Anyone else unimpressed by the build quality? Some examples inside

[Nomadikhan]

Those paint issues would hopefully be able to be covered under warranty if you were to raise them with Ford?

I figured as much but luckily they are inside the door frame out of the way. I’m lucky in the way that Al the issues flooding the forum I really haven’t had especially for a Dec2021 delivery date when I got mine

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[Lone Star Proud]

My Maverick meets or exceeds my expectations. The only issue I have had so far is the freaking deer that ran out in front of me.

 

[deej]

The obvious point being that once you start using it, many buyers are likely to want more. See Ranger, F-150.

While that may be true, many buyers actually want "less". I'm on my third Ford Ranger (currently driving a 2011 model), and would have bought one of the new Rangers if they hadn't decided to make them so huge. The attractiveness of the 2011 and older Ranger is the small size. There are a lot of people like me that simply don't want a huge vehicle, but still want a truck.

 

[jsus]

While that may be true, many buyers actually want "less". I'm on my third Ford Ranger (currently driving a 2011 model), and would have bought one of the new Rangers if they hadn't decided to make them so huge. The attractiveness of the 2011 and older Ranger is the small size. There are a lot of people like me that simply don't want a huge vehicle, but still want a truck.

You're really not disagreeing with me there.

The statement you quoted very clearly says "many buyers". It's talking about converting people into pickup drivers. And once they start using the smaller truck, you might find a bigger truck opens new opportunities. Maybe they start looking to tow more (larger camper trailers, for instance). Some on here have mentioned interest in a Maverick, then realized they wanted to tow more than a Maverick can handle.

You aren't interested in a present day Ranger let alone F-150. Selling you a Maverick is not cannibalizing sales of larger trucks, something they don't want for obvious reasons ($$). Instead, it keeps you as a Ford customer, expanding the market for Ford vehicles in general and Ford trucks in particular. If Maverick didn't exist, it sounds like you wouldn't be buying a (new) Ford truck at all.

Put differently, they didn't launch Maverick so they could sell current gen Ranger or F-150 drivers a cheaper truck. They launched it 1) to take the entry level position in Ford's lineup, and 2) to expand sales of Ford trucks to those who wouldn't otherwise look to buy a Ford truck.

You wouldn't be buying a Ford truck if they didn't launch Maverick. You might not even buy another Ford. So that's a net positive for them, which was the plan.

Some Ranger and F-150 customers will realize they would be better suited by the smaller, cheaper truck, but generally, those customers like what they have.

Then there are those, like many on here, who keep their larger truck but use a Maverick as a daily driver. That otherwise might be another brand's sedan or CUV, so, again, net win for Ford.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Overall no, I'm actually quite impressed with the build quality. Certainly better than something like a new civic. Are there some cheap parts? Sure, but everytime I see that ford cheaped out on something like not having an engine cover, or not putting decorative trim against the rear wall of the cab, I'm actually happy. Because it increases the probability that ford was able to divert those budgets to more important areas like the powertrain. As long as our maverick hybrid lasts 15 or so years without major issues, which is pretty reasonable considering the history of the powertrain, I'll be happy.

 

[deej]

The statement you quoted very clearly says "many buyers". It's talking about converting people into pickup drivers.

To clarify, what I meant was that "many buyers" are already truck drivers such as myself that prefer a small truck, like the older Rangers, and are not interested in buying a larger truck. I was not referring to converting non-truck drivers into truck drivers, although I do agree with you that is another benefit of the Mav.

You aren't interested in a present day Ranger let alone F-150.

You wouldn't be buying a Ford truck if they didn't launch Maverick.

These are probably true, but I would have bought the first new model Ranger off the line if they had kept it the same size as the 2011 Ranger. Ford sized themselves out of my market.

My ideal truck would be something the size of the 2011 Ranger, AWD (not 4WD), 2 seats with an extended cab, 6 ft bed, tow up to 4k, and get at least 30 mpg. The Mav isn't perfect for me, but is the closest thing available.

To bring this back around to the thread topic, I ordered a Lariat Lux CP360 4k tow with the BAP for an MSRP around $38k, and compared to a Ranger with a similar trim level it still seems like a good deal to me. I don't have it yet so can't evaluate the build quality myself, but if it turns out to be less than stellar, I'll drive it a few years and see what else comes out. I'm hoping the small truck market is coming back strong and there will be several options to choose from in the near future.

 

[jsus]

To clarify, what I meant was that "many buyers" are already truck drivers such as myself that prefer a small truck, like the older Rangers, and are not interested in buying a larger truck. I was not referring to converting non-truck drivers into truck drivers, although I do agree with you that is another benefit of the Mav.

These are probably true, but I would have bought the first new model Ranger off the line if they had kept it the same size as the 2011 Ranger. Ford sized themselves out of my market.

My ideal truck would be something the size of the 2011 Ranger, AWD (not 4WD), 2 seats with an extended cab, 6 ft bed, tow up to 4k, and get at least 30 mpg. The Mav isn't perfect for me, but is the closest thing available.

That's what I'm saying...

Maverick fills the same small/compact truck slot in Ford's lineup that the previous Ranger did. A hole in the lineup that brings in customers such as yourself who never wanted anything larger than their old Ranger, as well as those who would never even consider a larger truck.

From there, I noted that after these new pickup buyers get a taste of the capabilities of a truck, they may find themselves wanting more capability than a Maverick can offer.

Not that every single Maverick buyer will inevitably buy a larger truck. Nothing wrong if you personally stick with something the size of a 2011 Ranger or 2022 Maverick. Some will want a larger bed, more towing capacity, etc., once they find use cases their Maverick can't handle.

 

[deej]

Some will want a larger bed, more towing capacity, etc., once they find use cases their Maverick can't handle.

The smaller bed of the Mav vs the Ranger is a concern of mine, although I can only think of a couple of times that I completely filled the Ranger bed.

The Mav is a bit of a compromise, but it may simply be I need to adjust my thinking slightly to find ways to accomplish those few things, such as using my small trailer if I need to haul things too large for the Mav bed. Getting 29 mpg vs the 19 mpg of the Ranger is probably worth the trade-off...

 

[Whs_Jr]

I think the body panels are really thin. They are thinner than our Edge for sure.

Also, debris from the driver's side rear tire getting thrown into the body panel and taillight is not impressive at all. Just how long has Ford been making vehicles anyway?

There's a really bad turbulence noise when I lower the only the rear windows at highway speed. It's alarmingly bad.

That really bad turbulence noise is physics the air moving outside the vehicle is trying to get in and is until the inside pressure forces some of it out the cycling of this is the turbulence you hear. Open the rear view window for some relief.

 

[commadorebob]

You should visit the Tesla forums some time. Same complaints on a vehicle that cost 3X as much. Unless you are willing to spend the money on a hand-built Bentley or Rolls, you are going to get a mass-produced vehicle with mass-produced quality. They literally just don't make them like they used to.

 

[shunt1sc]

Yes its a 20-30k truck so i shouldn't expect luxury. these are some of the build quality issues ive come across not even gotten through my first tank of gas.

1. There is no insulation between the engine and the cab. When i open my drivers door i can see inside my engine bay. Ill elaborate more on this later on.

2. The fender liners dont align, mate, and cover the wheel well. tons of dirt, salt, etc gets up inside the engine bay from here and accelerates corrosion in hard to reach spaces, especially the pinch welds. Dirt and grime also easily migrates to the door seals, door wiring boot and can seep its way inside the frame.

3. The rear wheel well fender liner and splash guard doesnt cover or protect the rocker panel and the wheel constantly shoves water and dirt into it accelerating corrosion. i dont think there is a product that could even help this as theres just to much water flow.

4. this one is a little more specific to me, The steering wheel upholstery is torn and not fitted well, you can easily see inside the steering column into the engine bay.

besides the torn upholstery are these same issues on everyone else mavericks? or worth raising a warranty claim?. Anyone else have things they've noticed?

On my Lariat there appears to be an insulating panel. See photos.

 

[hikonhui]

I think the body panels are really thin. They are thinner than our Edge for sure.

Also, debris from the driver's side rear tire getting thrown into the body panel and taillight is not impressive at all. Just how long has Ford been making vehicles anyway?

There's a really bad turbulence noise when I lower the only the rear windows at highway speed. It's alarmingly bad.

Whenever I open the rear window only on my 2006 Honda accord, 2022 camry hybrid, 2004 tacoma 4 door, 2014 forrester and pretty much every car I owned besides a minvan makes that hollow noise. It has something to do with insulation or too much of it for wind to pass through.

 

[Old Ranchero]

To my knowledge its just called buffeting. For cavitation you need a liquid. Pressure differences create cavities of air in a liquid meduim. I learned this from watching Hunt for the Red October. Cavitation is a easily detectable sound signature underwater from a vessels prop blades. The Red October had a caterpillar drive that sounded quieter and registered more as a seismic anomaly.

Buffeting, aside from a dance I learned at Margaritaville, is a irregular occilation of on object striking another object. In this case both objects are wind. Turbulent and slower air swirling inside the cab being fed from the front windows creating pressure hits against the pressure of the air stream outside the cab. These principals are also apparent in the "aboriginal telephone call" Mick makes in Crocodile Dundee 2.

Most vehicles with 4 doors can and will do this if you have the windows down in the right configuration. 2drs also do it however the frequency is higher and less irritating.

As for the OPs concern of all this build quality stuff. There are about 5 pristine Yugos out there in the world. This is because even though they were a cheap ass crappy car 5 people took care of em. If yours gets dirty in places it shouldnt, clean em. If someone expects Mercedes quality out of the cheapest Ford economy vehicle you can buy(that also happens to be capable of alot of cool things)then just spend the difference between what you paid and a Mercedes at a local mechanic and detail shop, I'm sure they will take your money.

I personally dont like any of the felt materials I see on the Maverick. As time goes on I will be replacing them all with whatever I deem a better material. The wheel wells felts will eventually be replaced with plastic or alloy shields and bedliner paint. The under body felts on my Tremor will likely get replaced with a mix aluminum plate and cutting board material and possibly more bedliner paint.

This is all 5, 10, or 15 years down the road when these "issues" stat making "problems" on my mid trimmed, top offroad spec'd, class leading mpg, $31,000 big ole lil American truck.

You are correct. My wife has always called the buffeting "cavitation" and I never bothered looking into it myself. Did a quick search yesterday and found the term does indeed refer to liquid. Edited initial post to reflect updated info. Thanks for the heads up on that

 

[Maveriac]

The level of expectations some of you folks have of your entry level Ford Maverick pickups never ceases to amaze me. I didn't buy my Maverick and expect it to have the component fit and finish of the Lamborghini Urus. If you want the same disappointment you are knit picking your Maverick about buy a Mercedes vehicle for a small fortune. I paid four times the price of my Maverick for a 2011 Mercedes SL55 AMG and got rid of it after 3 years with under 50,000 miles. I knew I couldn't afford to keep it on the road after the warranty expired. Same with my Mercedes GL550.
On the other hand I sold my 2000 Ford Ranger 4X4 XLT with 140,000 miles on it and upgraded to my Maverick with similar equipment. You know; I forgot to look for problems with my Ranger or I may have sold it the same year I bought it.
I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, but I have a few defects myself like being honest with and forgiving of people.
Enjoy your Mavericks folks !

 

[2022 pushed behind 2023's]

Rain will poor inside when you open the rear doors.

Denting/chipped paint is a thing, get used to it.

I found it impossible to clean that fender matting, on a Hybrid it extends like the entirety of the under body. I assume this is for better MPG's.

The Hybrids programing is wonky. My driveway is steep. If I drive down it, about 10% of the regen goes back INTO the battery if there is room. If not, it cranks the ICE up to provide compression braking. If the ICE is cold the regen kicks off seconds before the ICE comes on. Feels like free fall! This is compounded since if I was to turn around and go back UP my driveway Ford programed the ICE/HV side to charge about another 10% back INTO the HV battery. This wonky programing causes a vicious cycle on mine where I will have the ICE running almost ALL the time due to the HV battery being full. If Ford simply had a "mode" where you could change this (say Eco mode) and it didn't charge SO much going up hills this would not happen. yes, eco mode does it. It also does this on other hills. On one part if I get up some good speed (instead of letting it put it back in the HV battery) and crest the next hill at around 55 using EV only then I have a long multi mile down grade and it'll stay in EV/regen almost the entire way down. Then on this 20 miles trip I'll get over 50 MPG! But if I set cruise at 55 (speed limit) the ICE motor is either always on to provide power, or, ICE compression braking and my MPG's is right at 40MPG on the same trip. I've posted many times (had another account that they shadowed banned on here) about this and been roasted to no end (some even admitting they work for Ford!!!). Is 40ish MPG's "good"? its ok. I believe with some common sense programing most would see 50's +. This crap programing is also why the brakes act wonky AF sometimes. X Y and Z met up in programing at the brakes didn't cope well. This alone should have had a safety recall imo.

Lets combine Ford and ordering/building these trucks. My opinion is Ford is ran by a bunch of college educated PR idiots and it flows down hill...hence these issues, ordering, building, built. Everything from water pouring in the rear doors, felt on the outside (dirt magnet), to supply/order/built issues, is from piss poor management. Someone somewhere in testing had to write down "water poors in rear when doors are opened" and the rest, but someone in Ford said "let them eat cake".

Having said that when my truck comes in (ordered) and someone wants a MY2023 Hybrid for MSRP (or right at it) that will be brand new (knowing all those issues) let me know. Why? It is a cheap car (pricewise) and gets (relative) decent MPG's and has a decent warranty (hybrid side) and you can buy extended warranty for a decent price.

I just finally said (in my head) that I can do without the "truck" part and moved on.

It also doesn't help that Ford constantly bashes Tesla in social media. Tesla builds the best EV, no question about it. Ford built the lightning 10+ years in and it has inherent design flaws built in.

It also doesn't help that when I started this journey I tried to put in for the Ford Military Rebate. I spend a evening going thru that process (and it ended up with my bank cancelling my card thinking someone had hacked my account). I'm 100% disabled/retired combat Veteran. Ford said "no" to me getting $500 back? Really? And yes they also bash Veteran's via social media when they promote post by Vindman.

Does it all matter? It shows they care more about perception than reality. Oh, and lots not forget "no more allocations" but they really did stick to allocations lie... Or how they build fresh MY2023 orders in front of MY2022 orders and lied about why.

yep, Ford said "let them eat cake". Built a half baked truck, put some slick icing on it, and shoved it forward.

I now know why they didn't think they would sell 100,000 units a year.

Didn't even put a inner fender on it..really?

the plastic below the doors was full of crap when I removed mine after like less than 200 miles in the summer... Imagine it in a salty NE winter..ouch!

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