Auto Stop/Start may be going away (per EPA)

[Snox801]

This is rich coming from the guy who routinely exceeds tow ratings and brags about it....

So yes there are plenty of people out there pulling 4K with HF45 even!

Nothing rich I even stated I know if mine fails it’s because of me. Number two we all know that we have almost zero track record of the hybrids pulling. 4K with any amount of miles on them .
A few have yes but if we are using sample sizes that small the 8 speed is better cause I have almost 40k miles of towing well beyond the 4k so by that standard they are bullet proof and all points are moot anyway Again nothing wrong with the hybrid if it fits your life but you sound like the guy that has to try and convince everyone that a hybrid fits all scenarios better. In fact it doesn’t. You just simply ignore the fact that for towing it’s not better. It also has it own set of issues.
As stated before it simply can’t tow as well as an ecoboost because it simply does not have the power consistently. Yes it can when the battery has charge but that won’t last up some long grades or towing at 75mph. At highway speed it can not use the regeneration so so you are left with a weak 4 cylinder.
If towing around town sure but I hit the highway for full days at a time.

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[FischAutoTechGarten]

Non political (hopefully) take: Now's the time to get the EPA to fix the gas can standards. The "always leaks when you pour" plunger contraptions are the epitome of bad design all around.

Man you aren't kidding... especially on a hot day when vapor builds in the can... YOu try to carefully relieve it... and well y'all know...

 

[Waterick]

No thanks comrade. You can keep your deep sleep issues. NO MANDATES in a free country!

Only Ford hybrids have 12v battery problems.
Our Prius battery is over eight years old and frequently sits a week at a time now that I have the Maverick and never shows any signs of weakness. Yeah, the Mav - I can't count the number of times I've recharged it. IIRC, even the EcoBoost Maverick AS/S usually doesn't work due to weak battery issues.

 

[RussCantrell]

I’m more of buy what you like and want type and stop worrying about what others are doing or buying. I like the fact others like hybrids it’s just not for me. And it’s good we have choices

I'd say that anyone buying a Maverick prolly has more in common than not. Even EB owners are interested in a small, affordable, responsible vehicle.

Now, if I ever see someone modding a Mav for rolling coal? Might change my opinion then!

 

[Cherokee]

I guess I better keep my mouth shut, or people will call me a lier.
Wait a sec, I Don’t Care !
I think the auto stop start and the long one minute seatbelt reminder is ass~en~ine.

 

[jonshep]

I hate it. As a young driver if you stopped at an intersection and the car died, there was a 60% chance you would have push your pride and joy thru the intersection to the curb, while all other drivers honked, cussed at you and waved No 1 at you. It often meant the points stuck, a condenser went south, the coil burned out, or your car was out of gas. Those were all bad things. So now when it auto dies, my heart doesn't beat for a few seconds. If I forget to turn it off and pull into a parking space, the engine dies, I shift it into park and the engine restarts. WTF is that about?

 

[Blinky]

1. HF55 is more simple and robust than the 8F35 so you are wrong about complexity.

2. A Ford powerboost drivetrain combines an ecoboost engine with a hybrid transaxle. It’s truly the best of both worlds.

Some people just like smashing their balls though.

I'd love this if they actually gave it enough battery to bop around town like many other hybrids, ~50 miles on battery would be amazing.

 

[Waterick]

I guess I better keep my mouth shut, or people will call me a lier.
Wait a sec, I Don’t Care !
I think the auto stop start and the long one minute seatbelt reminder is ass~en~ine.

At least the AS/S can be switched off.

 

[710-oil-614]

I'd love this if they actually gave it enough battery to bop around town like many other hybrids, ~50 miles on battery would be amazing.

That is a plug in electric hybrid.

 

[pigsareus]

I'd love this if they actually gave it enough battery to bop around town like many other hybrids, ~50 miles on battery would be amazing.

yeah as it is now you can get about 1 mile on the battery

 

[HeyBales]

Only Ford hybrids have 12v battery problems.
Our Prius battery is over eight years old and frequently sits a week at a time now that I have the Maverick and never shows any signs of weakness. Yeah, the Mav - I can't count the number of times I've recharged it. IIRC, even the EV Maverick AS/S usually doesn't work due to weak battery issues.

Maverick EV (assuming you mean hybrid since there is no EV version) has no AS/S, not a thing.
So a weak battery can't effect what doesn't exist.

Actually - other hybrids have shown up with 12V battery problems on some model platforms.
They all seem to make them small since not much power needed. Only a select few also use cheap ones.
Toyota - now there's a battery it would probably be smart to find the H4 size in and buy for longevity!

 

[HeyBales]

good idea! I just never put it in ECO mode - I'm good with the default mode.

For sure some confusion here it appears. Or could cause confusion.

If you are indeed in hybrid as your info shows - you never putting it in ECO mode does not prevent AS/S that is being discussed - as the hybrid doesn't have that to avoid anyway.

All ECO mode would do for you in comparison to default Normal mode would be the Go pedal would be a tad slower response on the top end, and the regen would be higher on coast causing faster slowdown.

ECO mode on EB doesn't cause AS/S either - that "feature" is it's own button to disable. Enabled by default.

 

[Waterick]

For sure some confusion here it appears. Or could cause confusion.

If you are indeed in hybrid as your info shows - you never putting it in ECO mode does not prevent AS/S that is being discussed - as the hybrid doesn't have that to avoid anyway.

All ECO mode would do for you in comparison to default Normal mode would be the Go pedal would be a tad slower response on the top end, and the regen would be higher on coast causing faster slowdown.

ECO mode on EB doesn't cause AS/S either - that "feature" is it's own button to disable. Enabled by default.

Maverick EV (assuming you mean hybrid since there is no EV version) has no AS/S, not a thing.
So a weak battery can't effect what doesn't exist.

Actually - other hybrids have shown up with 12V battery problems on some model platforms.
They all seem to make them small since not much power needed. Only a select few also use cheap ones.
Toyota - now there's a battery it would probably be smart to find the H4 size in and buy for longevity!

Sorry, did not QC my typing. Fat finger on the B for EcoBoost. Should have read "EB" not "EV".

 

[HeyBales]

Sorry, did not QC my typing. Fat finger on the B for EcoBoost. Should have read "EB" not "EV".

Got it - didn't think about an error in that direction.

To your point - it would be interesting then to know what amount of EB drivers do have it engage frequently, they don't have as many battery issues as hybrid.
It's got all kinds of automatic "outs" to running, so might be hard to know when it's a low battery.

The system does not stop the engine if:

• The driver door is open.
• Your vehicle is at high altitude.
• The heated windshield is on.
• The engine is warming up.
• The outside temperature is too low or too high.
• The battery charge is low.
• The battery temperature is outside the optimal operating range.
• The engine is required to run to maintain interior climate and reduce fogging.

The system restarts the engine if:

• You switch the heated windshield on.
• You switch maximum defrost on.
• Your vehicle starts to roll downhill in neutral.
• The engine is required to run to maintain adequate brake system assistance.
• The engine is required to run to maintain interior climate and reduce fogging.

 

[Blinky]

That is a plug in electric hybrid.

Sure, that's fine and they should go ahead n get er done.

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