or whatever specified interval as part of our preventive maintenance program)

 

[Jalopy Technology]

Some of them are hidden, I know the newer Peterbilts from the last 5 years have them under the hood. I work for a bus company and on our Prevost motorcoaches MY 2012+ it's a diagnostic you can pull fairly easily. We've also got a handful of VanHool motorcoaches and those you have to hook up a laptop to get that information (and I'm not confident it's there on anything other than the 2019s). New trucks tend to have the monitors, though like a lot of data how accessible and useful that data is varies wildly. We don't actually use that data, we typically just do an oil change every 15k miles (or whatever specified interval as part of our preventive maintenance program)

Gotcha... today I had to fight with a Mack that ran the right fuel tank empty but left the left side with 75 gallons in it!

I had to buy two plastc gas tanks, a funnel and 10 gallons of diesel to get this this running again.

I dont carry a fuel card since I dont go more than 150 miles from home so Ill have to get my plastic out to buy enough motion lotion for the 150 mile trip from Il to home.

File this under " aint truckin fun".

 

[Oscarcat]

Did anyone suggest checking the API, American Petroleum Institute, designations found in the online manual for your 2025 2.0 EB?

Then determine what type of driving you do - lots of towing? Idling, including frequent use of remote start? Short trips? Off-road and unpaved roads, etc. Those are the things that will determine how often to change your oil. That and the Oil Life Monitor.

I read on this forum where people expect to keep their Mav until the wheels fall off, citing 200k+ miles on their other vehicles. That is admirable. However I don't want to be driving any vehicle where the driver's seat cushion has deteriorated and is unsupportive, the seams of the upholstery are torn, the rubber components on the suspension are shreded due to age and wear and the dash is cracked due to sun damage. Not to mention failed electronics. I don't want to pay to fix the aforementioned so I look to sell mine before it hits the bewitching 100k mile mark. Usually in the middle of my third set of tires [Original + 2]. This gives me decent resale value and $$$ towards the purchase of my next vehicle.

Personally, I use Mobil-1 full synthetic and a Motorcraft 910s oil filter about 5k miles. Air filter change. Fluid and coolant changes done as an infusion, not as a flush. Drain what I can, then refill. Repeat in 20-25k miles, about 2 years for me.

 

[Tbone289]

Use the best oil of 5w-20 or 5w-30. The 30 viscosity oil may give you and immeasurable MPG gain. I personally prefer the extra protection of the 20 viscosity oil.

You have this backwards...

 

[Richard2212]

You have this backwards...

You are sooooo correct!

 

[Snox801]

Did anyone suggest checking the API, American Petroleum Institute, designations found in the online manual for your 2025 2.0 EB?

Then determine what type of driving you do - lots of towing? Idling, including frequent use of remote start? Short trips? Off-road and unpaved roads, etc. Those are the things that will determine how often to change your oil. That and the Oil Life Monitor.

I read on this forum where people expect to keep their Mav until the wheels fall off, citing 200k+ miles on their other vehicles. That is admirable. However I don't want to be driving any vehicle where the driver's seat cushion has deteriorated and is unsupportive, the seams of the upholstery are torn, the rubber components on the suspension are shreded due to age and wear and the dash is cracked due to sun damage. Not to mention failed electronics. I don't want to pay to fix the aforementioned so I look to sell mine before it hits the bewitching 100k mile mark. Usually in the middle of my third set of tires [Original + 2]. This gives me decent resale value and $$$ towards the purchase of my next vehicle.

Personally, I use Mobil-1 full synthetic and a Motorcraft 910s oil filter about 5k miles. Air filter change. Fluid and coolant changes done as an infusion, not as a flush. Drain what I can, then refill. Repeat in 20-25k miles, about 2 years for me.

I will have over 200k in about 3 years of ownership or sooner. So None of that stuff is wore out on mine. So I do pay more attention to oils and such than most cause the amount of miles I will collect on this truck. Usually 4-500k on mine after 5-6 years the. They are wore out

 

[wb5oxq]

Thank you for some insightful and real world experience and feedback. What specific Amsoil are you using? And how many miles is your oil change indicator suggesting an oil change with heavy usage?

I use Ford Motorcraft 5-30 full synthetic and a Motorcraft filter every 5000 miles.

 

[wb5oxq]

Use a good brand of full synthetic. Motorcraft is a synthetic blend

Motorcraft offers both types.

 

[Snox801]

Motorcraft offers both types.

Yes and both are not considered the top of the heap.
Way to many very high quality oils to decide on motorcrap

 

[boxster03]

some recent information with oil analysis says Valvoline synthetic has the most protective additives

 

[Snox801]

some recent information with oil analysis says Valvoline synthetic has the most protective additives

Additives is not the soul measure of how good it will protect. Motor oil geek has something on that also. Just adding a pile of additives does not make a great oil. They must be balanced. You simply can’t go buy all the additives from auto one add them and have better oil.
The true test is actually wear tests.
Analysis only can show you how well the oil is holding up. And what wear is occurring.
Example. Oil a may have the best additive package and allow least amount of wear when new.
but oil b may be better at protecting with greater fuel dilution than oil A.

 

[jb_cb900]

Some thing else to consider is, more additives, less base oil. Could it be that the base oil is not quite as good and requires additional additives to meet certain parameters at the expense of others? Marketing is everything.

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